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Discussions Relating to Universal Reconciliation => Christian Life => Topic started by: MusicLover123 on February 12, 2019, 02:11:32 AM

Title: Rest
Post by: MusicLover123 on February 12, 2019, 02:11:32 AM
I saw a quick vision last night. Just today I was given what it meant...

I saw this person, probably was between a teen and adult, trying to lift this container with a lot packed in it, really heavy. Either he was trying to lift it the whole time, or just trying to lift it off the ground or table. It suddenly dropped, and I heard a loud boom with it.

What I feel it means is me trying to do everything myself, trying to do all the works that Christ does, and not resting in that. Worrying all the time if I'm producing enough fruits, or asking for forgiveness enough times, or praying enough, or having enough faith. For me(and anyone else who struggles with this) it is necessary to rest in Jesus, and cast all our worries and cares upon Him. He is the only person who will not ever fail you.

Eph 2:10  For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

G4282
From G4253 and G2090; to fit up in advance (literally or figuratively): - ordain before, prepare afore.
Total KJV occurrences: 2

Joh 15:8  Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

This is really cool, someone pointed this out to me. We carry fruit, we don't produce fruit ourselves:

G5342
A primary verb (for which other and apparently not cognate ones are used in certain tenses only; namely οἴω oiō̄̄ and ἐνέγκω enegkō̄ to "bear" or carry (in a very wide application, literally and figuratively: - be, bear, bring (forth), carry, come, + let her drive, be driven, endure, go on, lay, lead, move, reach, rushing, uphold.
Total KJV occurrences: 64

Psa 46:10  Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

H7503
1d1) to let drop, abandon, relax, refrain, forsake

Neh 8:10 ...Don't be sorrowful, because the joy of the LORD is your strength."

H4581
From H5810; a fortified place; figuratively a defence: - force, fort (-ress), rock, strength (-en), (X most) strong (hold).
Total KJV occurrences: 36

I hear a lot of producing fruits/works, yet little recognition on who is actually doing them. Instead of resting in Jesus, trying to rely on self righteousness and self works. This will never produce true peace.

Pro 3:5  Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not depend on your own understanding. 
Pro 3:6  In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. 
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: rosered on February 12, 2019, 02:29:07 AM


Amen Bro!    :HeartThrob:    Such  a  wonderful post I needed to hear it  !
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: MusicLover123 on February 12, 2019, 02:56:27 AM
Amen sis!  :HeartThrob:

Also, to be content with what we are given, and to be patient with however God is making us into. Rushed paintings never are fully perfect.
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: Patinak on February 12, 2019, 06:25:23 AM
Quote from: rosered on February 12, 2019, 02:29:07 AM


Amen Bro!    :HeartThrob:    Such  a  wonderful post I needed to hear it  !
Yes, amen!
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: Ross on February 12, 2019, 03:21:39 PM
For me  the concept of us now being in a Sabbath as far as our work is concerned is referred to by Jesus!
This is why Jesus says our burden will be light since His work covers us like an umbrella.

Title: Re: Rest
Post by: sheila on February 12, 2019, 04:29:59 PM
 :2c:  fear...........no one can add a cubit by being anxious.we tend to go too far to the left or to the right....

He told me,'if I want you to do something I will cause you to do it"when I became anxious.

    Though thefig tree does not bud and there are no grapes on the vines,though theolive cropfails and the fields produce no food,

though there are no sheep in the pen,and no cattle in the stalls.


     YET,I WILL REJOICE IN THE LORD,I WILL BE JOYFUL IN GOD MY SAVIOUR[sure footed confidence/not anxious fear]
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: sheila on February 12, 2019, 05:19:56 PM
 :2c:another thing Iconsider in heavy loads..is the fact that most of Christendom/Babylon have taken the load/burden of sin OFF of Jesus

and placed it right back on the people.Thinking erroneously that your sins will be counted against you is a heavy load. we will carry

no load/burden into that Holy city.
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: MusicLover123 on February 12, 2019, 06:37:08 PM
Quote from: Ross on February 12, 2019, 03:21:39 PM
For me  the concept of us now being in a Sabbath as far as our work is concerned is referred to by Jesus!
This is why Jesus says our burden will be light since His work covers us like an umbrella.
Amen!

Forgot about this Scripture:

John 14
27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: sheila on February 12, 2019, 07:59:11 PM
 :thumbsup: :friendstu:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: marie glen on February 13, 2019, 12:18:48 AM
Amen! To all of the above!! Amen, ML, those who wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall walk and not faint, they shall run and not be weary, they shall Mount up on wings as eagles.. The Lord is my sheperd I shall not want.. Abide on the vine.. I am the vine you are the branches..

Amen sin taken off Jesus and put back on the backs of believers.. heavy load that only holds back, causes to stumble.
...Hebrews4 Jesus is the true Sabbath which the 7th day is a type and shadow of.. the law to us has been crucified (nailed to the cross with Jesus).

And Day of Atonement, middle Fall holy day (representing, and type/shadow of, I believe, "the judgment") was a day and observance of very strict, "no work".. (Lev.23).
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: sheila on February 13, 2019, 01:03:35 AM
exactly,Marie!!!
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: rosered on February 13, 2019, 01:45:38 AM
Quote from: marie glen on February 13, 2019, 12:18:48 AM
Amen! To all of the above!! Amen, ML, those who wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall walk and not faint, they shall run and not be weary, they shall Mount up on wings as eagles.. The Lord is my sheperd I shall not want.. Abide on the vine.. I am the vine you are the branches..

Amen sin taken off Jesus and put back on the backs of believers.. heavy load that only holds back, causes to stumble.
...Hebrews4 Jesus is the true Sabbath which the 7th day is a type and shadow of.. the law to us has been crucified (nailed to the cross with Jesus).

And Day of Atonement, middle Fall holy day (representing, and type/shadow of, I believe, "the judgment") was a day and observance of very strict, "no work".. (Lev.23).

Amen Sista Marie!!!!!!!  Love how you explained   this so clearly !  :friendstu:


Quote from: sheila on February 13, 2019, 01:03:35 AM
exactly,Marie!!!

     :dsunny:   :banana:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: MusicLover123 on February 13, 2019, 07:28:44 AM
Amen all!

Had this thought in the bathroom:

The faith of Christ will produce the works of Christ. The faith in the flesh will produce the works of the flesh. One leads to rest, the other leads to restlessness.
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: sheila on February 13, 2019, 02:20:14 PM
amenML.........increased faith,understanding,and Love is the fruit!!!!!Our'work'is to believe and grow! :girlheart:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: marie glen on February 13, 2019, 04:10:56 PM
 :cloud9: :cloud9:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: rosered on February 13, 2019, 05:06:51 PM

  :dsunny:    :HeartThrob:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: Patinak on February 15, 2019, 05:33:45 AM
Quote from: MusicLover123 on February 13, 2019, 07:28:44 AM
Amen all!

Had this thought in the bathroom:

The faith of Christ will produce the works of Christ. The faith in the flesh will produce the works of the flesh. One leads to rest, the other leads to restlessness.
In the bathroom? :laugh:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: MusicLover123 on February 15, 2019, 06:14:57 AM
Quote from: Patinak on February 15, 2019, 05:33:45 AM
Quote from: MusicLover123 on February 13, 2019, 07:28:44 AM
Amen all!

Had this thought in the bathroom:

The faith of Christ will produce the works of Christ. The faith in the flesh will produce the works of the flesh. One leads to rest, the other leads to restlessness.
In the bathroom? :laugh:
Actually yes!

See my bio quote? I also got that one in the bathroom.
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: guest6088 on February 17, 2019, 11:00:25 PM
I had some sort of strange thing happen to me this morning as i was waking up.

...It was like i was having a cloak wrapped around me. - Like I was being given a clock of some sort to put on or something?

Could that mean anything?
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: marie glen on February 18, 2019, 04:33:39 AM
Quote from: inspirationmoment101 on February 17, 2019, 11:00:25 PM
I had some sort of strange thing happen to me this morning as i was waking up.

...It was like i was having a cloak wrapped around me. - Like I was being given a clock of some sort to put on or something?

Could that mean anything?

:Chinscratch: I get a thing every so often like waves going over me.. Is it anything like that?  Otherwise I think of the "shield of faith".. which Paul would have been seeing in his mind something like armor.. Ephesians 6 says "put on the whole armor of God" and part of it is the shield of faith. Yet I've come to think of it, also, like the Lord's Spirit enveloping us.. or like a force field (yes, a force field) that the Spirit is to flow through us and so it rays or shines outward, forming a sort of force field! And like it says elsewhere we are to walk in the Spirit.. Or that is I figure to have the outraying of the Spirit we have to be receiving it.. And of course the LORD tells us, "you will find Me when you seek Me with your whole heart".. "Those that worship must worship in spirit and in truth" - spirit/genuine/sincerity.. And truth sets free..

puts our feet on the Rock..

He is our High Tower..

He is our Rock..

Shelter from the storm..

Sheltering under His wing..

Psalms 23 and 91.. every believer's favorites?

He is the potter, we are the clay.

Vessels.. we are "living stones of His temple.."

"Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise" Psalm 100:4


Love. We have one rule, which takes care of all others. Love God. His yoke is easy, His burden is light, because God is love.. love works no ill.. ..and Love has good fruit..

I keep learning over and over that it's all so simple.. yet intricate.. yet profound.. :HeartThrob: :cloud9:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: sheila on February 18, 2019, 04:58:10 AM
 :2c:  1.you may want to pray for some Holy watchers[guardian angels]to remove it.SOS5;6-8..my heart sank at his departure.....

it represents[cloak] a veiled missed opportunity in the spirit.Isaaih 25;7          OR

  2.  Zechariahch 3;1-6          :girlheart:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: marie glen on February 18, 2019, 05:35:00 AM
P.S.  :Chinscratch: ..the wedding garment..?

Matthew 22
The Parable of the Wedding Feast (Jesus is talking to the priests and Pharisees, 21:45; 22:1)
22 Jesus answered and spoke to them again by parables and said, 2 "The Kingdom of heaven is like this. Once there was a king who prepared a wedding feast for his son. 3 He sent his servants to tell the invited guests to come to the feast, but they did not want to come. [Followers of the law, self-righteous.] 4 So he sent other servants with this message for the guests: 'My feast is ready now... Come to the wedding feast!' 5 But the invited guests paid no attention and went about their business: one went to his farm, another to his store, 6 while others grabbed the servants, beat them, and killed them. 7 The king was very angry; so he sent his soldiers, who killed those murderers and burned down their city. 8 Then he called his servants and said to them, 'My wedding feast is ready, but the people I invited did not deserve it. 9 Now go to the main streets and invite to the feast as many people as you find.' 10 So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, good and bad alike; and the wedding hall was filled with people.

11 "The king went in to look at the guests and saw a man who was not wearing a wedding garment. 12 'Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?' the king asked him. But the man said nothing. 13 Then the king told the servants, 'Tie him up hand and foot, and throw him outside in the dark. There he will cry and gnash his teeth.'"

..Another parable.. when the runaway son came home, the father in the parable said .. bring out the best robe for him..
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: marie glen on February 18, 2019, 05:39:57 AM
Quote from: sheila on February 18, 2019, 04:58:10 AM
:2c:  1.you may want to pray for some Holy watchers[guardian angels]to remove it.SOS5;6-8..my heart sank at his departure.....

it represents[cloak] a veiled missed opportunity in the spirit.Isaaih 25;7          OR

  2.  Zechariahch 3;1-6          :girlheart:

Zechariah 3:1-6 :thumbsup:

Zechariah 3 Good News Translation (GNT)
The Prophet's Vision of the High Priest
3 In another vision the Lord showed me the High Priest Joshua standing before the angel of the Lord. And there beside Joshua stood Satan, ready to bring an accusation against him. 2 The angel of the Lord said to Satan, "May the Lord condemn you, Satan! May the Lord, who loves Jerusalem, condemn you. This man is like a stick snatched from the fire." (Reminds me of the "smoldering wick")

3 Joshua was standing there, wearing filthy clothes. 4 The angel said to his heavenly attendants, "Take away the filthy clothes this man is wearing." Then he said to Joshua, "I have taken away your sin and will give you new clothes to wear." (Like repairing the broken reed.. different thread..)

5 He commanded the attendants to put a clean turban on Joshua's head. They did so, and then they put the new clothes on him while the angel of the Lord stood there.

6 Then the angel told Joshua that 7 the Lord Almighty had said: "If you obey my laws and perform the duties I have assigned you, then you will continue to be in charge of my Temple and its courts, and I will hear your prayers, just as I hear the prayers of the angels who are in my presence. 8 Listen then, Joshua, you who are the High Priest; and listen, you fellow priests of his, you that are the sign of a good future: I will reveal my servant, who is called The Branch! 9 I am placing in front of Joshua a single stone with seven facets. I will engrave an inscription on it, and in a single day I will take away the sin of this land. 10 When that day comes, each of you will invite your neighbor to come and enjoy peace and security, surrounded by your vineyards and fig trees."
   :cloud9:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: guest6088 on February 18, 2019, 10:56:01 AM
I really appreciate this input...I don't know what it means.  It felt like I was being shielded from something, but I'm not sure.  I just felt a covering come down and cover me, like it was hiding me from something.

I feel it was something good (protective) but if not I'll just have to do my best.  Thank you both.  :Peace2:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: guest6088 on February 18, 2019, 11:03:15 AM
Quote3 In another vision the Lord showed me the High Priest Joshua standing before the angel of the Lord. And there beside Joshua stood Satan, ready to bring an accusation against him. 2 The angel of the Lord said to Satan, "May the Lord condemn you, Satan! May the Lord, who loves Jerusalem, condemn you. This man is like a stick snatched from the fire." (Reminds me of the "smoldering wick")


Marie...We're going to see 'smouldering wicks' and 'broken reeds' in everything now lol!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: guest6088 on February 18, 2019, 11:11:38 AM

Quote
:Chinscratch: I get a thing every so often like waves going over me.. Is it anything like that? 

No it was like a big cloak which came from up the way (higher than me) and it really felt to me 'temporary'? And for some sort of protection.  I could be wrong.  This is one of those cases I could have imagined it as I'd just woken up when it happened and was still dozey...but it's odd how I was imagining a cloak...its just not somthing I would normally think about lol!

QuoteLove. We have one rule, which takes care of all others. Love God. His yoke is easy, His burden is light, because God is love.. love works no ill.. ..and Love has good fruit..

Yes, so beautiful  :dsunny:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: sheila on February 18, 2019, 02:52:24 PM
Elijah's mantle was another cloak that come down from above.......EL_I_JAH=theLORD GOD..and of coarse it comes from above..

of course only God can reveal it to you. Ir ecieved things in my teens and 20"s that I was not given understanding of til my 40's :girlheart:
Title: Re: Rest
Post by: rosered on February 19, 2019, 11:20:18 AM


  :HeartThrob: 

  God knows what we need before we ask it   Marc . God is  a preparing  and its legendary !!!   :dsunny:
  I love  the responses Shelia and Marie   :girlheart: