From what I am aware of, Presbyterians are rooted in Calvinism. But I was wondering if the Evangelical and Fundamentalist Churches are based in more Arminian or Calvinist theology.
Are Catholics, Lutherans, Orthodox and Anglicans classified as Arminian?
QuoteIs Calvinism still practiced today? What about Arminianism?
If I check Internet fora and sites I think Both are still practiced by many.
QuoteAre Catholics classified as Arminian?
For me personally, yes. They have many saints and rituals that can keep you out of hell.
That's human influence that Calvinism doesn't have.
If Im correct, the Fundamentalist Churches believe in Eternal Security(Once Saved always Saved) belief, also called "Born again". But Im wondering if they believe in Predestination or not, considering that they seem to have a pretty Calvinistic attitude. Plus most of the Puritanism from the 1700's I think were Calvinists, and are the roots of Fundamentalist Christianity.
According to the Simpsons. :laughing7:
Quote from: Universalist Catholic on June 17, 2010, 04:53:50 AM
If Im correct, the Fundamentalist Churches believe in Eternal Security(Once Saved always Saved) belief, also called "Born again". But Im wondering if they believe in Predestination or not, considering that they seem to have a pretty Calvinistic attitude. Plus most of the Puritanism from the 1700's I think were Calvinists, and are the roots of Fundamentalist Christianity.
According to the Simpsons. :laughing7:
OK, let me take a shot at this. As one who's been in various denominations through the years and read a bit about these things. Being born again and OSAS are not necessarily believed to be synonomous.
First of all, Jesus said to see the Kingdom of God, one
must be born again (spiritually born anew from above). And He said to not marvel that He said this.
OSAS is usually associated with the Baptists and Presbyterians, although many believers from various walks(including myself) believe that once God saves someone and seals them with His Spirit, He doesn't take it back. There are various flavors of this/minutae if one digs into deeper levels.
Many denominations believe one can "lose" their salvation if they don't continue to do the proper works, which is the opposite of OSAS. I would suggest the Catholics fall in this category at least to some extent, as well as many Protestants (Church of God, Assembly of God, many Charismatics, etc.)
As far as Calvinism/predestination, generally that's found amongst Presbyterians and SOME Baptists - not all - in fact it can be a conflict within Baptist circles, as some call themselves "Reformed" [Calvinists], while some hold to the Arminian view, i.e., it's up to you to choose Jesus. Some [ME] see a "mixture" of the two, seeing that there's predestination, but that it's God that gives the faith to believe as a totally free gift, as He calls and chooses - AND that those not saved [predestined] in this lifetime WiLL be saved in the next, because ultimately, ALL are predestined to be rejoined to the Father.
It's in the Book. Whosover calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13. If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in our hearts that God raised Him from the dead, we shall be saved. Romans 10:9
I believe God gives that faith to believe to whom and when He chooses. Some now, the rest later.