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Discussions Relating to Universal Reconciliation => Christian Life => Topic started by: micah7:9 on July 24, 2013, 06:41:06 PM

Title: How ugly is man?
Post by: micah7:9 on July 24, 2013, 06:41:06 PM
I wonder sometimes as I'm sure some do as well when we read of the atrocities that the human being can sink to. How can a human being do such horrible things?
Well the Lord God knew from His starting, that the human breathing creature would have what I will call ugly, embedded in his flesh.
We wonder how a human can sink to some lows, but the Creator knew what His creation would be capable of. We know man, without the knowledge of the act, can kill one of his own.

Rom 7:18  For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

Lev. 19: 11,13,17,20,28,29,31,33,35. Lev. 20:6,9,11,12,13,14,15,17,19,20,21. Lev. 21:9
Title: Re: How ugly is man?
Post by: sheila on July 24, 2013, 07:03:32 PM
   I know Micah....but remember....God can turn ugly ducklings into beautiful swanns........

    lumps of black coal into diamonds,and Adam from ugly sinner man,into sons of the living God... :HeartThrob:

         NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD.....


    ps...I liken my time here in this realm..as my 'worm/caterpillar stage"  looking toward full

   metamorphosis[changed in the twinkling of an eye]
Title: Re: How ugly is man?
Post by: sheila on July 24, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
p.s.   there is one cell in the body of the caterpillar....that when it becomes active[divine nature activated]

  begins and completes metamorphisis for the whole body.

     I liken Jesus to that 'special cell'..
Title: Re: How ugly is man?
Post by: micah7:9 on July 24, 2013, 07:30:12 PM
I know about the change, all I was trying to say is that when we see humans being ugly, is that it's all in the duckling and the swan, and only Jesus can change it and keep it pretty. :HeartThrob:
Title: Re: How ugly is man?
Post by: Lazarus Short on July 24, 2013, 07:38:03 PM
Quote from: sheila on July 24, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
p.s.   there is one cell in the body of the caterpillar....that when it becomes active[divine nature activated]

  begins and completes metamorphisis for the whole body.

     I liken Jesus to that 'special cell'..

Really?!  That's like the bit of leaven that leavens the whole lump of dough.  Perhaps Christ in You is like that special cell:  Christ in Sheila, Christ in Micah, Christ in ____________ [your name here].

Micah, I was thinking about this earlier this morning, in response to a Facebook post.  I saw a movie years ago, Lion of the Desert.  It was a patriotic, nationalistic Quaddifi-funded epic about the Italian invasion of Libya ~1925.  It is a truly great movie, and surprisingly, it offers quite a measure of sympathy to several of the Italian enemies - we see them as human beings, not cut-outs.  Anyway, close to the start, we meet an rather plain-looking woman, whose husband has been killed fighting the Italians.  As I said, she was not much to look at, but by the end of the film, I felt love for her character.  At the end, she was being hung for some minor rule infraction in the internment camp she was held in.  She prayed with the noose around her neck, "Thank you for the life that You give us."  Then some soldier kicked the chair out from under her.  The movie offers us many other examples of the best and worst of humanity, just as life itself does.  Take  :HeartThrob: however, for there is still much good in this world, it just goes largely unpublicized.
Title: Re: How ugly is man?
Post by: micah7:9 on July 24, 2013, 07:47:50 PM
I will call that "cell" Grace.

My point is that the ugly that what seems deplorable in todays news, should not shock us, like how could he/they/she do such a thing. Yes, when we are drawn, we are changed and able to overcome.

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators [Gk: paramours], nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [Gk: catamites], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [Gk: sodomites] nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God" (I Cor. 6:9-10).
1Co 6:11  And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

What are paramours, catamites, and sodomites?

paramours (King James, 'fornicators')-Strong's #4205 pornos "to sell, a male prostitute (as venal), a debauchee (libertine): fornicator, whoremonger."

prostitute: "one who solicits and accepts payment for sex" (American Heritage College Dictionary).

venal: "capable of betraying honor, duty, or scruples for a price, corruptible" (AHCD).

debauchee/debauchery: "to corrupt morally, to lead away from excellence or virtue, indulge in dissipation [lacking moral restraint, indulgence in sensual pleasure], orgies [unrestrained sexual activities],"

libertine: "one without moral restraint" (AHCD)

catamites (King James, 'effeminate')-Strong's #3120 malakos "soft, fine clothing, a catamite, effeminate."

catamite: "a boy who has a sexual relationship with a man" (AHCD).

effeminate: "having characteristics more often associated with women than a man" (AHCD).

sodomites (King James, 'abusers of themselves with mankind'-Strong's #733 arsenokoites "a sodomite, defile self with mankind."

The elements of the Greek word arsenokoites are "male-lier"-A male who lies with a male. "Male bed partners"--Wycliffe Bible Dictionary.

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even [1] their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also [2] the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense [penalty] of their error which was meet [due]" (Rom. 1:26-27).



Title: Re: How ugly is man?
Post by: WhiteWings on August 14, 2013, 02:04:29 PM
Mic, lemme answer your question with a question. Do you have a  lot of broken mirrors?

:friendstu:
Title: Re: How ugly is man?
Post by: micah7:9 on August 14, 2013, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on August 14, 2013, 02:04:29 PM
Mic, lemme answer your question with a question. Do you have a  lot of broken mirrors?

:friendstu:

Yes, I keep one hidden, checking periodically. :doh: