I have a bible that my mother got for me that has my name engraved on it and is a study bible. I love how beautiful it is, but I'm not a fan of reading it because of the translation. I would like a translation that is as close to the original as possible while still being easy to read. I'm not a fan of the translations that use the words hell and eternal punishment.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a translation that I could find a nice bible in? That way I can use the one my mom bought me and refer between the two for clarification? Thanks!
I like Young's Modern Literal (NT, Psalms, Proverbs) and the standard Young's Literal is good, although it does contain more antiquated language similar to KJV (no hell though).
I use youngs and also there are a couple of Greek interlinears on the net(I use Bible Gateway, it has everything a serious student of the scriptures would need).
The best thing to do is use these sites for a while and compare the many Bible versions you can read there.
https://www.biblegateway.com/
https://biblehub.com/revelation/1-1.htm
That said not a single translation is close to the original. Partly that's because of doctrine and the skill of the translators.
If you speak several languages you will notice it's frequently hard to translate between them, even if you are fluent in both. The reason is that language-A has 3 meanings for a word, but language-B has no word with the same 3 meanings. Often that's no big deal because you are after just one meaning.
But not so with the Bible. That's one huge wordplay. Because the meanings of the words used in the verses can often be understood in various ways. Not talking about doctinal means like the word hell***. But that the words really mean something different.
To understand what I mean write down all meanings of 'cool' or 'hot'.
I can assure you that the meanings of those words are different in English that in my native language. While I know all meanings in both languages I would totally fail to translate those very simply words in a way that all the English meanings are preserved.
As an added bonus, here we aren't talking about translating between 2 modern 'same type' languages of two countries with a very similar culture; no be we are talking about languages that are different in every aspect.
***=For many hell means BBQ. But hell originally means 'hidden place' (like the Hebrew sheol) It had that meaning way before Christianity gave it a new meaning.
There are examples from old literature where a young couple secretly kissed in hell. No, they didn't jump into an active volcano to snuggle :friendstu:
I do not know why more people, especially those who believe in UR, don't like the Concordant Literal Version above all others?
I myself do not think it makes much difference when it is His Spirit guiding you.
I came to understand UR through the KJV and the NASB, both used with the concordances for both, and a standard dictionary.
The only thing I can say about myself is, it was a hunger (passion) that was put into me on 12/12/2005, after that day, I spent every waking moment with my nose in studying.
The salvation of ALL was the result.
Blessings
Quote from: jabcat on January 14, 2020, 07:03:12 AM
I like Young's Modern Literal (NT, Psalms, Proverbs) and the standard Young's Literal is good, although it does contain more antiquated language similar to KJV (no hell though).
oh! I didn’t know there was a modern one! :thumbsup: That’s good news!
Quote from: eaglesway on January 14, 2020, 08:28:17 AM
I use youngs and also there are a couple of Greek interlinears on the net(I use Bible Gateway, it has everything a serious student of the scriptures would need).
I didn’t know Bible Gateway has interlinear! ..I go back and forth between it and biblehub, using two tabs..
I also have the bible on here.. but think I’ll look for a better version ..Ihave a print Concordant Literal one but it uses ‘hell’ so it sits in a shelf.. Maybe it’s an older version.
I mostly like the New King James but double check questionable verses using biblehub.. I use my phone for study way more than for making calls. :laughing7:
I find also I can use google search to find a verse by typing “verse and part of the verse”. Biblegateway is great for subject study and lists of verses using a key word or phrase.. This originally was SO helpful with figuring out the original sheol - but back then it was by using the big Strong’s books.. And finding out the different words (mythical) ‘hell’ was translated from.. but finding out Job asked God to hide him there, “all go there” and how there’s no knowledge, thought nor doing there.. Then putting together the mystery of Gehenna city dump where even vile criminal’s bodies were burned - such an affront to the Hebrew! better one gouge out their eye and toss it there than they be enticed into a crime or harming “one of these little ones”..
:Peace2: :girlheart:
I just found a Young’s Literal bible at the app store.. (free) and Mt 25:46 says - rather than mythical ‘hell’ “punishment ageduring” which I think should read “correction ageduring” but still much much better! From “life.church bible” (as search, blue) ..with option to download different versions. Reading from the Good News Version.. going back and forth from versions is easy.. which is good of course as the Young’s to our mind doesn’t read all that smoothly.. biblehub interlinear up on tab is still the best though.. imo :gsmile:
Quote from: jugghead on January 15, 2020, 02:59:36 AM
I myself do not think it makes much difference when it is His Spirit guiding you.
I came to understand UR through the KJV and the NASB, both used with the concordances for both, and a standard dictionary.
The only thing I can say about myself is, it was a hunger (passion) that was put into me on 12/12/2005, after that day, I spent every waking moment with my nose in studying.
The salvation of ALL was the result.
Blessings
Wow! We're almost twins! ..started studying in the 80's never did believe 'hell' though.. but I was not churched, etc.. (God bless 'em though.. especially those doubting 'hell'!)
I actually did believe in hell, after my experience I started going to church and was indoctrinated, but towards the end of my second year, I was being led to the possibility that ALL would be saved, it was from that point, I started studying the Bible under that context .... and there were just to many things that leaned me towards "ALL" and the rest is history. :banana:
Hi Jugghead,
What was that experience like when that passion to read to the bible was put into you. How did it happen? Was it like a born again experience?
Was it strictly scripture that convinced you of UR?
Thanks
Andrew
I can't really say how it happened, I can only speak of the circumstances at the time of the occurrence.
I was listening to a christen radio station and a guest speaker was on the original programming, it was a son speaking of the compassion of his mother. At the very time he was speaking of this compassion, something happened in me that is beyond explaining.
I only knew that something drastic had changed in me and I was given this passion, and that it was also a hunger to seek the truth. From what I was taught by the people I listened to throughout the times I had gone to church, I took it as being born again.
I can see it as being born again, but more so like I was being awakened. Just like waking up in the morning, you haven't realized you were actually asleep until you are awake. My experience was that I fully realized I had been asleep for 46 years because I had been "woken up" from that sleep of 46 years.
I have come to understand through my studies of the written word and through what has been revealed through the word that what happened to me, had to happen to me. What I mean by that is: it had to happen in the way it did for me, in order for me to understand that it had happened.
There has been many more experiences since, but none that had as much impact or influence on my life as that first one.
And what guided me down the path of UR was first understanding that "with God, all things are possible", I had to believe the possibility existed that "all" would be saved.
For the first two years, I was taught that only "some" would be saved, therefore, scripture could back up that belief. But when I started to believe that the possibility existed that "all" could be saved, then scripture backed up that belief. But what convinced me was when I come to realize that "the best wine was saved for last" WAS the understanding of UR.
For me, I learn something new every time I read or even think about scripture. It's as if it has become my daily bread, the bread that with every new thing shown, it reinforces my belief in UR.
Blessings Andrew and thank you for asking
Did you ever choose a second bible, Forest? It sounded like you were hoping for a helpful translation that you might also be able to find in a leather binding. Assuming those parameters, I'd go with an Amplified version. There are translations closer to (possibly) the original but they can be difficult to read and follow, plus they may not be available in the sort of binding you may prefer. Ultimately you will not and cannot find a perfect translation, but you CAN learn a great deal about the nature of God so that you'll instinctively know when you're not understanding something correctly (though you may not come to understand it correctly for many years.)
For deeper study, you can find many versions of scripture online, to be used freely, along with study aides, concordances, original language dictionaries... it's so much easier today than it once was. I can remember sitting at a table so loaded down with books both open and closed that I could barely find room for a cup of tea. :rolllol: Father will lead you into all truth as you become able to receive it, through the ministry of His dear Holy Spirit. Just don't lose your desire for truth nor your patience to seek it long and with the hope of God.