:cloud9: I THINK I posted on here that my daughter was outside at midnight about a month ago and heard a trump sound that went on for several minutes. She said it went right through her it was so real.
Well, I was just talking to a friend of mine who I know hears, that I haven't talked to in quite awhile, and he said he asked God why he was not getting healed, nor anyone he knew getting healed in this time period, and he said God told Him about A MONTH AGO, that we were now in the time of the half hour of silence in heaven. That ties in with the sound of the trump.
Please everyone, press in, the time is short. Those that entered into the promised land were 20 years of age. If you add 20 to the established date (established by a comet in the sky during that time) of His birth, you get 16AD. If you add 2 days (2000 years), you get 2016. I fully believe that everything will be in place by Yom Kippur of Feast of Tabernacles this year. My :2c: as always....Blessings....
50;21 thou sittest and speakest against thy brother,thy slanderest thy own Mother's son.....
THESE THINGS THOU HAST DONE AND I KEPT SILENCE;THOU THOUGHT THAT I WAS ALLTOGATHER SUCH AN ONE AS THYSELF
BUT I WILL REPROVE THEE AND SET THEM IN ORDER BEFORE THINE EYES[each in their own order/the harlots and tax-collectors
[even the despised]enter in before ye.
[God comes to Judge the people] He says the above unto the 'wicked'..which is satan and his demons..they been teaching
doctrines to the churches of condemnation and hellfire to the prodigals
unto man He says..call upon me in the day of trouble...and is silent in His love[no condemnation of men/all men saved.}
Not sure I see the connection between the OP and your post sheila. Maybe you could flesh that out a little?
Couple of questions Card if you'd share further thoughts please;
what (and how) do you see people pressing into - Jesus I'm sure, but to achieve what? (as opposed to trust, looking to Him for grace, mercy, and salvation [trusting His sufficiency]). How does that look different to you (if at all)?
also, what do you see happening after Yom Kipper, after everything's all set up? (Many would say either rapture, or Jesus' physical presence, judging, redeeming, etc.) What's your view of specifics of "next steps".
Thanks :)
try to,John. the silence of God unto humankind..is Him being silent in HIS LOVE[Love keeps no record of the Offense-these/mankind
are the ones He sent His son to save] The silence with rebuke is addressed at satan and the demonic kingdom that have taught
their doctrines in the churches to mislead mankind..doctrines such as eternal death/annhilation of man/ET of mankind.along with
other lies and errors..as well as controlling churches such as all the atrocities in the inquisition and the like..setting religious traps
and snares unto men etc.
Psalms 50 read it all....He comes to judge His people..the 'wicked ones' have taught regarding the covenants of law and grace.....
He has remained silent..the saints[churches] were overcome/trampled under dragons claw]
But now He is coming to set things straight! coming to judge His people! Silent in His love for mankind[love keeps no record
of the offense] silent while satan overtook churches..But now He reproves and sets things straight.
elder son churches that teach condemnation et hellfire to the prodigals[own Mother's son] saying they will not be saved....are
pushing dragon breath! and now..they have God in their face to reprove them and set things in order
HE SHALL CALL UNTO THE HEAVENS AND UNTO THE EARTH THAT HE MAY JUDGE HIS PEOPLE v.4-7
it is a two/edged sword word/judgement and silence.
This kind of prophecy does come around every year - understandably to some degree, as the autumn feasts have yet to be fulfilled. I am sure it will come around next year too.
I must say am not sure about the line of reasoning with regards to Christ's birth, as with Herod the Great dying in 4BC, and his ordering the slaughter of infants aged two and below based on the time frame he heard from the men of the east, it would seem to put the birth of Jesus at least at 5-6BC.
The other point I would make is that even if the twenty years of age thing was true of most of Israel, Joshua - the type of Christ here - was excluded from that judgment along with Caleb, and would have been older than twenty when he led the people in. So what if Joshua were thirty three, or thirty six? By this line of reasoning, the next step might be more in line with Christ's death or resurrection, and we might be waiting till the 2030's.
None of this is meant to mock - I do believe the end of the age is likely to be "about" two thousand years from some aspect of Christ's incarnation, but that "about" leaves a lot of wiggle room, as even 2050 or 2060 could be seen as "about". Either way, I really like to steer clear of date setting.
Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, "Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" 7 And He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. 8 But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth." (Acts 1:6-8)
Quote from: Cardinal on March 10, 2016, 06:08:26 PM
:cloud9: I THINK I posted on here that my daughter was outside at midnight about a month ago and heard a trump sound that went on for several minutes. She said it went right through her it was so real.
Well, I was just talking to a friend of mine who I know hears, that I haven't talked to in quite awhile, and he said he asked God why he was not getting healed, nor anyone he knew getting healed in this time period, and he said God told Him about A MONTH AGO, that we were now in the time of the half hour of silence in heaven. That ties in with the sound of the trump.
Please everyone, press in, the time is short. Those that entered into the promised land were 20 years of age. If you add 20 to the established date (established by a comet in the sky during that time) of His birth, you get 16AD. If you add 2 days (2000 years), you get 2016. I fully believe that everything will be in place by Yom Kippur of Feast of Tabernacles this year. My :2c: as always....Blessings....
I've felt such a call before, Cardinal.. I used to think of it as a "revelation call"... urging folks to be aware of 'signs of the times'.. which is actually quite common in the scriptures.. and I think as days progress, more and more folks will be looking for some clear answers as to just what 'signs of the times' might be.
It's funny you are mentioning trumpets.. or a trumpet blast... It is of course the first of the ancient fall feasts (imo, not fulfilled yet)
I don't know the specific dates of those fall festivals but I'm studying up on them.. so i will know them. It is interesting too to look into the 'blood moons' (eclipses) of 2014 and 2015 which occurred on four holy days - I think two involving Passover and ? I don't remember which other feast day... and then two more on Trumpets and Tabernacles.. Kind of interesting.. tho I don't think eclipses are the "blood moons" of bible prophecy.. They had some red moons in California I heard last year when there were forest fires in (?)Wyoming, (?)Utah :dontknow:
There's a specific place in the book of revelation, which involves the pause.. Or rather the (a) pause which is upon earth (imo).. kind of a long pause, from a human perspective.. Then when that pause on earth is broken is when there is a pause or "half hour of silence in heaven".. which, when you think about it, does sound kind of somber.. But you know.. there's always been those somber things going on.. and in the middle east right now.. oh wow..
Cardinal, it would not surprise me one bit, if things did escalate in the planetary and international scene.. you see, when the pause (on earth) is broken, it's the seventh seal that's broken on the scroll which is the revelation production (that's how I think of it, as theater curtains opening.. acts being played out.. and don't forget the orchestra.. each note once it begins continues its sounding til the 'end'. (
Not an 'end' as we know! :banana: )
And so it is with the seals.. and the four horsemen who we know are the 1st four seals on the scroll (when broken open). Once a horseman began his ride, he continues it throughout.. I think of their progression as a gallop.. (i don't know why) ..becomes a gallop..?
So here's the weird thing -- (imo) the revelation vision begins with the seals, the vision of earthly things that is (a play/drama portrayed mostly in symbols). And right away there's some fancy footwork which hides a lot of the vision.. for i think a long time.. Each seal when it's opened, i believe, is described as a blend of two things.. two threads if you will. What it is when it first begins, and what it is in its full progression at the 'end'.
In this way, some things are told here so early on, which don't occur until very late on the planet. Confuses the vision..
Like horse and rider number two.. red horse who takes peace from the earth (always has)... starts out at a canter, first thread of its description.. then second thread, he's given a long sword...
But the seal which does this the most, is the sixth seal - the one which involves 'the pause'. This of course is in chapter six. And begins at verse twelve. I believe seal six is the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki. ..but it's blended, as though one, with later occurrences (or a later occurrence). And the way the vision of it is presented, I believe, is from below it, as if one were looking up from under it..
http://studybible.info/IGNT/revelation%206:12-17 (caves? i remember the bomb shelters of the 60's..)
Then the very next verse is
Revelation 7:1, the pause "After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree."
2 Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying, "Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads."
I sort of think the pause (of thermonuclear type warfare) being broken will occur in or from the middle east.. and i think things will tend to escalate..? (tho i still think it will take some time.. tho of course i could be very wrong..) A lot of folks are wondering if 2016 will see some economic collapse..? :dontknow: it's bound to happen, i'm thinking, sooner or later..i do think economic collapse will likely occur before some other things.. (but the worst things, i think, towards the very 'end', will be very short lived.. :2c: )
(.."He will be shade from the heat.. ..will lead them to streams of living" (including 'fresh'?) "waters.." It's to the philadelphia church (of brotherly love?) that He said, "because you have kept My command to persevere, I also
will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to try those dwelling upon the earth. Lo, I come quickly, be holding fast that which you have, that no one may take your crown." (3:10-11)
I think I read somewhere that during the moon eclipse on Tabernacles, some, many? of Israel were keeping Tabernacles which is outdoors under the starry skies, and the eclipse was visible in Israel (?)
