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I have heard from many religions this theory that We can never equal Gods omnipotence.  The belief goes that we never stop learning, or growing. 

Many people are bothered by the thought of living forever, which I think is rooted in the fear that after so long, they will have learned, grown, experienced, and did everything possible to do, eventually leading to boredom. 

I even find much confusion on matters of space and time.  I wonder how Time and Space can begin and end, but at the same time I wonder how they can have never begun, nor never ended.  There has to be boundaries of the Universe, but then whats beyond the boundaries of the Universe?  The Universe had at some had to have a beginning, but what was before the Universe? 

Im wondering if this is biblical. 



Cardinal

"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Universalist Catholic


jabcat

I think she was answering "what was before the universe?".

Or maybe she's saying all the answers to those questions, including all boundaries are in/of God?  If that's not what she's saying, I'll put that out there.  There's a scrip I'll find that addresses it.
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

jabcat

This isn't exactly what I was looking for and may not specifically answer each question, but it seems to be well worth plugging into the equation;


Isaiah 40:26 Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these [things], that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that [he is] strong in power; not one faileth.
28  Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding. 

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I [am] the LORD that maketh all [things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;   

Isaiah 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, [even] my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.   

Isaiah 40:22 [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:   
He stretched forth the heavens as a tent to dwell in.  He calls all of the vast heavenly bodies, which man has yet to discover, by name. 
Isaiah 40:26 Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these [things], that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that [he is] strong in power; not one faileth. 

Psalms 104:1  Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
2 Who coverest [thyself] with light as [with] a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:

http://about-him.com/devotion/dev10-0515.html

The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

Molly

A prayer from Wisdom of Solomon, Chapter 9  [Wisdom=Jesus]



1: O God of my fathers, and Lord of mercy, who hast made all things with thy word,
2: And ordained man through thy wisdom, that he should have dominion over the creatures which thou hast made,
3: And order the world according to equity and righteousness, and execute judgment with an upright heart:
4: Give me wisdom, that sitteth by thy throne; and reject me not from among thy children:
5: For I thy servant and son of thine handmaid am a feeble person, and of a short time, and too young for the understanding of judgment and laws.
6: For though a man be never so perfect among the children of men, yet if thy wisdom be not with him, he shall be nothing regarded.
7: Thou hast chosen me to be a king of thy people, and a judge of thy sons and daughters:
8: Thou hast commanded me to build a temple upon thy holy mount, and an altar in the city wherein thou dwellest, a resemblance of the holy tabernacle, which thou hast prepared from the beginning.
9: And wisdom was with thee: which knoweth thy works, and was present when thou madest the world, and knew what was acceptable in thy sight, and right in thy commandments.
10: O send her out of thy holy heavens, and from the throne of thy glory, that being present she may labour with me, that I may know what is pleasing unto thee.
11: For she knoweth and understandeth all things, and she shall lead me soberly in my doings, and preserve me in her power.
12: So shall my works be acceptable, and then shall I judge thy people righteously, and be worthy to sit in my father's seat.
13: For what man is he that can know the counsel of God? or who can think what the will of the Lord is?
14: For the thoughts of mortal men are miserable, and our devices are but uncertain.
15: For the corruptible body presseth down the soul, and the earthy tabernacle weigheth down the mind that museth upon many things.
16: And hardly do we guess aright at things that are upon earth, and with labour do we find the things that are before us: but the things that are in heaven who hath searched out?
17: And thy counsel who hath known, except thou give wisdom, and send thy Holy Spirit from above?
18: For so the ways of them which lived on the earth were reformed, and men were taught the things that are pleasing unto thee, and were saved through wisdom.