1000-Year Period

[fstamp]

Do we reign with Christ for a thousand years on this earth or in heaven? 

Please Help!

Thanks, Fstamp...

[gregoryfl]

To those who have eyes to see, the answer is both, not either or.

[70sevens]

If we are saved,
we will reign with Christ for a thousand years on this earth,
before we physically die.

Do not be intrigued by something that is said to be given to you afterlife.
What are you going to do, if that is different from what you have thought it would be?
No one will compensate you, but you have to face it.

[Mat 7:22-23]
22/ Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'
23/ Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

[sparrow]

If we are saved,
we will reign with Christ for a thousand years on this earth,
before we physically die.

Do not be intrigued by something that is said to be given to you afterlife.
What are you going to do, if that is different from what you have thought it would be?
No one will compensate you, but you have to face it.

[Mat 7:22-23]
22/ Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'
23/ Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

What will you be doing during that millenial reign?

[70sevens]

What will you be doing during that millenial reign?

What am I supposed to do?

[sparrow]

What will you be doing during that millenial reign?

What am I supposed to do?

No, I'm asking you....
You say "if we are saved, we will reign with Christ for a thousand years on this life.."

So, from your perspective, what are those who will be reigning, be doing?

[gregoryfl]

We exist in two realms, the physical and the spiritual, earthly and heavenly, temporary and permanent.

As ones who sit in heavenly places with Christ, we indeed rule. However, on earth we are to reign as well. Paul brings this out in a couple of places:

Rom 5:17 For if by the trespass of the one, death reigned through the one; so much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one, Jesus Christ.

1Co 4:8 You are already filled. You have already become rich. You have come to reign without us. Yes, and I wish that you did reign, that we also might reign with you.

Unfortunately we hear very little about the fact that during our time here on earth, we indeed were made to reign, just as we do in heaven with Christ. He too exists in the same two realms, in heaven as he is, and on earth in us, his body. Thus, as he rules and has authority, so do we.

What do we do? What he is working in us to do. He grants us to witness to the reality that we in fact do reign. It is our own wrong perceptions that deceives us into thinking we do not. As Paul also wrote: "As you have received the Lord Jesus, so walk in him." This is not about what you do, but about what he has done in you, to recognize it and thus witness it in your life. What we recognize is that we are rooted in him, built up and firm in the faith. Do not let appearances deceive you my brother.

Ron

[sparrow]

We exist in two realms, the physical and the spiritual, earthly and heavenly, temporary and permanent.

As ones who sit in heavenly places with Christ, we indeed rule. However, on earth we are to reign as well. Paul brings this out in a couple of places:

Rom 5:17 For if by the trespass of the one, death reigned through the one; so much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one, Jesus Christ.

1Co 4:8 You are already filled. You have already become rich. You have come to reign without us. Yes, and I wish that you did reign, that we also might reign with you.

Unfortunately we hear very little about the fact that during our time here on earth, we indeed were made to reign, just as we do in heaven with Christ. He too exists in the same two realms, in heaven as he is, and on earth in us, his body. Thus, as he rules and has authority, so do we.

What do we do? What he is working in us to do. He grants us to witness to the reality that we in fact do reign. It is our own wrong perceptions that deceives us into thinking we do not. As Paul also wrote: "As you have received the Lord Jesus, so walk in him." This is not about what you do, but about what he has done in you, to recognize it and thus witness it in your life. What we recognize is that we are rooted in him, built up and firm in the faith. Do not let appearances deceive you my brother.
Ron

Are you directing this to me... or seventy7's or to just anyone in general??

:laughing7:

I was just trying to figure out what seventy7's idea of "reigning" was...
What it actually meant.
I like to read other's views on this.
that's all.

[gregoryfl]

It was mainly aimed the question of what we are to do during that reign.  I felt that for any brother to focus solely on another life to come would be to miss the reigning that I see for us now on this earth. So directed at no one in particular. :bigGrin:

[70sevens]

What will you be doing during that millenial reign?

What am I supposed to do?

No, I'm asking you....
You say "if we are saved, we will reign with Christ for a thousand years on this life.."

So, from your perspective, what are those who will be reigning, be doing?

I will be doing what I am doing now,
i.e. sitting on twelve thrones and judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
(Hope you understand.)

However, I guess your question is more relevant to yourself.
Because millenial reign of this life is open to everyone
whilst millenal reign afterlife is veiled to everyone.
So your question is more applicabe to yourself  than me.
Anyway, I have answered your question,
would please answer me now.
I am so curious.


gregoryfl :

The issue here is whether the millenial reign comes in this "life" or 
"afterlife (after physical death).

Regarding your explanation of "the physical and the spiritual,
earthly and heavenly, temporary and permanent",
if we become spiritual in this life,
then the physical will be swallowed up by the spiritual and all become spritual,
heavenly and permanent to us.

[sparrow]

Ok, I'm slightly confused. Maybe I should just back away from this conversation before I become totally perplexed.
:laughing7:

Peace ya'll..
carry on.  :HeartThrob:


sparrow

[70sevens]

Ok, I'm slightly confused. Maybe I should just back away from this conversation before I become totally perplexed.
:laughing7:

Peace ya'll..
carry on.  :HeartThrob:

sparrow

Yes,
Away from Jesus, otherwise you will be totally perplexed.

[John 6:60]
Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said,
This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

God bless.

[jabcat]

Hi 70.  Clarifying...she'll be perplexed unless she steps away from Jesus?  I see the context of John 6:60 as directly in response to this; "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him".  They didn't understand the symbolic/spiritual aspect of the saying.  Could you clarify please?  Now I'm a little perplexed  :laughing7:.  Thanks  :thumbsup:, God's blessing.  James.

[70sevens]

Hi jabcat,

Yes, the disciples did not understand what Jesus was saying,
"He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him."
They did not understand symbolic/spiritual aspects of the above saying,
and so perplexed.

Likewise, we are perplexed when we hear the living words of Jesus regarding
"millennial reign in this life", "sitting on twelve thrones and judging
the twelve tribes of Israel", etc, as now,
as we do not understand symbolic/spiritual aspects of that saying.

Disciples did not understand Jesus, and perplexed and left Him.
In the same way, we do not understand Jesus,
and become perplexed and leave Him.
What is the difference?

I wanted to say the truth to all that if we meet Jesus we will be totally perplexed.
That is the point.

God bless.

[Nathan]

I do love subjects such as these . . .the thousand year reign . . . I think Gregory was hitting on all pistons with his responses.  I also think the "thousand year" issue is not about a measured amount of time as much as it's about what everything else in Scripture is about . . .it's about the person of Jesus.

The book of Revelation for me is built upon the foundation already established by God through Moses.  All the articles of the tabernacle are directly related to the finished works, to the personality, to the purpose and nature of Christ.  When I take the thousand year reign and try to fit it into an actual time frame, I'm not really letting Scripture interpret itself, I'm interpreting it with my own reasoning instead.

But when you let Scripture interpret itself, then the answers become visible rather than imaginative.  It's kind of like a seed . . .when you bury it, it's hidden until the rains come . . .and once they come, there's no digging, there's only revealing.  The framework of this unveiling started with the tabernacle where there were measurments done there as well.  And there are a couple prophets that God instructed to "measure" this same temple.  And John was instructed this as well . ..but he was also told "not" to measure the outer court . .the outer court is not a measured off piece of realestate, but it's a dimension . .and it's a people.  Depending on which perspective you choose to see it from.

But the thousand years . . .it comes from the dimensions of the innermost place of the tabernacle . . .it's dimensions were 10x10x10.  There were 10 plagues .  .these 10 plagues systematically removed the Egyptian strongholds that finally freed Israel from their slavery .  . .Egypt is a type of sin. 

Then in place of the plagues, commands were given . . .this is much like the Old Covenant being replaced by the New . . .but that happened at the cross.  I probably shouldn't use that analogy as it could confuse you.  Perhaps we could say the law replaced the slavery to sin temporarily until the time came for true freedom to manifest. 

The number multiplied times itself in threes speaks of divine purpose and completion.  The Holy of Holies is a picture of that completion . . .where all things are at rest.  Thus the reference to reigning "with" Christ who is "seated" on the throne.  Ephesians says we are also seated with him . . .we're not "going" to be, but we already "are".  So the thousand year reign for me is speaking of those who've passed through the milk of relationship, and outer court living for God . . .and have also passed through the laboring of ministries and religions all in the name of God . . .and have hound themselves worshiping at the altar of incense, the threshold that causes the worshiper to pass through the veil and into the glory and residence of God . . .all of this is what happens "within" us in our relationship with the Father.

As to the comment of being perplexed when the Son is revealed . . .for me, the perplexity is only confusing to the mind of man . . .but we are not souls, we are spirits . . .we are spirits that have souls that live in bodies . .but we "are" spirits.  And that is also who the Father and Son are as well . .they are Spirit . .so that when Jesus manifests himself to us . . .we are not perplexed, but we are "enabled" to comprehend.  Not through teachings, but through revelation by way of relationship.

The disciples didn't understand because they were still trying to fit spiritual truth into their carnal thinking and all it did was confuse them . . . and rather than step out and accept Truth in faith, they turned away from Truth and turned back to their own imaginations of what they perceived God to be.

It's as Peter replied to Jesus . . ."where else is there to go?"  They went in faith even though they could not logically comprehend.

[70sevens]

What do we do? What he is working in us to do. He grants us to witness to the reality that we in fact do reign. It is our own wrong perceptions that deceives us into thinking we do not. As Paul also wrote: "As you have received the Lord Jesus, so walk in him." This is not about what you do, but about what he has done in you, to recognize it and thus witness it in your life. What we recognize is that we are rooted in him, built up and firm in the faith. Do not let appearances deceive you my brother.

Ron

Brother Nathan,


1.  Current Millennial Reign

I understand basically your views on the subject are not much different from that of gregoryfl above.

I sense that the above statement is not coming from experience, but knowledge.
Why I say this is that :
He emphasizes "we should walk in Him".
This is another type of the law.
So many years believers were said to act as such, but no can do.

Why? Because the believers did not receive the Lord Jesus at the first place.
They think they received Jesus, but in reality they did not.
That's why, they could not walk in Him despite of repetitive advices to do so.

Millennial reign comes to us automatically if we receive the Lord Jesus.
You don't have to make legalistic statement like
"Oh, you have millennial reign already, practice it."

The deceived point is not that we forget we already have millennial reign,
but our understanding that we already have received the Lord Jesus,
without receiving Him in reality.

Grapevine brings forth grape fruit.
If no fruit, check the Vine itself. It must be brier.
Do not say to brier, if you keep on trying, you will produce grape. 

[Luke 6:43-44]
43 "No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit.
44 Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes,
or grapes from briers.


2. Being perplexed at Jesus

Jesus studied through Bible/sermons will be totally different from real Jesus to meet.
So when we are blessed to meet Jesus, we all will be perplexed at Him.
Jesus is "a person" to meet, not to be studied.
Have you met this person, Jesus?


3.  Peter vs Disciples left

You have given a wonderful analysis.
Then, are you sure that you are represented by Peter, not by the disciples left?
Are you a person who is saying now to Jesus "where else is there to go?"

God bless.

[Nathan]

Not really sure who you're addressing there in your post sevens . . .you mention my name, but the quote you posted was not mine.  And I'm not sure what it is in the post that you perceive to be knowledge over experience.

But I do agree that there is an image of God the church has projected that may not be the true nature of God at all.  And when people are "born again" into a church of religion, what is it they're being born into?  Often times I wonder if they are not going from the bondage of sin into the bondage of religion . . .

It's all due process . . .many must first go through the various bondages before coming fully into the freedom of life.  If they come in ignorance of the consequences of the freedom, then the freedom itself could become a stumbling block.  Only the Spirit can discern where the maturity level is in the individuals. 

But again, when the "day" has arrived . .the Sabbath day . . .the 7th from the garden of creation . . . the seven generation from Adam was Enoch . . a picture of resurrection . . .Jesus "is" the Sabbath . . .he is the 3rd day . . .this century . . .literally, is the 3rd day from Christ's manifestation of flesh . . .I think that changes the "maturity" rule . . .it's all in preparation for the whole earth coming into the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.

[sheila]

well, the way I see it is like this....

  as far as we heed and do Christ's commands in this life..

  we rule over our own sinful flesh/earth..when we put to death

  the sin in our flesh..and bring everythought unto subjection to

   Christ...we are ruling with Him or seated in Heavenly places

  with Him in this manner when we follow the leading of the

  Holy spirit.


   When we leave this earthly body and are resurrected and are

like the angels..we will be assigned to someone in this earth

that is due to inherit eternal life/salvation[as ministering angels]

  In this way we reign also over the powers of darkness.


   The High Preist as His portion received the breast portion..

also known as the WAVE BREAST OFFERING. You will note

that Christ is girded about the paps...this signifies how He is

  girded[a mere woman shall encompass a man/a new thing]

   Jerusalem Above is just that..she nurtures and feeds

  spiritually the children of God.SOS 5;2 Matt 3;16


  a WAVE-move to and fro/flutter  Breast..is a perfect

  symbology of the Holy spirit as a dove. Issaih 60;8


  WHO ARE THESE? THAT FLY ALONG LIKE CLOUDS...

  LIKE DOVE'S TO THEIR NEST?

  If you are born from ABOVE...these Holy spirits minister unto

  you[think of Jesus and how angels ministered unto Him and

the Holy spirit coming down in bodily form as a dove]


   Fly along like clouds Mt 26;64...but I say to all of you,in the

future you will see the Son of man sitting  at the right hand of

the Mighty one and COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN


  In SOS ..but my dove,my perfect one is unique..the only

daughter of her Mother...Christ bride is Jerusalem Aboves

daughter Psalms 68;11-13 The Lord announced the WORD and

great was the COMPANY of those who proclaimed it;Kings and

armies flee in haste; in the camps men divide the plunder,


  EVEN WHILE YOU SLEEP AMONG THE CAMPFIRES[REV.20;9]

THE WINGS OF MY DOVE ARE SHEATHED WITH SILVER


SOS 6;10 wHO IS SHE THAT LOOKETH FORTH AS THE

MORNING,FAIR AS THE MOON CLEAR AS THE SUN

and terrible as an army with banners.....WHAT WILL YOU SEE

IN THE sHULAMITE? aS IT WERE THE COMPANY OF two armies


  rEV 19;14...AND THE ARMIES WHICH ARE IN HEAVEN

FOLLOWED hIM UPON WHITE HORSES[sOS1;9 i LIKEN YOU

MY DARLING,TO A MARE,] rEV 19;11 aND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS

DOTH hE jUdGE AND MAKE WAR.

  wITH THAT UNION AND MARRIAGE..THE FAlSE PROPHET AND

BEAST ARE DESTROYED by their spiritual warfare,this

concurrently with the fall of babylon. tHIS RESULTS IN THE

BINDING OF satan TO KEEP HIM FROM MISLEADING


   rEV 22;16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you

  THESE THINGS IN THE CHURCHES.

  I AM THE ROOT AND THE OFFSPRING OF DAVID,

  AND THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR

  Rev 2;26-and he that overcometh and keepeth my works unto

the end,to him I will give power over the nations.And he shall

rule them with a rod of iron....and I WILL GIVE HIM THE

MORNING STAR.

  2Peter 1;19 and we have the word of the prophets MADE MORE

CERTAIN and you will do well to pay attention to it,as to a light

shining in a dark place,until the DAY DAWNS AND A MORNING

STAR ARISES IN YOUR HEARTS.


  SOS 6;10  WHO IS THIS THAT APPEARS LIKE THE DAWN,

  FAIR AS THE MOON,BRIGHT AS THE SUN,

MAJESTIC AS THE STARS IN PROCESSION?


  SOS 6;4 You are beautiful my darling as Tirzah, lovely

as Jerusalem, MAJESTIC AS WITH TROOPS WITH BANNERS

   

   

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Beautiful, Sheila and Amen!

I can only add He showed me the TWO (witness) companies = redeemed souls/females, ie. of a man and his wife (two again) = the woman (two redeemed souls joined in Him as one "flesh") who shall encompass a man (Christ as Spirit man).

They form the robe (garment made of HIS righteousness) of Melchisedek, and is the true meaning of when TWO or more are gathered in My name/nature, there I AM in the midst of THEM.

These are they (the two) who have washed their robes (souls) in the blood of the Lamb. This is the secret of why He sent the disciples out in two's, and why the true church is built upon the apostle and prophet (TWO). They are the level and the plumb line, the Word (in union) with the Spirit = the Son. Blessings....

[sheila]

 Thank you,Card, for adding to that.

   I have been praying for understanding of the 4 living

  creatures, there are 4 'horns' on the altar of God...

   I have a few ideas but nothing concrete...also I beleive it has

to do with th finishing of His creation[creatures]

   Ezekiel spoke of them..Rev declares them

  Has He given you any light on this?

                    Thanks,Sheila

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: He gave me on the four horns of the altar, but nothing on the four living creatures. Maybe Nate has something on it? I haven't had time yet to read his stuff on Revelation so I don't know.

The four horns: what He gave me pertains to the 4 rivers (flow) in Genesis. Horns speak of power, the "power" of the living soul, which has 4 parts, ie. mind, will, emotions and desires.

These 4 parts of us are tied down with cords of love that cannot be broken on the 4 horns of the altar. These 4 "rivers" are made one again after the complete processing of the Word and the Spirit in us, ie. ONE IN CHRIST. This is how the redeemed from every tribe, tongue, ect. ends up UNDER the altar, after being tied down and made a living sacrifice, a sweet smelling savor unto the Lord.

His "horn" is His Spirit, thus a double-minded man (both carnal mind and mind of Christ) is yet unstable in all of his ways. That's all I got on this; hope it helps. Blessings...

[Nathan]

From what I've gathered, the four living creatures are connected to the cherubim and seraphim, they are spiritual order of the living beings.  Cherubim had the four faces . . .an ox that speaks to me of the most powerful beast pertaining to field labor/domestication  the Lion speaks of the most powerful of the wild kingdom, the eagle is the most predominant of the fowl of the air and the face of man . .face = identity . . man being the highest of all created beasts. 

This for me is a picture of covenantal beasts . . .the seraphim, cherubim and living creatures are all representative of other creatures.  What comes out of them, comes out of what they represent, and what goes in to them, goes into what they represent.  The living creatures seem to lead the rest of creation into the worship of the Lamb.  As they go, so goes the creation they represent.

Not sure if that helps much.

[Tony N]

Why should we of the nations reign with Christ on the earth during the 1000 year reign when "our realm is inherrent in the heavens"

Phi 3:20 "For our realm is inherent in the heavens, out of which we are awaiting a Saviour also, the Lord, Jesus Christ,"

And we will have celestial bodies, not bodies fitted to remain on the earth.

We will actually be closer to Christ in spirit than the 12 will be in flesh on the earth.

[Nathan]

Why should we of the nations reign with Christ on the earth during the 1000 year reign when "our realm is inherrent in the heavens"

Phi 3:20 "For our realm is inherent in the heavens, out of which we are awaiting a Saviour also, the Lord, Jesus Christ,"

And we will have celestial bodies, not bodies fitted to remain on the earth.

We will actually be closer to Christ in spirit than the 12 will be in flesh on the earth.

For me bro, the earth is going to experience the same transformation when all is said and done . . .it's still going to be earth . . .but it's going to be a "new" earth in the fact that once the finality of all things comes to rest, ALL order is going to be restored as it was before the fall took place . . .the garden of Eden was not a natural place, but a spiritual one . . .when Adam chose knowledge over life, he was removed from the realm of the spirit, that's when he died, he was separated from the domain of God and the natural earth became dominant over the spiritual garden . . .  Even the earth groans for the order to be reestablished in all things.

[willieH]

willieH: Hi...  :laughing7: (at my mostly inadaquate, self)

EXPLANATION of the "1000 YEARS" mentioned in REVELATION 20

Here's hoping I can communicate what I see (such is hard to put into words)...  :pointlaugh:  I rest assured, that GOD shall give eyes and ears to those appointed this vision...   :cloud9:

There is a lot of detail, so skip to the "SUMMARY" at the end, if it is too much forya!



CHRONOLOGY indicates at the very least, a beginning... from which subsequent things follow, "chronologically"...

There is NO "CHRONOLOGY" in the REVEALING of CHRIST... For He is an ETERNAL entity... so any REVELATION of Him, does not involve attachment TO HIM ...of "CHRONOLOGY"...

Also, we must USE Scripture to indentify the elements within this SYMBOLIC writing...  With those things in mind... here goes! ------->

Rev 20:1  And I saw an angel come down from Heaven [CHRIST] having the KEY of the bottomless pit [hole in ground=grave] and a great CHAIN in His Hand...

This verse is partially explained in:

Rev 1:18 = KEYS -- to Hell [grave] and Death are held by CHRIST...
John 3:13 = CHRIST -- CAME DOWN, from Heaven...

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Rev 20:2  And He laid hold of that old Serpent which IS the Devil and satan, and bound him a THOUSAND YEARS

This verse is partially explained in:

Gen 3:1 = SERPENT -- Adversity to the COMMAND of GOD... subtlely seducing men... by means of the "will" of the FLESH...
Heb 4:15 = CHRIST -- "LAID HOLD" of the FLESH which adversely tempted Him ...(AS it does with us) -- James 1:14 -- but -- OVERCOMING it and SINNING NOT.

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Rev 20:3  and cast him into the bottomless pit [in CHRIST is found NO SIN - ever!] and shut him up and set a seal upon him that he should DECIEVE the nations no more [that are IN CHRIST] till the 1000 years be fulfilled [ALL the CHOSEN are entered IN CHRIST] and after that he must be loosed a little season [continuing his deception of the dead OUTSIDE CHRIST]

Remember (if you will), when words such as "before" or "after" are spoken in this REVELATION it is NOT a "CHRONOLOGICAL" position... it means OUTSIDE or peripheral to the perspective of the ETERNAL...

CASTING the "serpent" (adversity) and binding it in those who are IN CHRIST during their lifetimes [1000 years=Day] 

We live our lives in "NOW", which is the "DAY" of GOD, in which ALL GENERATIONS appear -- Gen 2:4

When it comes down to it, ...TIME has beginning and ending points, but... "NOW" never ENDS, nor does it ever BEGIN... this verse is partially explained in:

2 Cor 6:2 --  NOW is the TIME ACCEPTED (1000yrs) NOW is the DAY of SALVATION (DAY of GOD)

John 12:31 -- NOW is the JUDGMENT of THIS WORLD (all lives are lived NOW - before the eyes of YHVH) -- NOW shall the prince of THIS WORLD be cast out (ADVERSE will of the flesh of men)

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Rev 20:4  And I saw thrones and they that sat upon them and judgment was given unto them; and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of JESUS, and for the WORD of GOD and which had NOT WORSHIPPED [submitted to] the BEAST [flesh] neither his image [proposal of sin] neither had recieved his mark upon their foreheads [mind] or in their hands [actions] and they LIVED and REIGNED [over the flesh] ...WITH... CHRIST, ...for a 1000 YEARS [during their lives within the DAY of GOD]

This verse is partially explained in:

2 Peter 3:9  beloved, ...BE NOT IGNORANT of THIS ONE THING [this IS the pivotal verse which explains the whole thing - which is why Peter so insists here] that ONE DAY is ....WITH... the Lord ...AS... a THOUSAND YEARS, and a THOUSAND YEARS, ...AS... a DAY

Rom 12:1-2 -- Those who submit to CHRIST are entered into Him and are ...WITH Him... they, as was the Savior, are LIVING SACRFICES, not "worshipping" the beast (flesh) or submitting to his image (temptation), rather... are BEHEADED (self "will" removed and replaced with the MIND of CHRIST -- the WORD)

CHRIST and their submitted hearts RULING over the FLESH of SIN... WITH Him = 1000 years which IS AS a DAY...

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Rev 20:5  But the REST of the DEAD [which implies that those in the previous verses were DEAD also] ...LIVED... not AGAIN... [which implies that all spiritually were once alive] until the 1000 YEARS were FINISHED [in each of the CHOSEN, fulfilled in each one by one]. This is the FIRST RESURRECTION...

This verse is partially explained in:

Matt 8:22  CHRIST noted LIVING men as DEAD... and conversion of a SINNER to be in the FIRST resurrection, implies that those in the "first resurrection" were also at one time DEAD while "alive"... i.e -- the "rest" of the Dead

Matt 22:14  This is the ELECT... ordained and CHOSEN by GOD to be LIGHT amongst the Darkness... 1st to be "resurrected" and to become "alive" IN CHRIST... during the "1000 years" which is the DAY of GOD...

NONE of those outside CHRIST will LIVE AGAIN in this way (in CHRIST), until ALL of the CHOSEN to be IN CHRIST, FIRST, ...have experienced the FIRST resurrection... (the REVEALING of the LIFE of CHRIST within)...

:heat: ...WHEW!  :pointlaugh:

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SUMMARY:

FIRST -- 1000 years in Revelation 20 is symbolic -- QUESTION: so is it a "1000 YEAR period" which is LINEAR or LITERAL... as in -- 1000 years of TIME according to sunrise/sunset?  ANSWER:  NO!  It is the LIFE that YOU LIVE in the FLESH, in the DAY of GOD.

SECOND -- QUESTION: Is this a period? ANSWER:  YES! ...the period in which you LIVE... (a DAY WITH GOD [the WORD],  is as a 1000 years and a 1000 years as a -- DAY)...  The "1000 years" is ruling and REIGNING (overcoming) ...WITH... CHRIST... (over the flesh - which is exactly what HE DID, while "in" the flesh)

THIRD -- QUESTION:  What "day" is spoken of?  ANSWER:  The DAY of GOD, in which ALL GENERATIONS are found -- Gen 2:4

FOURTH -- QUESTION:  Who would CHRIST and YOU (with Him) be "ruling and reigning" over?  ANSWER: the FLESH you are living in... defeating WITH HIM, the EVIL that the FLESH desires to indulge itself in.

Let him that hath ears hear...

...willieH  :cloud9: