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Started by Andromeda_Organa, March 30, 2009, 12:54:13 AM

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Andromeda_Organa

I'm wondering about witnessing to Muslims.  :sigh: Today I had a Muslim friend tell me that Jesus won't bear my sins or be my Saviour, and I had a hard time explaining the truth to her :thumbdown: and was even swayed by her. My faith obviously isn't that strong. How can I strengthen it and witness to them better?

Paul Hazelwood

Decide what you actually believe first.


martincisneros


martincisneros

Seems like you're not spending a few minutes in the New Testament everyday for important Scriptures to come to mind when you're dealing with those kinds of situations.  Nothing to feel bad about.  Just a hint about where to find your answers for people like that, and how to become a stronger believer in Christ.  Ephesians, Colossians, and 1John are great places to start with really feeding your heart.

sparrow

Quote from: Paul Hazelwood on March 30, 2009, 01:24:55 AM
Decide what you actually believe first.




Exactly. Someone who doesn't feel strongly about what they believe in, shouldn't go trying to preach it to others. Just makes no sense. Why do you want to sway someone else into believing what you believe if you're not even sure you believe it in the first place?  :dontknow:




MacPherson

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Quote from: Andromeda_Organa on March 30, 2009, 12:54:13 AM
I'm wondering about witnessing to Muslims.  :sigh: Today I had a Muslim friend tell me that Jesus won't bear my sins or be my Saviour, and I had a hard time explaining the truth to her :thumbdown: and was even swayed by her. My faith obviously isn't that strong. How can I strengthen it and witness to them better?

This might sound a little harsh. But unless you have a relationship with Jesus Christ, you have NOTHING and your faith is useless.
It's all about you and Christ. Him and Him alone. I heard Islam does not offer a personal relationship. It offers obedience and rules. I haven't checked it out for myself, but I've heard the word "love" does not appear a single time in the Quran. These days anytime I discuss religion with someone and they tell me it's this and that, entails so forth and so on. I'll ask them what sort of a relationship with the Lord it offers. Appearently here isn't one. Ever. It's either following some path to enlightenment, or following a system of rules. No relationship there whatsoever.
Now, which seems like the more logical approach to God, one that provides and encourages a relationship so close that you call God "Daddy"? Or one that offers no relationship whatsoever?
I'd also go to the source when it comes to Islam. Because Islam hangs on one man. Find out who Mohammed is, objectively. With Islam you have to be able to have complete and utter faith in this one man, or it all falls apart. Same goes with Mormonism and Joseph Smith. Seventh Day Adventist and Ellen G. White etc.
Unlike the Quran, the Bible does not rely on a single solitary "prophet" author.
Here's some interesting info on Allah, whom I have heard Mohammed had to turn to instead of Jehovah, because Israel completely rejected the Quran. http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Speaking from personal experience here, unless they're a new convert, there is a generational principality there to deal with, and if you're not a STRONG believer and intercessor, best to wish them godspeed and go on your way. Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

sheila

2 Esdra 15;28-35

  what a terrifying sight,appearing from the east.The nations

  of the dragons of Arabia shall come out with many chariots,

  and from the day that they set out,their hissing shall spread

over the earth,so that all who hear them will fear and tremble

.......v35 they shall clash against one another and shall pour out

a heavey tempest on the earth,and their own tempest; and

there shall be blood from the sword as high as a horses belly

and a man's thigh and a camel's hock.

   ch 16;40 Hear my words,O'my people,prepare for battle,

and in the midst of the calamities be like strangers on the earth.

Let the one who sells be like one who will flee,let the one who

buys be like the one who will lose............

   vs 74 Listen my elect ones,says the Lord; the days of

tribulation are at hand,but I will deliver you from them.

Do not fear or doubt for God is your guide......



  Because of these above scriptures in Esdras I wonder and

highly suspect we are on the brink of great tribulation times.

realy think it probable that

jabcat

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Heard this AM that the number of muslims and Christians in the world is 1:1, with the context being why would Obama want a war, a blood bath...maybe it wouldn't be us that wanted the war, if it were to occur....I tend to agree with Card on the witnessing part; if led, declare Jesus as Savior, and unless further led, "keep on walking"... :Sparkletooth:

You got me curious..didn't know much/had forgotten what Edras was.  Found this info, thought it interesting, what does anyone think about this in relation to current times?  Can't vouch for its accuracy, as I really know very little about the book, other than this info, and that Josephus and Origen quoted it  :dontknow:


"The results.....were the restoration of the Temple and of the Jewish cult and community; and this is, indeed, the leading thought of the entire work. The events that led to the destruction of the Temple are therefore given as an introduction, and after the restoration the doings of Ezra, of vital importance in the development of Judaism, are related. There are several discrepancies to be noted in the different parts of the book, first of all in the central episode.

the book was probably compiled in the last century before, or the first century of, the common era. It has no historical value, because it bears every mark of a true midrash, in which the facts are warped to suit the purpose of the writer. The extracts from other Old Testament writings, however, are valuable as witnesses of an old Greek translation of the Hebrew text, made probably before the Septuagint

The author recognizes God's love for all His creatures (viii. 47), in spite of the fact that greater is the number of those lost than of those that are saved (ix. 15), but for him the end must be unrelenting justice and no mercy nor any intercession of saints; truth and righteousness alone must prevail

In regard to the return of the Lost Ten Tribes, also, the author shares the view of Eliezer, in opposition to Akiba, that they will take part in the Messianic redemption, and the very name for the land of the exile of the Ten Tribes used by him, but obviously misunderstood by the translator, rests on the same Biblical words referred to by the two tannaim-"ereẓ aḥeret" (another land; Deut. xxix. 27; II Esd. xiii. 45, comp. 40; Sanh. x. 3; see Arzareth). The length of the Messianic time is stated to be 400 years"   mb-soft.com/believe/txs/esdras/htm
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

IceDash

Quote from: jabcat on April 08, 2009, 02:16:16 AM
Heard this AM that the relationship between muslims and Christians is 1:1, with the context being why would Obama want a war, a blood bath...maybe it wouldn't be us that wanted the war, if it were to occur....

You got me curious..didn't know much/had forgotten what Edras was.  Found this info, thought it interesting, what does anyone think about this in relation to current times?  Can't vouch for its accuracy, as I really know very little about the book, other than this info, and that Josephus and Origen quoted it  :dontknow:


"The results.....were the restoration of the Temple and of the Jewish cult and community; and this is, indeed, the leading thought of the entire work. The events that led to the destruction of the Temple are therefore given as an introduction, and after the restoration the doings of Ezra, of vital importance in the development of Judaism, are related. There are several discrepancies to be noted in the different parts of the book, first of all in the central episode.

the book was probably compiled in the last century before, or the first century of, the common era. It has no historical value, because it bears every mark of a true midrash, in which the facts are warped to suit the purpose of the writer. The extracts from other Old Testament writings, however, are valuable as witnesses of an old Greek translation of the Hebrew text, made probably before the Septuagint

The author recognizes God's love for all His creatures (viii. 47), in spite of the fact that greater is the number of those lost than of those that are saved (ix. 15), but for him the end must be unrelenting justice and no mercy nor any intercession of saints; truth and righteousness alone must prevail

In regard to the return of the Lost Ten Tribes, also, the author shares the view of Eliezer, in opposition to Akiba, that they will take part in the Messianic redemption, and the very name for the land of the exile of the Ten Tribes used by him, but obviously misunderstood by the translator, rests on the same Biblical words referred to by the two tannaim-"ereẓ aḥeret" (another land; Deut. xxix. 27; II Esd. xiii. 45, comp. 40; Sanh. x. 3; see Arzareth). The length of the Messianic time is stated to be 400 years"   mb-soft.com/believe/txs/esdras/htm

Huh...when did Obama want war?

jabcat

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they were saying he didn't want war, especially since it would be such a blood bath anyway...not that he does, but even if he did, what a mess it would be...that's also what I said, maybe it wouldn't be US that wanted the war...a bit of a scary thought that if "they" wanted it...there's a bunch of 'em, like the Chinese.

If the info from Esdras is true/accurate, even if applied to today, then there's that part again about God's protection in the last part of the passage Sheila quoted :thumbsup:
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2