One of my favorite verses is "Who is this that even the wind and the sea obey Him?"
1 John 3:12 1,2 says "when He appears.. we shall be like Him.."
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ET with their (pagan) 'hell' use it to account for evil in the world.. but no HE engineered things just so - so this world (tree?) of imPerfection would come about - and thoroughly teach its lesson!
If all are (ultimately) going to be like Him.. able to calm a storm, then logically I have to think all could also cause a storm.. Now just imagine all able to do this but they are of an imPerfect nature and character. :mshock: :faint: :eek:
I'm thinking every single heart / psyche in all of heaven and earth has to thoroughly understand good from evil. Thoroughly know beyond any minute doubt. Totally sealed up in that truth. And so imPerfection is being let to exist and run its course and thus all suffer (and there's death) and some sufferings are quite horrible.
But I believe He is Life itself.. that very spark and essence, which then it seems to me He then experiences and lives through all sufferings which ever occur!! :faint: :faint: :faint:
No need for a 'hell' to answer the question of evil (doing).
He has done and is doing all things Perfectly. In order (surely?) to bring about the very best.. (and of course perfect makes no mistakes and can never lose anything let alone anyone!)
And of all the verses (UR) both directly and implied, in 1 Timothy when it says, ..."He would have all to be saved... Christ died for all, to be testified to in due time.." (in its time) - I mean, whAt else could that be saying??!
"Jesus died for all, to be testified (declared?) in its time.."
the two wittnesses do testify that ALL ARE SAVED........that God has given the free gift of righteousness unto ALLmen.....[through one man
sinentered..thus through onerighteous man allmen..etc] ofJUDGEMENT..that the Princeof thisworld has been judged[satan]...and that
sinis a demon[sinis a demon crouching at the door..his desire is tomaster you..but you must master him]
that testimony of the 'Wordof God" and the Holy spirit...has been overcome andkilled..by men's carnal understanding.....but .....
the time comes.....when the truth of the salvation of allmen lay as without life in the street...then the spirit of life will enter and
they will standontheir feet...and a voice from heaven will be heard...to COME UP HERE...to His Higher understanding.
union/agreement of thought/truth with God..is part of being one with Him...and we will all be one with God/Jesus.........
the spirit of the truth...the weddingsupper is the TRUE sayings of God..not doctrinesof men or partial light..or looking through a glass
darkly.
only in the end will all mysterys be revealed...the REVELATION OF CHRIST...only in His appointed tme.
the Day of our salvationgets brighter and brighter. and no our salvation does not depend on all of us understanding everything..prfectly
on this side..but the more wehave of Jsus Christ...the more comfort,peace and joy we will expierence. :2
I have heard ,'Believe me..trust me..love me" and also this 'you have nothing to fear..the battle is not yours..this is between God
and satan right now" if they attack..itis not at my command..they will even fall on accountof you"
Comfort ye,comfort ye my people.........
Quote from: sheila on October 27, 2017, 01:47:58 AM
only in the end will all mysterys be revealed...the REVELATION OF CHRIST...only in His appointed time.
" ...only in His appointed time."
Key Point!!!
I have watched mysteries and tried to solve said mystery; when think I have worked out the mystery I try to tell the wife, and she does not want me to, so that she will also work out that mystery, otherwise there is no sense of success/ability.
Quote from: marie glen on October 26, 2017, 03:37:17 PM
"Jesus died for all, to be testified (declared?) in its time.."
Quote from: marie glen on October 26, 2017, 03:37:17 PM
He has done and is doing all things Perfectly. In order (surely?) to bring about the very best.. (and of course perfect makes no mistakes and can never lose anything let alone anyone!)
There is no margin of error. His patience, as this unfolds before the eyes of man to expand our horizons beyond what we imagine, is the uplifting encouraging aspect of us literally being raised as His siblings before our loving Father.
The calm sea is I.M.O what Peter had demonstrated when attempting to walk on the water by himself- when he was distracted by the surroundings and doing his own thing he sank, when Christ pulled Him up Christ said to him not to look at the stuff around but to focus solely on Christ- Christ literally pulls us out of the storms of this life and transfers us to His kingdom as we learn and are called to/by Him. :dsunny: :banana: :cloud9:
Beautiful thoughts :HeartThrob: Marie , Shelia and Ross ,
I know that day[DAY OF THE LORD ] there will be no more sea !!! , many tongues peoples and nations of those dead , even though they are mortal that the great whore [sits ] controls ...Rev 17 holding the the dead sea captive ... till she is no more
The Victory of the Lamb
...17For God has put it into their hearts to carry out His purpose by uniting to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18And the woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth."
Rev 20 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne. And there were open books, and one of them was the book of life. And the dead were judged according to their deeds, as recorded in the books.
13The sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead, and each one was judged according to his deeds. 14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire....
Revelation 21 A New Heaven and a New Earth
1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband....
I long for that GREAT Day when God will be all in all .............. :HeartThrob:
Quote from: rosered on October 27, 2017, 12:35:34 PM
I long for that GREAT Day when God will be all in all .............. :HeartThrob:
:dsunny: That is the true hope/expectation- ergo the GREAT expectation. :cloud9:
re; ..only inthe end...in His appointed time.the very reason we must be faithFULL unti lthe end...to see the salvation of GOD. :2c:
Quote from: sheila on October 28, 2017, 05:54:51 AM
re; ..only inthe end...in His appointed time.the very reason we must be faithFULL unti lthe end...to see the salvation of GOD. :2c:
Quote from: rosered on October 27, 2017, 12:35:34 PM
Beautiful thoughts :HeartThrob: ...Shelia and Ross ,
A-men!! And Rose! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: