The 'end times'.
What are they and what are the signs of the end times? (to you).
I have some answers ...but I still have so many questions... :Pray:
Quote from: shorazorblade on November 07, 2019, 08:49:52 PM
...but I still have so many questions... :Pray:
Ha, so do I. There is a million different teachings on the 'end times' with some teachers trying to explain the nitty gritty details of what they believe is going to happen. But I keep a wait and see attitude on all the details. What I believe is 'with the Lord a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day', so since it's 6000 years since Adam, the 7th year or day is beginning, and the 7th day is a day of rest. I believe we are in for some unbelievably good times coming soon. 'Your kingdom come. Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven'. Matthew 6:10. One age is ending and the next one beginning.
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/ This is a link to Dr. Stephen Jones web site which I like and has a lot of stuff on what he thinks is coming and other teachings.
Thank you for that.
Interesting to remember the 'day = thousand years'.
And it's nice to hear someone with a positive outlook on things whether right or wrong for a change. I used to have a positive view...Now I don't (for the temporary future (but of course 'long-term' I do)) (Love (God) all in all etc). Right now I don't like where this 'one world' thing is going and the spy we carry around in our smartphones etc and how a dictatorship is hidden behind democracy...and of course the pollution problems, the barbarism still going on in places and so on. It's hard for me to see how things can be made good anytime soon...But I could be wrong of course.
I've realized lately...Just how 'symbolic' the bible really is...Or at least how it is a zillion times more symbolic than I first thought (and even from the outset I believed it was extremely symbolic)... It makes me have to restudy again...and again...
In a way I think a lot of us WANT the locust swarms and three headed whatevers (like something out of Skyrim) to ravage the earth and spit out fire in wicked people's faces etc...and for Jesus to come like a knight in spaceship-clouds with zillions of massive angels and make everything great and for us to be taken away with him and our new friends to a better world etc.
...But...It's symbolism...and sometimes it's hard to make the transition.
...All part of growing up I guess. My problem.
Amen.. "approaching the 7th day".. I don't want to sound, um.. knowitall, but for example (I think) there is only one thing I don't get in the Book of Revelation. Don't worry I love to babbl-on about it, but no one listens to me, lol. Waay back in the day, this is one of the things I prayed over a list of questions I'd written up about it.
One of the top ways I figure out if something is true or not, is if the Spirit of God builds upon it.. and keeps building upon it. That and thinking what would be the fruit of it? It's progression and outcome showing logically either good fruit or bad.. Bible prophecy sounds bad but that's NOT the end result or outcome (fruit).
Like for instance, not always sure if all would be saved.. i.e. just who or what are the tares? I found myself wondering if perhaps they were literally "children of the devil" or not? I didn't wonder that for long as the fruit of such thinking, is not good, has never been good. Such who believe that have found a justification for (their) hate, and so it seemed extremely unlikely. And a bit later realizing the Scripture indeed answers it.. how "all men are from the same blood" .."all born of Adam" and last but not least, how "WE all "WERE children of the devil" before our being "born again" via "the seed" which Galatians 3(?,4?) says is Jesus birthed in us.. The smallest seed, which grows into the biggest and best plant of all.
I believe there are two locks (and a half,lol) in Revelation that keep it (usually) misunderstood. And about Mt.24; Mark 13; and Luke 21, like most prophecy, it's like a telescope. And there's a Greek word concerning prophecy that means to telescope. :Chinscratch: :doh: I don't mean to be all over the place about prophecy. Prophecies have a more or less 'immediate' fulfillment, and a 'last days' fulfillment.. By last days meaning last days or latter end of mankind's kingdom(s) built atop God's creation.
Like the comings of the Lord. A shorter advent first, then later, after a gap of time, the larger and longer lasting advent, called the millennium (in Rev.20, "the thousand years" - THE seventh day. A day of rest (and further education?) It's my belief we will need it for the following age called the judgment, a thorough, thus intense review of all history - from Adam to Apocalypse-the collapse/ruin which proves of the two ways of life - toward God, or away from God, only one can EVER work. This has to be proven to "all in heaven and Earth"
...to be continued, duty calls..
