Marriage in the Resurrection/Heaven?

[Lefein]

I didn't mean disrespect when I used the term Puritan.  It was the only word I could think of that held the image of a very bitter, and joyless sort of Christian, something like what I had read where if you ate a single bite before saying Grace, you where removed from the dinner table, and if a child spoke in church, or laughed he was whipped.  But, I'd have to find the source, it might not have been the Puritans at all.  

I do apologise though, for rudeness.  And I thank you for your encouragement.

[thinktank]

Helpful, less grumpy...But I still find myself held aback by the...Jesus = our provider of heavenly orgasm....I need not go further.

I do not know how any pastor on this earth has managed to shatter than revulsion!  And I am not even sure if it is sin, perversion, or just plain rebellion and hindrance towards my walk with God to have such an area, where I can actually be repulsed by fellowship with him.

It just makes my mind curdle for some reason...the reason probably obvious. >~<

I understand Jesus being first, but...Not to such an end that he becomes my lover? Surely? >~<

Note, I do not equate romance, and love between a husband and wife as sexuality, but in the sense that it is fundamentally wrong to be both Father, and Lover to your adopted son, or daughter, especially when your son, and daughter adopted are husband and wife....or 'where'...>_>

I really, really do apologise again though for being difficult.  But eventually, and surely there will be atleast some sort of thing to appear that rings with my spirit and doesn't bring out revulsion in it.

Though, I do understand the part about "upgrades" from earth to Heaven...But some upgrades just sound outright gross, or base to be honest.  I would be sickened (and am) at the thought that my Father in Heaven is presented as being more or less, a sovereign harem lord, that man was made to fill it.

My thoughts exactly. But if you calm down and think it through, you'll realize the foolishness of what you are saying as I once did. You are comparing Jesus to your wife, but jesus is only similar in type, for your wife is your wife. Jesus calls the church his bride for that is the best description, for one is closer to their wife than anyone else. I bet you tell things to Jesus that you don't tell your wife  :winkgrin:

Jesus is God and created the human body and so he knows you on an intimate basis in any case and will be with us in spirit throughout eternity. Jesus in body will live in heavenly Jerusalem for all to see, so I don't think church will be in bed with him there, wouldn't he be behaving like mystery babylon the " :winkgrin:

[lomarah]

I have been overcome by the Holy Spirit in various ways, whether so overcome I collapsed, was brought into higher realms, separated from my body, experiencing Him like electric rain to the verge of it being unbearable, and so on...these all testify of something greater to come when our bodies, instead of Adam, are born of God.

reFORMer I know what you mean. I have never experienced anything like the love of God. It is so much better than any type of romantic love down here. And in the purest way.

I am sort of sad to say that I hope there really won't be any more "romantic" or sexual "love". In my life this type of "love" has mostly been hurtful to me. I don't mean to say that God intended for sex and marriage to be hurtful because He certainly didn't. I feel grateful for those of you who have had God intended wonderful experiences in this area. I have longed for it myself. But nothing compares to the agape of God. And Lefein it is completely different from sex or romance, it is so much better, it is pure and holy and has nothing to do with sex.

I picture it as everyone living as brothers and sisters with one Father... not in the boring way you describe it, but everyone having close intimate relationships and loving without fear.

[Lefein]

Thinktank: I'm not yet married ;p  ...physically, but I am "believing" hard enough that I "speak as if it is done" I suppose haha.

But...I do admit my foolishness.  I really am not quite sure at all where all of this is coming from in me, to be honest.  I've wrestled with it for a very long time, with little headway is all.  I am hoping the breakthrough will be here at last.

I believe I distilled all of my struggle in this area down to a simple issue.  For as much as I walk with God, I have difficulty trusting him - difficulty trusting anyone really.  Without being able to trust God, there is a resentment towards him, and the churches who like to "throw it in my face" to trust him without really giving any practical support.  Marriage is intimate, and intimacy requires trust.  Trust in my life's experience, has been a luxury in rarity.

But, atleast I know the root of the issue in the verse itself now...At least as far as God's part, and reasoning in this goes.

Lomorah: It is not the sex, that bothered me, or even the physical pleasure.  It was the thought that any of my deepest relationships could/or will, be uprooted, and my identity "distorted", while the relationship is replaced with a sister, and a portion of that which makes me "me", and beautiful - abolished.

I don't like the idea of being a merely glorified "brother and sister" with everyone, it could be said that artists and lovers absolutely despise the idea of being "mediocre" (even a heavenly form of it) amidst the mass.  A great deal of that, is that here on earth I do not hold the familiar relationship (being a brother, and son) at all high.  I am not close to any of my siblings, neither my parents.  I don't desire it.

But it seems simply enough, that I have yet to be able to trust God in the matter...Which may yet be a clinging tumour from ET days.  "God isn't sovereign enough to do his own will, how can I trust him with my wants?"

It is unfortunately, a spiritual tumour that is stubborn, and doesn't want to go away.

...Does anyone have any practical advice on this problem?  Now that it comes up?

[WhiteWings]

Thinktank: I'm not yet married ;p

:thumbsup: I'm just in time to warn you...  :winkgrin:

...physically, but I am "believing" hard enough that I "speak as if it is done" I suppose haha.

No man is complete, until he is married -- then he's finished.

[Lefein]

I'm just in time to warn you...

Though it is a long story, I'm somehow actually aware (or to some degree)  of the difficulties of marriage without yet being so, I do believe God has a sense of humour when he puts me in the furnace... >_>'

No man is complete, until he is married -- then he's finished.

HA!  I see the joke you made there. :p  Finished...xD