The first group mentioned being sealed, in chapter seven, is from the tribes of Israel.. (and next sentence is a great crowd from all nations, tribes and tongues).. But I think Israel is sealed last.. because of how Jesus said "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you will not
see me again until
you say "blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD" (last verse Mt 23). And how Paul wrote "what then shall their gathering be but life from the dead?" NOt that i think, as some do, that this time is the marriage of the lamb, because i don't. It's simply a gathering as at the throne.. for worship.. (I think we can feel that in the air, don't you? that call to worship.. to press in closer to Him.. 'come up yonder'
in spirit.. fortify ourselves in Him for whatever, come what may..
and be ready to give answers?)
Quote from: sheila on March 10, 2016, 11:10:05 PM
the silence of God unto humankind..is Him being silent in HIS LOVE[Love keeps no record of the Offense-these/mankind
are the ones He sent His son to save]
I love that!
"silent in His love"Quote from: sheila on March 10, 2016, 11:10:05 PM
HE SHALL CALL UNTO THE HEAVENS AND UNTO THE EARTH THAT HE MAY JUDGE HIS PEOPLE v.4-7
it is a two/edged sword word/judgement and silence.
.."when the Son of man returns He will separate His sheep from (His) goats.."
Quote from: jabcat on March 10, 2016, 10:38:40 PM
Couple of questions Card if you'd share further thoughts please;
what (and how) do you see people pressing into - Jesus I'm sure, but to achieve what? (as opposed to trust, looking to Him for grace, mercy, and salvation [trusting His sufficiency]). How does that look different to you (if at all)?
also, what do you see happening after Yom Kipper, after everything's all set up? (Many would say either rapture, or Jesus' physical presence, judging, redeeming, etc.) What's your view of specifics of "next steps".
Thanks :)
Thanks James, these are the same questions I have, especially the first part. I was always a back row saint never talking much and never felt like I understood things very well. When the subject came up of the time being short and we really needed to press in, I never had any idea what I was supposed to do. But the last few years since understanding UR I am at rest about who I am and my relationship to the Father and the Son. I don't feel like ringing my hands because the time is short, I just wish He would hurry and come straighten things out. I pray "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN."
what I see in what she said[not speaking for her] pressing in to me..keep seeking keep asking keep following........the Holy spirit.
are we there yet? have we already arrived,already received all there is to be revealed?that we should stop seeking more of Him?
Yom Kippor=Day of Atonement[one mind with God and Christ] final act of High Priest placing sins on the scapegoat's head[Azazael's goat]
when God delivered Israel from Egypt[Pharoah/prince of this world] they made some stops in the wilderness..and different things
happened along the way.......a trump would blow when Israel was to break camp and move/or halt..following the pillar of cloud and
and pillar of fire[His Holy Presence] Korah's rebellion,the molton image of a calf idol..fiery flying serpents biting.and a serpent
had to be hung up on a brass pole[judgement] and looked at..so those who had been serpent bit along the way could live........
Balaam tried to curse them for reward..Balaac's plot to have them partake in idolatry and sexual immorality......lot's of things
onward..following after Him..as He leads us into the Promised land................meeting Him in the clouds up on that Holy Mountain.
I think it's not always a case of being worried.. & especially not for self, in the hearts of the Lord's people.. And what the spirit's speaking..
But times, i think, of the Spirit.. Not that the Spirit's worried, rofl..
But for the world and what message the Spirit is speaking to people of this day, and, or whatever day.
Can't speak for any one else, but if i felt the urge to press in concerning His return would have to do with "what saith the spirit to the people of this day".. Sure, it's Jesus, that's number one, but the prophets of old also spoke of troublous times coming.. If they know the Lord, trouble or calamity will not be traumatic.
And even more than that, I'm thinking, isn't there prophesied a great harvest of belief in late days? Not that we have to understand all specifics of what is prophesied.. but, if the spirit was to reveal it, all the better.. We don't know what will or will not happen, and that's not the question. As a slave of Jesus we should always of course be ready in season and out of season with whatever answers anyone should ask of us. I figure two main things I want to be able answer clearly is "what is God doing?" His intent and end goal He has in mind, some may call that what is the purpose of life..
And two for me would be where are we at in that plan.. I don't think the Lord's people should be alarmist and hysterical :laughing7: but i don't want to be asleep as to the signs of the times I'm living in, or in denial. (Which I often am I think, in denial. But if God spirit should blow a trumpet or show signs in the heavens and on the earth i hope i don't miss them. Must take a balance..I'm thinking)
:smile:
I myself not heard a trumpet like that but those who have are surely quickened
I believe we are always living in the Day of the Lord.
The parable of the wise and foolish virgins is, for me, a "Today if you hear His voice" prophecy.
The sense of urgency through which the Spirit speaks to us, "Awake O Sleeper and arise from the dead and the light of Christ will shine upon you" should be answered by us with "Arise O Lord to your dwelling place, You and the Ark of Your strength."
I believe the Wedding feast is always going on. Invitations have been sent and in every generation we listen, waiting and watching, up on the roof, for the voice, "The Bridegroom Comes!" and for the sign of the son of man to appear in the heavens.
I agree with Sheila that this has been in terms of manifestation, a silent time for a while, so when a brother or sister says they have heard the sound of trumpets, I rejoice, because my prayer has been, more than ever lately...
Come Quickly Lord Jesus!
It is hard to stay sharp, on the wall. Sometimes the night seems long and the dawn far off and the temptation to take a quick nap on the job can be overwhelming at times. But the Captain of the watch is making His rounds and requires diligent workmen who are scanning the horizon and ready to make the call, "The Bridegroom Comes!"- or perhaps, "Beware!" Enemies approach!"
But I believe the Bridegroom is coming down out of the heavens adorned as a Bride for her Bridegroom and their will be at least one more great wave of testimony before men from the body of Christ. So,
'When you see these things begin to happen 'Rejoice! For your redemption draws nigh".
Date-setting usually leads to disappointment, as in the Great Disappointment, a watershed event in American Christianity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment
If I in Him Today, abide
I am prepared for all that hides
Beyond the veil of tomorrow's gate
I am not cast adrift in fate
I am not fearing life or death
In Him I wait with every breath
Sustained and vivified.
Quote from: marie glen on March 11, 2016, 05:00:33 AM
I've felt such a call before, Cardinal.. I used to think of it as a "revelation call"... urging folks to be aware of 'signs of the times'.. which is actually quite common in the scriptures.. and I think as days progress, more and more folks will be looking for some clear answers as to just what 'signs of the times' might be.
:cloud9: Exactly. I've never been one to watch for "signs", I just keep trucking along with whatever He wants to show me. But more and more things are coming to my attention and I STRONGLY believe we are nearer than we think to His return.
IMO, salvation is not the issue (because all will ultimately be saved), but the level of reward, and THAT, we must press in for. That's all....my :2c: Blessings...
Quote from: Lazarus Short on March 12, 2016, 05:48:07 PM
Date-setting usually leads to disappointment, as in the Great Disappointment, a watershed event in American Christianity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment
Amen Lazarus. I think the need for dates can be a kind of golden calf - the need for a temporal focus. What is most telling is that when they inevitably fail, there never seems to be a repentance, or a period of reflection, but rather it is always on to the next "word" and the next prediction at full steam...
Personally, I have wondered why someone who has the living Christ within, would not consider this the most joyful event to be celebrated – and looking and praying dearly for the time when within another the Christ is risen and is seated on His throne, and has put ignorance beneath His feet.
"He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet." Psalm 18:9
I do not personally see 2,000 years as being a very long time spiritually, although I feel that poor and lowly hearts now have greater access to the consciousness of Christ – a dawning, if you will. I do believe that this consciousness can and does grow both individually and collectively, and that there comes a time when He appears in all His glory to the individual.
The signs are always there, in my opinion, it is just a case of seeing them in their simplicity. The signs are in the sky, they are in the earth. They are seen, I believe, when the individual is seeing the King of glory enter in.
"The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof,
the world and those who dwell therein,
for he has founded it upon the seas
and established it upon the rivers.
Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord?
And who shall stand in his holy place?
He who has clean hands and a pure heart,
who does not lift up his soul to what is false
and does not swear deceitfully.
He will receive blessing from the Lord
and righteousness from the God of his salvation.
Such is the generation of those who seek him,
who seek the face of the God of Jacob. Selah
Lift up your heads, O gates!
And be lifted up, O ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.
Who is this King of glory?
The Lord, strong and mighty,
the Lord, mighty in battle!
Lift up your heads, O gates!
And lift them up, O ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.
Who is this King of glory?
The Lord of hosts,
he is the King of glory! Selah" Psalm 24
I believe that in permitting, in the silence of the innermost being, the Lord God in Christ to fill oneself continually in understanding and in love, then what is in error is transformed into spiritual beauty by Him.
"Besides this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed." Romans 13:11
It is Christ who lives within, redeeming, forgiving, healing. As I understand it, this time comes to all who have turned to Christ with the humble heart and are governed by His Will.
I see you guys point. yet,at the same time..we know there are 'divine appointments' when the sons of God must appear before
the Father...and these are in His hands to fulfill...and we know also that being aware of 'signs of the times' ,as He admonished/alert.
...the sun will turn as black as sackcloth and the moon to blood before the coming...........
Iv'e set my heart to build and edify..whether just a bringing to remembrance,when such things are spoken..and/or a looking forward
...to not tear down[foolish] the house of faith. whether babes/carnal/blind/deaf/legion possessed..whatever state any man be in
of bondage or freedom in Christ...to all be looking forward in faith. Let us never use 'our knowledge' to tear down faith in someone
that may not have our 'accurate knowledge" But build them up,wherever they are..in the household of faith...for these three
things remain...faith..hope and love. My Father's House is a house of prayer for all men.
date setting can have this effect 'expectation postponed is making the heart sick. SOS...'tell Him I am sick of love"
....................... the Bridegroom was delayed......... but..it can also cause hope to rise...faith to sustain/endure; and love to flame.
:HeartThrob:
By now,we all have come to realize that 'the accusor of the brethern/adversary" has nothing in Christ. and let it be also for the spirit ofChrist
that dwells in us. Any who come to Him in faith..received the reward.whether righteousness,grace,power,healing.
Greater is He that dwells in you..than he that is in the world... BELEIVE THAT!!! PUT FAITH IN THAT!! NOTHING CAN SEPERATE YOU
FROM THE LOVE OF THE FATHER THAT WAS SHOWN IN JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!
Nothing can seperate your fellowman from that love either............ :girlheart: Praise Father!!!!!!
let all those hoping in Him continue in prayer and sanctification....... :HeartThrob:......Daddy's coming!
I was just going to read.. [ :thumbsup: good posts!) but had to say amen, Lastpost.. I love, Psalm 24, tho I was thinking it was 25, but the memory isnt what it used to be.. the line "open ye ancient gates that the King of Glory may come in".. :cloud9: (haven't read it for a while.. thanks!)
"His kingdom will ever end.." nor will His glory! :gsmile: ...i have concern for the people though.. even today.. in the middle east.. the best thing we can do i guess, is to pray for them.. that His grace be fully with them..
I have really enjoyed all the sharing what is in your hearts and sometimes it is just good to ''listen ''
:HeartThrob:
Quote from: rosered on March 13, 2016, 03:27:53 AM
I have really enjoyed all the sharing what is in your hearts and sometimes it is just good to "listen "
:HeartThrob:
Me too, Rose :HeartThrob: I have been in a listening mindset. I got into a "talking like I know it all" mindset the other day and it backfired on me I think.
I need to remember to--Trust in the LORD with all your heart; and lean not to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct your paths.
Anyway I like to hear all the different thoughts. Especially Last post, Sheila, and everyone else
Quote from: GodIsLove on March 13, 2016, 03:37:52 AM
Quote from: rosered on March 13, 2016, 03:27:53 AM
I have really enjoyed all the sharing what is in your hearts and sometimes it is just good to "listen "
:HeartThrob:
Me too, Rose :HeartThrob: I have been in a listening mindset. I got into a "talking like I know it all" mindset the other day and it backfired on me I think.
I need to remember to--Trust in the LORD with all your heart; and lean not to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct your paths.
Anyway I like to hear all the different thoughts. Especially Last post, Sheila, and everyone else
Me too sis sensing admonishment , I do not know anything or have anything , as we all are given and forgiven from above and ask the Lord if I could have more of His Love dwelling , than knowledge any day .
I do know I love you all and are in my thoughts and prayers , I know you all by the Spirit and not the flesh as family . :HeartThrob:
Quote from: rosered on March 13, 2016, 03:56:38 AM
Quote from: GodIsLove on March 13, 2016, 03:37:52 AM
Quote from: rosered on March 13, 2016, 03:27:53 AM
I have really enjoyed all the sharing what is in your hearts and sometimes it is just good to "listen "
:HeartThrob:
Me too, Rose :HeartThrob: I have been in a listening mindset. I got into a "talking like I know it all" mindset the other day and it backfired on me I think.
I need to remember to--Trust in the LORD with all your heart; and lean not to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct your paths.
Anyway I like to hear all the different thoughts. Especially Last post, Sheila, and everyone else
Me too sis sensing admonishment , I do not know anything or have anything , as we all are given and forgiven from above and ask the Lord if I could have more of His Love dwelling , than knowledge any day .
I do know I love you all and are in my thoughts and prayers , I know you all by the Spirit and not the flesh as family . :HeartThrob:
Yes to all of that! I love you all too :HeartThrob:
I listened to one day of daily bible readings last week on biblegateway dot com and numbers 10 was the reading which is about how trumpets were sounded for ancient Israel as calls to assembly.. two blasts was for all the people to gather at the door to the tent of meeting.. one blast was for the leaders to gather...
Quote from: Cardinal on March 12, 2016, 07:26:41 PM
IMO, salvation is not the issue (because all will ultimately be saved), but the level of reward, and THAT, we must press in for. That's all....my :2c: Blessings...
I understand, thanks :)
its been a while for me to be on this board and also feel the umption begin
for me... I since the calling of those called by God to call into line those things that are of God
Blessings
I think we press in to partake in the first resurrection. To me, pressing in is walking in the simplicity of love and faith in practical ways such as kindness, forgiveness, patience, trust, faith and love. These are the evidences that we "know Him".
Anyone who lives in such a away will suffer for the sake of righteousness.
I think a lot of people think pressing in is about zealotry, intensity and depth of knowledge, but none of those things are evidence that one has come to know Him.
If we are overcoming it will be seen in the love and faith and grace that is in Jesus for those who embrace Him and walk as he walked in faithful love and service.... not the "seen" kind either.
"Do your alms in secret..."
"Pray in secret..."
"Don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing"
Quote from: eaglesway on March 15, 2016, 09:00:10 AM
I think we press in to partake in the first resurrection. To me, pressing in is walking in the simplicity of love and faith in practical ways such as kindness, forgiveness, patience, trust, faith and love. These are the evidences that we "know Him".
Anyone who lives in such a away will suffer for the sake of righteousness.
I think a lot of people think pressing in is about zealotry, intensity and depth of knowledge, but none of those things are evidence that one has come to know Him.
If we are overcoming it will be seen in the love and faith and grace that is in Jesus for those who embrace Him and walk as he walked in faithful love and service.... not the "seen" kind either.
"Do your alms in secret..."
"Pray in secret..."
"Don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing"
Matt 5 :thumbsup: You are right John it is being complete [perfect] as you Father is , taking notice of lacking
I also believe it is focusing on the things above , Looking to Jesus , narrowing the view , in the joy of the Lord and not below where err '' the body of death '' dwells in violence sorrow and pain and loss are evident being in the world but not of it ..
the prince of this world had no part in Jesus ,, He overcome the world, to conquer
to carry off the victory, come off victorious
of Christ, victorious over all His foes
of Christians, that hold fast their faith even unto death against the power of their foes, and temptations and persecutions
when one is arraigned or goes to law,
to win the case, maintain one's cause
Paul said it is a race and to win the prize 1Cor 9 Run Your Race to Win
24Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize?
Run in such a way that you may win.
25Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things.
They then do it to receive a perishable wreath,
but we an imperishable one ....
God bless :HeartThrob:
Amen we have one rule.. one law.. "love God". If one truly "loves God" they will draw near to Him.. (hang out with Him, and He rubs off onto us! as the saying goes? :dontknow: ) And He/Love will flow out of the heart and truly/sincerely, as full, overflowing love.. (and of course, "love works no ill")
imo, the measuring rod is love... do we love?! (and not just those of our own particular group, "even the unsaved do that!")
... :Chinscratch: :Chinscratch: yet also.. (or including) "if the watchman - watch and pray? - see calamity coming and not warn the city..." Isaiah the prophet said "your land is full of chariots! And is only bruises from head to foot.." And the spirit of Elijah said "the ax is laid to the root"(nation). How wonderful for me if I can discern the signs of the times and be safely "hidden"... yet not seek to pass on those landmarks to others..? As opposed to "blessed are those who hear and heed.." How, will they be blessed to hear, and to heed?
:Peace2: :smile:
Quote from: eaglesway on March 15, 2016, 09:00:10 AM
I think we press in to partake in the first resurrection. To me, pressing in is walking in the simplicity of love and faith in practical ways such as kindness, forgiveness, patience, trust, faith and love. These are the evidences that we "know Him".
Anyone who lives in such a away will suffer for the sake of righteousness.
I think a lot of people think pressing in is about zealotry, intensity and depth of knowledge, but none of those things are evidence that one has come to know Him.
If we are overcoming it will be seen in the love and faith and grace that is in Jesus for those who embrace Him and walk as he walked in faithful love and service.... not the "seen" kind either.
"Do your alms in secret..."
"Pray in secret..."
"Don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing"
I love this, John. After all, what is spiritual fruit, but the fruit of the Spirit?
Quote from: marie glen on March 15, 2016, 04:31:50 PM
Amen we have one rule.. one law.. "love God". If one truly "loves God" they will draw near to Him.. (hang out with Him, and He rubs off onto us! as the saying goes? :dontknow: ) And He/Love will flow out of the heart and truly/sincerely, as full, overflowing love.. (and of course, "love works no ill")
imo, the measuring rod is love... do we love?! (and not just those of our own particular group, "even the unsaved do that!")
... :Chinscratch: :Chinscratch: yet also.. (or including) "if the watchman - watch and pray? - see calamity coming and not warn the city..." Isaiah the prophet said "your land is full of chariots! And is only bruises from head to foot.." And the spirit of Elijah said "the ax is laid to the root"(nation). How wonderful for me if I can discern the signs of the times and be safely "hidden"... yet not seek to pass on those landmarks to others..? As opposed to "blessed are those who hear and heed.." How, will they be blessed to hear, and to heed?
:Peace2: :smile:
I agree. The watchman on the wall has a responsibility that must be discharged faithfully. But I think that more often than not the call is to walk in the divine nature. To abide in the secret place of the most high. To abide in the Vine.
There is no place to run. There is no place to hide. There is wisdom, but most of all there is trust. Trust God. Love people. Be prepared to give a defense of the hope that is in you.
Then whether you stand or fall. In good times or bad. The glory of God will rest upon you and your place at His table will be secure, your wedding garment will be intact.
"For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. "
Jesus said things like, "Your enemies will be of your own household. Sons will turn on daughters and children will turn on their parents." Paul said that the signs of the end would be...
"For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,..."
Jesus said, "because iniquity abounds the love of many will grow cold".
Definitely all these things are fulfilled.
If we are to shine like lights in this wicked, perverse generation it will not be with words shouted from a street corner, it will be that we remain in the kindness of the Lord. Instructing with patience and longsuffering those who oppose themselves. Holding this fire of love within these clay vessels. Blessing those who curse us. Leaving the testimony behind us- "Jesus was enough for me." " His word sustained my soul" "His love was my True North" "His Spirit illumined my mind".
Just as the "smoke of their torment" becomes a monument in time to the wickedness of men, the incense of our prayers rises up from beneath the altar where we 'wait upon the Lord' in our daily lives.
When the trumpet sounds it is time to get in the secret place of the Most High. Watch, Pray, Wait upon the Lord.
Come Quickly Lord Jesus.
Quote from: Cardinal on March 10, 2016, 06:08:26 PM
:cloud9: I THINK I posted on here that my daughter was outside at midnight about a month ago and heard a trump sound that went on for several minutes. She said it went right through her it was so real.
Well, I was just talking to a friend of mine who I know hears, that I haven't talked to in quite awhile, and he said he asked God why he was not getting healed, nor anyone he knew getting healed in this time period, and he said God told Him about A MONTH AGO, that we were now in the time of the half hour of silence in heaven. That ties in with the sound of the trump.
Please everyone, press in, the time is short. Those that entered into the promised land were 20 years of age. If you add 20 to the established date (established by a comet in the sky during that time) of His birth, you get 16AD. If you add 2 days (2000 years), you get 2016. I fully believe that everything will be in place by Yom Kippur of Feast of Tabernacles this year. My :2c: as always....Blessings....
(uh oh.. I got a little long winded.. But interesting! or that is, i will try not to be too boring.. :mshock: )
I have believed that we are in a prophetic pause..
Revelation 7:1-9 - (NIV)
(144,000 Sealed)
1
After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.Just previous to this, in chapter 6, is what I believe was the "opening" of the split atom over Hiroshima and Nagasaki - described as a blend of this first event and latter day last events (of it) - in other words, the whole seal described here (so early on). I don't know why all the prophecy buffs who are teachers can't seem to perceive that.. This way of describing them, i think, is only logical. [Look how men sailed the huge oceans blue - because of the innate sense of adventure - and solving riddles! :laughing7: and now mankind dreams of space.. "who's out there..?" :laughing7: yes, indeedy..
Who's out there..?]
I can't help thinking the time of silence (Rev 8:1) the Spirit of God was speaking to your friend, i now realize, concludes the pause (
vs 7:1)
You see, during this pause of Revelation chapter seven, is when the 144,000 of the tribes of Israel are "sealed on their forehead" - I know there's lots of theories about this and the #, but i'm just looking at the verses.
And picture this.. I heard that this last year at Tabernacles, which is an outdoor feast, the full eclipse of the moon could be seen in Israel. I don't know, but if I was camping outside and there was a full eclipse of the moon, I would be watching it.. and if there were clouds in the way, i'd still spiritually see it, and look it up via computer the next day.. The moon is beautiful in an eclipse.. :gsmile:
I just happened, on the days this thread was running, to decide to listen to a daily bible reading.. why? I never do, never have.. And what was the reading?
Numbers ten which begins explaining the trumpet blasts in which Yahweh would call the tribes of Israel to assemble at the door of the Tent of Meeting. So guess what? One long trumpet sounding is the call for the elders to assemble.
Two, is for the whole nations to assemble (and hear?).. [please let me know if your daughter should later hear two trumpet soundings.. or maybe someone else would hear it.. Or no one else..]
....so the four angels are holding back the winds that they harm not the trees or seas..
2
Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3 "Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God." 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.verses 5 through 8 the tribes are listed..
then there's verse nine - (spiritual assembly I believe! because they show up in later chapters :smile: )
The Great Multitude in White Robes
9
After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.(I believe these too, were sealed on the forehead; Israel last because of some key verses - "won't see me again until you say 'blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD" Mt. 23:39?/last verse; and Paul's "if their falling away is salvation to the gentiles/great crowd? what shall their gathering be but life from the dead?"(Ro. 10?) i.e. resurrection? which occurs at Jesus' return.. Not that I believe it is imminent.. Too many other things need to occur according to the written word.. (imo) unless the whole world repents and changes (the) course (it is on) (and also because of the last verse of rev 12 which cross references w/ 16:14-16)
[oh dear, this is getting to be too long..]
Who is this great crowd from every tribe, tongue and nation? [note: I tend to think
this life is great tribulation]
14 .."These are they who have come out of the great tribulation;
they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore,
"they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne
will shelter them with his presence. (If the crowd was in the heavenlies, surely? they wouldn't need protection)
16 'Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat down on them,'
nor any scorching heat.
17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne
will be their shepherd;
'he will lead them to springs of living water.'
'And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.'" (Yahweh's telescoping of His Word.. not always in strict order.. He can blend His descriptions)
So what happens next?
Revelation 8 - (NIV)
The Seventh Seal and the Golden Censer
8 When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour.
2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them.
3 Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all God's people, on the golden altar in front of the throne. 4 The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of God's people, went up before God from the angel's hand. 5 Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake. :Chinscratch: i've always thought the pause of rev 7:1 would end with some split atom event, and then would be the half hour of silence..
a moment of silence. :Chinscratch: but maybe not.. Perhaps
the half hour of (heavenly) silence concludes the pause! Then, verse 5 :idea2: Which
looking at verse five.. these i think of as split atom events.. and after this I believe things escalate on the planet.. we currently, since the 1st split atom event, being in a pause of the splitting of the atom (and what they've developed from it, since)
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The Trumpets
6 Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them. [effects upon earth, some being metaphor.. like ships representing trade; blood waters as contaminated waters..]
7 The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down on the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up. [where it occurs?]
8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.
12 The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night. [Joels' smoky day? chap 9, "out of the smoke comes.."]
13 As I watched, I heard an eagle that was flying in midair call out in a loud voice: "Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!"
Psalm 91
1 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, "He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust."
3 Surely he will save you
from the fowler's snare
and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge;
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.
Quote from: eaglesway on March 15, 2016, 09:00:10 AM
I think we press in to partake in the first resurrection. To me, pressing in is walking in the simplicity of love and faith in practical ways such as kindness, forgiveness, patience, trust, faith and love. These are the evidences that we "know Him".
Anyone who lives in such a away will suffer for the sake of righteousness.
I think a lot of people think pressing in is about zealotry, intensity and depth of knowledge, but none of those things are evidence that one has come to know Him.
If we are overcoming it will be seen in the love and faith and grace that is in Jesus for those who embrace Him and walk as he walked in faithful love and service.... not the "seen" kind either.
"Do your alms in secret..."
"Pray in secret..."
"Don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing"
I think I'd have to disagree with the bolded part, as least as far as knowledge goes....we must first decrease for Him to increase. Knowledge of the spiritual kind, is part of the fruit of that decreasing that brought the increase.
Pressing in to me means, get your house in order. We all have things we need to work on, more decreasing to do. My :2c: Blessings....
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