Quote from: marie glen on November 10, 2019, 08:24:11 PM
Amen.. "approaching the 7th day".. I don't want to sound, um.. knowitall, but for example (I think) there is only one thing I don't get in the Book of Revelation. Don't worry I love to babbl-on about it, but no one listens to me, lol. Waay back in the day, this is one of the things I prayed over a list of questions I'd written up about it.
One of the top ways I figure out if something is true or not, is if the Spirit of God builds upon it.. and keeps building upon it. That and thinking what would be the fruit of it? It's progression and outcome showing logically either good fruit or bad.. Bible prophecy sounds bad but that's NOT the end result or outcome (fruit).
Like for instance, not always sure if all would be saved.. i.e. just who or what are the tares? I found myself wondering if perhaps they were literally "children of the devil" or not? I didn't wonder that for long as the fruit of such thinking, is not good, has never been good. Such who believe that have found a justification for (their) hate, and so it seemed extremely unlikely. And a bit later realizing the Scripture indeed answers it.. how "all men are from the same blood" .."all born of Adam" and last but not least, how "WE all "WERE children of the devil" before our being "born again" via "the seed" which Galatians 3(?,4?) says is Jesus birthed in us.. The smallest seed, which grows into the biggest and best plant of all.
I believe there are two locks (and a half,lol) in Revelation that keep it (usually) misunderstood. And about Mt.24; Mark 13; and Luke 21, like most prophecy, it's like a telescope. And there's a Greek word concerning prophecy that means to telescope. :Chinscratch: :doh: I don't mean to be all over the place about prophecy. Prophecies have a more or less 'immediate' fulfillment, and a 'last days' fulfillment.. By last days meaning last days or latter end of mankind's kingdom(s) built atop God's creation.
Like the comings of the Lord. A shorter advent first, then later, after a gap of time, the larger and longer lasting advent, called the millennium (in Rev.20, "the thousand years" - THE seventh day. A day of rest (and further education?) It's my belief we will need it for the following age called the judgment, a thorough, thus intense review of all history - from Adam to Apocalypse-the collapse/ruin which proves of the two ways of life - toward God, or away from God, only one can EVER work. This has to be proven to "all in heaven and Earth"
...to be continued, duty calls..
I just wonder if we are in for another Messiah under a different name at some point in the future to 'remind' us.
Usually the world ends (or a new 'age' comes in symbolically) and then people start to prophecy the coming of a new messiah...It seems to have happened many times throughout history if one reads between the lines.
Apparently there were sixteen crucified saviours throughout history and who knows how many more lost in history.
prophecy part 2 - Once the points of confusion - locks - are recognized, I think all we have to do is read it. The Book of Revelation that is, Daniel is a little more technical.. but the other prophets are not hard to understand.
Of course in Revelation, we want to understand the characters - #2, the late days or today's world (beast) body. (Babylon the Great being #1, Beasts are governings of man. Revelation 17:16 tells us in the last hour this body will have ten kings, or divisions, to coincide and make sense with the ten toes in the Book of Daniel.. in chapter 2, Nebuchadnezzar's dream statue of world kingdoms in the story of being adversaries to the Kingdom of God. The first kingdom gold - Babylon, the head of the statue, which fits because, Babylon the Great is the spread/gone global (sitting upon 7 continents/hills) empire of last days..
The ten toes are what in Daniel 2 "the Stone not made by hands" - Kingdom not made by humans - hits the feet of the statue and it topples, becoming dust blown away by the wind.. Revelation 17:16, as I mentioned says the ten horns of the world beast/body will hate the harlot called Babylon the Great, with whom (paradoxically) the "kings of earth" (politicians) are in bed with her; called in fornication with her.. 'she' who "made the merchants wealthy" who will "weep when she falls in an hour" and is destroyed "in a day". The greek word translated harlot is pornos.. and didn't this gold empire end up using seduction to sell its "long list of products and luxuries right down to the bodies and lives of humans?" (The notorious sex slave trade. And abortions?)
The "ten horns/toes are kings with authority for one hour with the beast" and these "will consume Babylon the Great and burn her with fire". So we see war, leading to fiery armageddon, and it seems obvious, looking at the world (of today) that Socialism will consume and destroy Capitalism - it's LONG held DREAM, to destroy capitalism. Which gone indecent — it's (her) enchantment corrupting and destroying the Earth/world/culture/family - so it is God's will that they do so! Rev.17:16-17. She "rides the (world) beast" but it will turn on her.
A lot of folks think the middle east beast will be the world beast and in a way it too will be.. and the world beast (party?) of "peace peace" when there is no peace (in them?) will surely harness the middle east beast? - according to Rev.20:4d.
Still reading, lol? Note - it's the world beast (with 7 heads and 10 horns) and the "false prophet" who are cast into a lake of fire at the time of the return/appearing of the Lord. (The same time the tares are gathered - not to a 'hell' but is an occurrence of very last days, or last day. As the Lord said it will be at the time of His returning/appearing, long before "the judgment".
As you may see, the big / world beast cast there, is not a human being but an institution of man. The false prophet is thought to be the 'little' beast (Rev.13:11-18 as opposed to 1-10) because, well, I'm not sure why.. Of course some prophecy buffs think EVERY character of Revelation is the same character - which doesn't sound very logical to me.. and they seem stuck in yesteryear's world.
The "false prophet"/teacher/teaching/theory/"strong delusion" did however, also, give to the little beast (an OFFICE ...with two horns/seats) the ability to make "fire come down from the sky in the sight of men" - now here is that .5 or half lock on the vision - most folks believe the fire 'he' looses (loosed!) pinpoints an individual. Not so. It pinpoints an office the final AC (anti-Christ) will come from or will have been in.. and in last hours, is enabled to step into the world beast/body in the prime seat obviously, as they seem to morph into a sort of one.
One more thing to note about the world beast/body (world governing body) of Revelation 13:1-10, it cross references with the "beast more terrible" of Daniel chapter 7! Why do I say that? Daniel 7:7 & 19 show the beast with ten horns has in it the bronze and iron of Nebuchadnezzar's dream statue! (Dan.2) Which most prophecy folks agree the bronze was Greece and the iron was Rome. So the very last days, world governing beast/body will be western based. Of the bronze and iron.. Roman senates, courts, architecture.. Greek secular or humanistic philosophy, drama, arts, etc.. In other words is of Roman/Graeco roots, i.e, of Western civilization. Like the "ten toes" of Nebuchadnezzar's empires of man statue, is part iron (western) and part clay (not western).
The "fire" of 13:13 convinced the world (verse 14) to rebuild the world beast/body whose final head had expired. It was, then wasn't then was again. (Yes, in yesteryear this was the Roman Empire expiring and then rising again as the Holy Roman Empire, but this one does not rise 3 times!)
Did I mention that the fire was HUGE, but remains unseen when it comes to interpreting late days prophecy? Because they believe the fire (will) pinpoint an individual, but istead it hAs pinpointed an office which carried it out. This same thing (event) was the opening of seal 6!
And this brings us to one of the two major locks on the vision. The seals - especially the 6th are described not only as they are in their beginning / at their being broken open on the scroll which is the Revelation vision.
The 6 seals, like the four horsemen of the apocalypse - which are the first 4 seals - continue their progression (gallop) right to the end. And - they are described fully, from their first or beginning, to their full blown maturity at the 'end'.
In this way things which occur very late upon the planet, are described here - chapter 6 - at the beginning of the vision! Oh the confusion this causes!
Seal 6 is the "long or great sword" given to seal 2, the rider on a red horse, which obviously is war, as it takes peace from the Earth.
According to Rev. chapter 7, seal 6 is then paused, during which 2 "crowds" are sealed on their foreheads making them virgins when it comes to true and untrue.. no untruth is upon their lips.. 2 crowds, one numbered and one too many to number.
oh dear I can babble on.. but who wants to tell only half the story?
To be continued.. (because this is too long.. but! can be read, or not read..) :gsmile:
Quote from: shorazorblade on November 10, 2019, 08:50:15 PM
I just wonder if we are in for another Messiah under a different name at some point in the future to 'remind' us.
Usually the world ends (or a new 'age' comes in symbolically) and then people start to prophecy the coming of a new messiah...It seems to have happened many times throughout history if one reads between the lines.
Apparently there were sixteen crucified saviours throughout history and who knows how many more lost in history.
I'm extremely partial to the Bible, especially the New Testament. And I don't bother with any other 'sources' or teachers, youtube, etc. I looked into some of the extra biblical so called gospels, etc and since they differ with the Bible - except for "MacCabees" account between the Old and New Testaments.. tho still not "scripture" but mostly accurate, I don't bother with them. And the beliefs and myths of the nations the Bible totally disagrees with.
Though of course there's been the different ages and empires of Earth.
But "there is no-other name under heaven, whereby we are saved" from death the wages/result of sin/"missing the mark". Because God surely(?) is life itself and "is perfect" (Mt.5:48) thus "missing the mark" is the opposite of life, and ultimately the opposite of living./being alive. BUT! "God is the savior of all".. 1 Tim.4:10.
Quote from: marie glen on November 10, 2019, 10:58:56 PM
prophecy part 2 - Once the points of confusion - locks - are recognized, I think all we have to do is read it. The Book of Revelation that is, Daniel is a little more technical.. but the other prophets are not hard to understand.
Of course in Revelation, we want to understand the characters - #2, the late days or today's world (beast) body. (Babylon the Great being #1, Beasts are governings of man. Revelation 17:16 tells us in the last hour this body will have ten kings, or divisions, to coincide and make sense with the ten toes in the Book of Daniel.. in chapter 2, Nebuchadnezzar's dream statue of world kingdoms in the story of being adversaries to the Kingdom of God. The first kingdom gold - Babylon, the head of the statue, which fits because, Babylon the Great is the spread/gone global (sitting upon 7 continents/hills) empire of last days..
The ten toes are what in Daniel 2 "the Stone not made by hands" - Kingdom not made by humans - hits the feet of the statue and it topples, becoming dust blown away by the wind.. Revelation 17:16, as I mentioned says the ten horns of the world beast/body will hate the harlot called Babylon the Great, with whom (paradoxically) the "kings of earth" (politicians) are in bed with her; called in fornication with her.. 'she' who "made the merchants wealthy" who will "weep when she falls in an hour" and is destroyed "in a day". The greek word translated harlot is pornos.. and didn't this gold empire end up using seduction to sell its "long list of products and luxuries right down to the bodies and lives of humans?" (The notorious sex slave trade. And abortions?)
The "ten horns/toes are kings with authority for one hour with the beast" and these "will consume Babylon the Great and burn her with fire". So we see war, leading to fiery armageddon, and it seems obvious, looking at the world (of today) that Socialism will consume and destroy Capitalism - it's LONG held DREAM, to destroy capitalism. Which gone indecent — it's (her) enchantment corrupting and destroying the Earth/world/culture/family - so it is God's will that they do so! Rev.17:16-17. She "rides the (world) beast" but it will turn on her.
A lot of folks think the middle east beast will be the world beast and in a way it too will be.. and the world beast (party?) of "peace peace" when there is no peace (in them?) will surely harness the middle east beast? - according to Rev.20:4d.
Still reading, lol? Note - it's the world beast (with 7 heads and 10 horns) and the "false prophet" who are cast into a lake of fire at the time of the return/appearing of the Lord. (The same time the tares are gathered - not to a 'hell' but is an occurrence of very last days, or last day. As the Lord said it will be at the time of His returning/appearing, long before "the judgment".
As you may see, the big / world beast cast there, is not a human being but an institution of man. The false prophet is thought to be the 'little' beast (Rev.13:11-18 as opposed to 1-10) because, well, I'm not sure why.. Of course some prophecy buffs think EVERY character of Revelation is the same character - which doesn't sound very logical to me.. and they seem stuck in yesteryear's world.
The "false prophet"/teacher/teaching/theory/"strong delusion" did however, also, give to the little beast (an OFFICE ...with two horns/seats) the ability to make "fire come down from the sky in the sight of men" - now here is that .5 or half lock on the vision - most folks believe the fire 'he' looses (loosed!) pinpoints an individual. Not so. It pinpoints an office the final AC (anti-Christ) will come from or will have been in.. and in last hours, is enabled to step into the world beast/body in the prime seat obviously, as they seem to morph into a sort of one.
One more thing to note about the world beast/body (world governing body) of Revelation 13:1-10, it cross references with the "beast more terrible" of Daniel chapter 7! Why do I say that? Daniel 7:7 & 19 show the beast with ten horns has in it the bronze and iron of Nebuchadnezzar's dream statue! (Dan.2) Which most prophecy folks agree the bronze was Greece and the iron was Rome. So the very last days, world governing beast/body will be western based. Of the bronze and iron.. Roman senates, courts, architecture.. Greek secular or humanistic philosophy, drama, arts, etc.. In other words is of Roman/Graeco roots, i.e, of Western civilization. Like the "ten toes" of Nebuchadnezzar's empires of man statue, is part iron (western) and part clay (not western).
The "fire" of 13:13 convinced the world (verse 14) to rebuild the world beast/body whose final head had expired. It was, then wasn't then was again. (Yes, in yesteryear this was the Roman Empire expiring and then rising again as the Holy Roman Empire, but this one does not rise 3 times!)
Did I mention that the fire was HUGE, but remains unseen when it comes to interpreting late days prophecy? Because they believe the fire (will) pinpoint an individual, but istead it hAs pinpointed an office which carried it out. This same thing (event) was the opening of seal 6!
And this brings us to one of the two major locks on the vision. The seals - especially the 6th are described not only as they are in their beginning / at their being broken open on the scroll which is the Revelation vision.
The 6 seals, like the four horsemen of the apocalypse - which are the first 4 seals - continue their progression (gallop) right to the end. And - they are described fully, from their first or beginning, to their full blown maturity at the 'end'.
In this way things which occur very late upon the planet, are described here - chapter 6 - at the beginning of the vision! Oh the confusion this causes!
Seal 6 is the "long or great sword" given to seal 2, the rider on a red horse, which obviously is war, as it takes peace from the Earth.
According to Rev. chapter 7, seal 6 is then paused, during which 2 "crowds" are sealed on their foreheads making them virgins when it comes to true and untrue.. no untruth is upon their lips.. 2 crowds, one numbered and one too many to number.
oh dear I can babble on.. but who wants to tell only half the story?
To be continued.. (because this is too long.. but! can be read, or not read..) :gsmile:
I fear that Bushy was right Marie!...
...There are lots of end day interpretations...and I'm all 'end-dayed' out for now, having spent last night reading three books on the subject and now your interpretation (which were all vastly different) and everyone believes each symbol represents something else it seems.
Some believe in a global flood for example, others believe in a spiritual flood. I myself believe in both.
Part of my belief in both is due to outside sources where I notice there was indeed was a flood in 'the days of Noah' which was reported before the biblical texts in the epic of Giglamesh and other stories from across the globe (all branded 'myths' by modern science)....Anyway...
...I'll give it a rest for now as I'm only really looking for answers to very specific things so I will 'fine tune' my search a little more, but thank you for your input.
I have bad eyes and I'm afraid I can only read a limited amount of writing on a screen each day.
I'm sure your answers could be as valid as any other but I think this is another one of those searches I'm going to have to go alone...There are some books, many written by UR believers whom I greatly respect (but strongly disagree with)... To be true to myself I have to pass by their books or parts of what they write because (to me) they begin with false premises. (Such as the flood of Noah not being literal (and spiritual))...(And a zillion other little things). I can only be true to myself (as can we all).
(Bible) prophecy/eschatology - part 3 - A little known fact, seal 4, which is the 4th horseman of the apocalypse riding a pale horse of pestilence and according to what's in the world, includes chemical and,or biological.. By time the element of this seal is all said and done, it kills one fourth of the inhabitants of earth, thus the grave (wrongly translated hell or even hades - there is no Greek hades) follows after this 4th horseman of the apocalypse, including the mass grave. Or especially, the (mass) grave.
And seal 5, martyrdom, continues through the age and like the blood of Abel cries out to God! Seal 5, logically, is not literally martyrs under the altar calling out to God for centuries.. Unless by "under the altar" is meant death/graves, not consciously calling. Imprisoned. But like the blood of Abel.
Don't forget how the Lord said "all in-the-tombs will hear His voice and will come forth" - come forth from where? From the tombs/graves! (Jn.5:28) Was He
So this is where we are at - in the pause of seal 6. Verse 13:13 being the breaking open of seal 6 upon the Revelation scroll. The first occurrence of it. Which implies more of it to come.. Besides! the reading of the descriptions of the seven trumpets, which are in the seven seals. With the final occurrence at trumpet 7 (last trump) the seven bowls, the final results of mankind's doings upon Earth (of God's truth proving documentary).
The second lock - we've talked about the first one (seals described in their fullness so early on) and the half lock (of thinking the fire of 13:13 pinpoints an individual person, rather than a particular earthly office) hiding the HUGE event.
The "false prophet"/teacher/teaching/theory and "strong delusion" which has caused Western Civilization, once called Christendom, to "fall away" from the faith. And has "seated man in the seat of God" as highest power, "convincing himself that he is 'god'/higher power deciding good and evil. The false prophet "went before" these others. A sort of Baptist, preparing the way.
Lock number 2, is not knowing Revelation chapter 12 is an insert. A total history all on its own. Please read along with me. From "a great sign" - a virgin conceives the "manchild"/Son of man, the dragon (adversary) tries, via Herod the Great, to destroy Him but instead He is caught up to God and His throne, where He now sits at the right hand of God. The dragon being angered pursues the woman / the faith, now the mantle worn by Christianity - pursues the faith - aka, the razing of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., and the faith migrates (largely to Europe). There's war in heaven the faithful messengers (angels) against the 1/3 rebels - "the stars are angels" last verse of Rev. chapter 1. And the dragon&co. are no longer allowed access to heaven.
So, enraged the dragon persecutes (inquisitions) the woman/the faith. But she/it is given the two wings of an eagle to fly (sail!) to a new place. Then after being kept safe from the "face" of the dragon for 3.5 divisions of time, the serpent (guise of the dragon) spews/vomits a flood after the faith, trying to wash it from off the Earth.
But, "the Earth will open its mouth and will swallow the flood" - drought coming!! Then the dragon turns his attention (more fully) toward the rest of the faith's children, who have the commandments of God, and - by then - the testimony of Jesus. — For the Lord said - Mt.23:39 - "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you will not see Me again UNTIL you say, blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD."
Rev. chapter 12 - from the birth of Messiah (verse 1) to the gathering to Armageddon "to make war" - verse 17, next to last verse. Verse 18 being HOW the nations (world beast/body) will make war against the faith. And 13:1 basically is the same point.
So, with these things in mind Revelation can be read like anything else, lol. Fully revealing end time events.. Except, let me point out in Rev. chapter 9, "out of the smoke" of seal 6 continued comes what to John looked like locusts.. which swarm and hover.. and these are loud and can sting (fire?) from their head and tail - for 5 months torment mankind - they who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads - something all, especially in that day, should pray for? Two foreheads? Mystery Babble - all confusion; or seal of God. Clarity?
And the next trumpet? Lions - tanks? across the middle east toward Armageddon..
Are you tired of reading? lol. I'm tired of writing. Anybody can pm me any questions ..or post here.. But usually folks don't pay much attention to me.. from all over that is. God bless!
p.s - in Rev.22, last chapter - is some outside of the vision narrative! I think of as yet another 'key'.
P.S. that's alright, Shorazorblade time will out all things.. and I've saved these parts to publish in a book on lulu dot com.. just what all need, yet another book ABOUT scripture, in lieu of Scripture itself, lol. And of course others may possibly wander in here and read this and be able to recognize the landmarks when they come.
:gsmile: :Peace2:
pss., if you're ever of a mind to, check out my briefest summary here - https://bibleprophecy4today.blogspot.com/2016/10/book-of-revelation-in-pictures-lesson.html - Book of Revelation in Pictures :gsmile:
I hope no one minds my filling up this thread :doh: but I was on a roll.. I write things out best when answering a question, so I like to go with it. I did save these parts and plan to self publish it as an ebook once I figure out how to do it, post the pdf and link it.. and maybe later a booklet (and offer it for the printing cost).
I’m pretty sure I’m right about the eschatology of the bible. I always pray to not be inaccurate and feel I receive lots of confirmation. And I know it’s an important message as someday, during some generation, these things will occur. The only support I have however, is if someone interested actually reads it and thinks about it, they could see how the things I point out are so very logical and plain to see. (lol?)
And the thing is! As the capstone of the story of imperfection, the culmination of all history, it is HIGHLY Christian Universalist! In more ways than one..
Later! :hiya:
Quote from: marie glen on November 11, 2019, 07:51:27 PM
I hope no one minds my filling up this thread :doh: but I was on a roll.. I write things out best when answering a question, so I like to go with it. I did save these parts and plan to self publish it as an ebook once I figure out how to do it, post the pdf and link it.. and maybe later a booklet (and offer it for the printing cost).
I'm pretty sure I'm right about the eschatology of the bible. I always pray to not be inaccurate and feel I receive lots of confirmation. And I know it's an important message as someday, during some generation, these things will occur. The only support I have however, is if someone interested actually reads it and thinks about it, they could see how the things I point out are so very logical and plain to see. (lol?)
And the thing is! As the capstone of the story of imperfection, the culmination of all history, it is HIGHLY Christian Universalist! In more ways than one..
Later! :hiya:
I'm ashamed of myself for thinking I knew better than to read all of what you wrote the other day. Marie.
I will read it all eventually. I need frequent breaks from my pc screen nowadays though but I will read what you have written carefully...I'm not sure I'll agree. But...I'm not sure that matters at this point.
More and more i have come to see the bible in my own life...or in any human life...genesis..innocence...lost paradise...babylon...confusion...evil (job) testing...etc etc. I see revelation in the same way.
However I also believe that the 'physical comes first then the spiritual'...So...
...I will get back to you, but it might take me some time as I ponder these new ideas.
Little bites may be best anyway! These thoughts (if insights) are from thirty years or so of study, prayer and listening.. Here's a funny thing.. my eyes get tired and fuzzy.. and I always felt the urge to wash my eyes with my tea bag after making a cup of tea.. just the regular black tea. So one day I finally tried it, haha.. And whether it helps or is a sort of mind over matter, idk. But I now keep a small bottle of tea in the fridge and use it as eye drops in the morning.. Hoping I am keeping cataracts at bay! :dontknow: :laughing7:
..But I do know what you mean about eye strain! :doh: (I like emojis almost as much as words, lol.)
p.s. - absolutely NO reason to be ashamed! :girlheart:
Quote from: marie glen on November 11, 2019, 09:32:15 PM
Little bites may be best anyway! These thoughts (if insights) are from thirty years or so of study, prayer and listening.. Here's a funny thing.. my eyes get tired and fuzzy.. and I always felt the urge to wash my eyes with my tea bag after making a cup of tea.. just the regular black tea. So one day I finally tried it, haha.. And whether it helps or is a sort of mind over matter, idk. But I now keep a small bottle of tea in the fridge and use it as eye drops in the morning.. Hoping I am keeping cataracts at bay! :dontknow: :laughing7:
..But I do know what you mean about eye strain! :doh: (I like emojis almost as much as words, lol.)
I have blepharitus and it's made worse if i stare at a screen for very long.
My eyes get very dry etc and sometimes come out in big infected blisters etc...I've woken up with eyes like tennis balls in the past...So its best avoided.
Blink and blink a lot!
Like yourself, tea helps to ease them and it's full of natural antibiotics too.
But if i really want to get rid of the bleph.... Himalayan pink salt (a small amount) on a hot wet flannel....A few wipes with that a few times through the day and the 'dredded bleph' doesn't stand a chance.
Coconut oil helps too if my eyes get unbearably dry...I just ensure it is proper organic virgin coconut oil (no chems added etc). A tiny amount of that lubes the eyes well (darn handy for a staring competition) :laughing7: