When I think of being permanently in a heavenly state, it would have to be a place where there is uninterrupted peace, rest, beauty, music and joy. I never imagine the resurrection as being anything like living in this world where I will be cooking and cleaning and tired. But this world gives us glimpses of heaven:
Maybe it is kind of like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ItNxpwChE&feature=related
The last time I tried to envision it I had thoughts of flying through the heavens after the coming of the Lord in the air to "catch up" the body of Christ, and all around us in the distance were many different and beautiful heavenly cities or kingdoms , and we were making our way somewhere. I don't know where because my dream ended before we arrived anywhere. :happy3:
Quote from: Raggedy Anne on August 15, 2009, 06:01:34 AM
When I think of being permanently in a heavenly state, it would have to be a place where there is uninterrupted peace, rest, beauty, music and joy. I never imagine the resurrection as being anything like living in this world where I will be cooking and cleaning and tired. But this world gives us glimpses of heaven:
Maybe it is kind of like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ItNxpwChE&feature=related
Ok, I just literally laughed out loud. Not 5 minutes before I was just talking about how my mom used to love to bake things. I was just thinking how I would give anything to just be in the kitchen with my mom baking these little butter cookies that we used to decorate together. Little snowmen and bells, reindeer, etc. I thought to myself.."Oh God, I don't know what it's going to be like... I have no idea, but please just let me be able to experience that scene with my mom again... just baking cookies with my mom." (Most of the time my mind forces my heart not to think those things, but...then I think "with God, anything is possible"...and my heart kind of sighs a peaceful, hopeful sigh and I tell my mind to shut up.) hope that made sense.
I have so many thoughts of heaven...but what it all seems to go back to is those who I have loved that have passed on. As much as I am so in love with His creation, as much time as I spend thinking about exploring all of His creation...all of that majesty almost pales into comparison with the longing in my heart to just be with my loved ones again, enjoying the simplest of pleasures together. The love in my heart.... for them, it's my biggest treasure in heaven. And it builds up a little more every single day. I would be happy in heaven living in a cardboard box if I'm surrounded by my loved ones. Yes, I know... we will ALL be family. OF course. But we all have "our people" too.
I miss a lot of my people. Treasures in heaven, to me have a lot to do with "my people".
Well... I love this topic. I think about it every day.
I would love to just explore.
So much on earth that I haven't explored.
To just have the time... to have no fear... and to just explore what HE has created.
ahhh heaven. To explore God for eternity.
Sparrow -
That's funny! Okay, baking cookies I can go with - (chocolate chip, please). But I don't want to have to cook dinner when I'm tired and sick. I would enjoy reliving the sharing of a beautiful dinner with my family, my grandma and mother and brothers and sisters. But it's hard for me to imagine it all fitting together. For instance, my dad died at age 36 - so he seems so far removed from being around the table in my mind. And we had some unpleasant times around the table when I was a kid as well - times I don't want to re-live.
As for my family - some of us are closer to our "family" than others. I do love my family, but I love my brothers/sisters in Christ most of all and don't always feel that close connection with my immediate family members - even some who are Christian because they don't understand me or my beliefs about God. Perhaps I should be worried about that.
Seriously though, I don't want to be mortal again when I pass away. I want to just be free from all types of bondage and somehow be able to travel at the speed of light/thought.
Full-Armor, thanks for sharing your dream. I love those spiritual dreams.
:cloud9: My :2c:.......heaven is not a place, but a state of being made possible by being baptized and walking in His Spirit.
If you put off this body (speaking to believers here) you would be surprised to find you were 'in heaven' all along, but the denseness of this body and the spirit of forgetfulness we were given when we were lowered into this bondage of corruption, prevent us from entering back into that realm WITH UNDERSTANDING/PERCEPTION of it, without going thru His Spirit first.
This is why He is the mediator between man and God the Father, and why none can go to the Father without first going thru the Spirit of the Son. Blessings.....
I think of
thy will be done on earth [as it is in heaven]
heaven on earth
Quote from: Molly on August 15, 2009, 11:05:05 PM
I think of
thy will be done on earth [as it is in heaven]
heaven on earth
:HeartThrob:
.
I have often said "I don't need to go anywhere NEW" "I just need
to get back to what I have "already" seen and STAY THERE!!!
My used to be pastor said God had "spoiled me" ........maybe so.
But no one, including him, ever wanted my cross! ha ha
I have "seen" many things supernatural. God Himself "is" SUPERNATURAL. Anne, you won't be "cooking" and you sure
won't be sick.
I have seen God show places that are ON THIS EARTH, with the
SPIRIT so on it that it was "changed" ......from "earthly" to "heavenly."
I saw my mother and daddy's homeland where I grew up like that
more than once. I saw my mother standing in the kitchen window
and she was young, 23. Later I learned she was that age when I
was born. Supernatural things are hard to "explain."
I really pray that God gives supernatural seeing to His people, it
should be the normal thing for Christians........
Do I believe there is a literal City.??? I know there is a Spiritual meaning to it, but I STILL HOPE SO. and the Bible says it has not
entered into the mind of man what God has prepared for them
that love and wait for HIM. So I don't think He will disappoint any.
Quote from: Cardinal on August 15, 2009, 10:00:35 PM
:cloud9: My :2c:.......heaven is not a place, but a state of being made possible by being baptized and walking in His Spirit.
If you put off this body (speaking to believers here) you would be surprised to find you were 'in heaven' all along, but the denseness of this body and the spirit of forgetfulness we were given when we were lowered into this bondage of corruption, prevent us from entering back into that realm WITH UNDERSTANDING/PERCEPTION of it, without going thru His Spirit first.
This is why He is the mediator between man and God the Father, and why none can go to the Father without first going thru the Spirit of the Son. Blessings.....
:thumbsup:
It is obvious that no one of mankind has a corner from which to stand in our finite mortal condition and see all the infinite truth of the Heavenly state, yes we each I believe receive glimpes or revelations of what we shall be in part and that along with what is hoped or longed for also plays a part. to me it is a place within us and also in the whole universe, it is not limited to a physical place because heaven is of the spiritual .
What we are shown in scripture itself about the ressurection isn't that many verse yet the vast differances between that body and this mortal body in this world can't be measured by us or perfectly described in words,
I see a restful refreshing state of exsistance
without the wars, without manual toil to maintain it, make a living or to live, and a place of belonging that we never really find or have while in this transitory world we now live in, everything here is temporary
the good things and the not so good things,
the fiery trials that we pass through shall be behind us.
I think the only treasures we have now that shall not perish is our love for others, our fellow man and for the other living creatures, the birds, the fish, all of these, all material possesions, money, and things perish, we won't have any use for those things when we do leave this world, and many of us live already without very much of these things to do with anyway.
Peace,
Fire Walker
I see an uncorrupted Earth...in all its splendour
no violence, no strife, no need, life in abundance - natural and spiritual, the lion lying with the lamb, no death or decay, rest, peace, righteousness
I think it will look like my childhood memories.
Somehow I only remember sunny days. (and I can tell you they are quite unusal here)
Forest. Creek. Birds. And a HiFi set :laughing7:
Basicly I want to live outside the city :mshock:
Heaven is when you're finally in the plan of God for your life, and are experiencing His blessings because you're where ground zero is at for His blessings. For some people, that's going to mean moving to the last place on earth they want to move to and starting a Church. For others that's going to be His choice in where you live, even if He places you in a quarter of a million square foot mansion that mortifies your religious pride everyday of your life 'cause you're being seen in that, and what are folks going to think of you, et. al. Having never personally given a damn about square footage, finally having some space to walk in when it's raining outside and to be able to share that with the love of my life would just be gravy, but for others that think that God created abundance for pimps and child molesters, then it genuinely becomes the crucifixion of their flesh and a temporary burning Hell for Him to place them in, until they get over all of their prejudices that aren't any different to Him than the gender, religious, and racial prejudices that stink just as badly to Him.
For them, it wouldn't be thinking lavishly, but Biblically per Psalm 112, et. al. But with willing obedience comes those green pastures and still waters and peace like you've never known before. For others, Heaven winds up being where all of their giftings are genuinely used to the highest glory of God's Name. For others, per God's leading, it may be a career choice. They've always been a college professor at the graduate level and the grench that stole Christmas and God's leaning on them about becoming an elementary school teacher and their first thought after they've spewed what they were drinking or eating all over the place at the mere thought of that is the fact that they won't be able to devote all of their personal study time to writing and research on the level that they're accustomed to. For others, it means no more celebacy. And that one's probably the biggest scare of them all, when you start feeling like you're getting a little set in your ways and wanna have the right to get up on the wrong side of the bed, and eventually start having thoughts of mischeviously being the spooky one in the middle of the block with all of those cats!! And God's all like "no, I'm not letting you get weird and creepy, you're going to remember what it's like to love again, etc." So, Heaven is transition thru the Hell into what He really intends for your life.
And there are a few places in the Old Testament that mention the "heaven of heavens," implying somewhere as much out there as right here and within the willing and obedient heart. The multiverse is just sooooooooo huge -- don't discount certain things just 'cause of religious oversimplifications that limited it to what's out there somewhere 'cause then you're horribly oversimplifying. Heaven is still that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, according to the book of Revelation, but we're in just as much error as the traditionalist if we make it an either/or or exclusively figurative or whatever. For others, Heaven is anything/everything outside of the ages of ages in every direction. For others, it's getting to know each and every single life that God's ever Created, here, anywhere else, and anywhen else :Sparkletooth:
Quote from: WhiteWings on August 27, 2009, 04:02:29 PM
I think it will look like my childhood memories.
Somehow I only remember sunny days. (and I can tell you they are quite unusal here)
Forest. Creek. Birds. And a HiFi set :laughing7:
Basicly I want to live outside the city :mshock:
Classic. :laughing7: :icon_king:
Quote from: noname on August 27, 2009, 02:19:40 PM
I see an uncorrupted Earth...in all its splendour
no violence, no strife, no need, life in abundance - natural and spiritual, the lion lying with the lamb, no death or decay, rest, peace, righteousness
Me too, amen! The natural world shows forth the glory of God. There will be a New Nature within us and without. It's really beyond my ability to think of what will be, and the scriptures say that as well.... "Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen"Ephesians3:20,21
Quote from: Raggedy Anne on August 29, 2009, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: noname on August 27, 2009, 02:19:40 PM
I see an uncorrupted Earth...in all its splendour
no violence, no strife, no need, life in abundance - natural and spiritual, the lion lying with the lamb, no death or decay, rest, peace, righteousness
Me too, amen! The natural world shows forth the glory of God. There will be a New Nature within us and without. It's really beyond my ability to think of what will be, and the scriptures say that as well.... "Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen"Ephesians3:20,21
Amen!! :HeartThrob: :icon_flower: :HeartThrob:
I'm not really sure exactly what I think of Heaven, you know, exactly what or where it'll be, but I saw a preview for this movie called The Lovely Bones, by Peter Jackson, and inside the trailer were scenes of what I HOPE Heaven will be like. (Keep in mind, I didn't like ALL the scenes of "Heaven," or what's supposed to be like Heaven, but it was very cool.) Plus, it looks like a sweet movie. :laughing7:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/thelovelybones/medium.html
Tim,
Sure looks like it will be an interesting film. Thanks for sharing it, I'd not heard about it before.
:winkgrin:
Anne
Quote from: sparrow on August 29, 2009, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: Raggedy Anne on August 29, 2009, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: noname on August 27, 2009, 02:19:40 PM
I see an uncorrupted Earth...in all its splendour
no violence, no strife, no need, life in abundance - natural and spiritual, the lion lying with the lamb, no death or decay, rest, peace, righteousness
Me too, amen! The natural world shows forth the glory of God. There will be a New Nature within us and without. It's really beyond my ability to think of what will be, and the scriptures say that as well.... "Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen"Ephesians3:20,21
Amen!! :HeartThrob: :icon_flower: :HeartThrob:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
QuoteSomehow I only remember sunny days.
those are my fav days as well...
here near my spec of the woods we have this place that would be heaven to me...
it has a sub-tropical climate, always sunny except for cooling thunderstorms...lily white beaches and a pleasant warm ocean with nice breaking waves in which you can play and bodysurf for hours without getting all cold or freckled up...
the beach is right next to a forest teaming with all kind of life...golden backed apes, troops of monkeys...all kinda weird looking insects...spiders resembling alien aircraft (to look at and not to touch)...and the ocean sports a few reefs where you can go and explore the wonderful sea-life...the only clothing you need are shorts and flip-flops...all day and night
the locals are friendly and sells all kinds of sweet tasty fruit...and the hot favourite is pineapples peeled in a way that you can hold it and eat it like an ice cream...
i'd like to live there when the spiders are not threatening anymore :happygrin:
:cloud9: Geez, I like the sound of your neck of the woods better........sans the alien aircraft looking spiders, of course...........S-H-U-D-D-E-R. :grin: Blessings....
noname,
For all your spider problems..... :laughing7:
(http://www.4tnz.com/files/spiderman_raid.jpg)
No one can imagine with their minds what the completion of all things will truly be like because all we have to guage it by is this earth and this realm we're in now, which is still under the curse.
But for me, I believe that we'll no longer be governed by the laws of the realm of knowledge of good and evil. But we'll see the return of our original state before Adam went through the threshold of the natural realm.
The natural will no longer be the dominant realm. Just as right now, the spirit is invisible to us and the natural is all we can see, I believe that will all be reversed and natural will become invisible and spirit will be all that we see.
The making of all things new is not saying God will make all new things. I believe what's being made new is our perspectives of what already exists.
No need for a can of RAID in heaven. Some people are not now afraid of spiders. They are God's creatures, after all. It is kind of funny when you think about it how much we fear insects even though we are giants compared to them. And I don't just mean the ones that are poisonous. I usually get pretty wound up if a big roach shows up right in front of my eyes. :-) And I don't much like thinking about worms or flies. But then I do like lots of bugs - bees, ladybugs, caterpillers, butterflies, dragon-flies. Why don't they upset me? Could that phenomenon be compared with the way the world discriminates against people who aren't particularly goodlooking. I think "beautiful" people (physical beauty) are treated better by the world. Why is that?
I digress.
Anne
Quote from: Raggedy Anne on September 02, 2009, 11:22:01 PM
No need for a can of RAID in heaven. Some people are not now afraid of spiders. They are God's creatures, after all. It is kind of funny when you think about it how much we fear insects even though we are giants compared to them. And I don't just mean the ones that are poisonous. I usually get pretty wound up if a big roach shows up right in front of my eyes. :-) And I don't much like thinking about worms or flies. But then I do like lots of bugs - bees, ladybugs, caterpillers, butterflies, dragon-flies. Why don't they upset me? Could that phenomenon be compared with the way the world discriminates against people who aren't particularly goodlooking. I think "beautiful" people (physical beauty) are treated better by the world. Why is that?
I digress.
Anne
I totally agree with all you've said. Plus on the new earth, there will be no harm.
Perhaps creatures will have new jobs to do.
I love bugs now.
I used to be a big bug hater.
But God gave me love for them.
:icon_flower:
p.s. there are though, still a few kinds I totally go :eek: over...
but I try not to do my first instinct and kill them, I try to just shuffle them out the door.
Nathan... when you talk of natural and spiritual...
what exactly are you referring to?
Why would anything need to be invisible?
I'm not following you on that one.
I think I get a little perplexed at all the talk of "no more natural", what does that mean to people?
:cloud9: I'm sorry, but having been bit by a brown recluse and been only 2 hours away from dying according to my physician at the time (God healed me), I have requested of the Lord only half kidding, that if I make it to be a manifested Son of God in fullness, that my first "official" act will be to make all poisonous spiders and snakes into harmless bunnies. Works for me...... :laughing7: Blessings....
PS. I should point out that the bunnies part is an addition after much softening of my heart.....I originally was more in the ET mode on those :winkgrin:
Quote from: Nathan on September 02, 2009, 09:49:10 PM
No one can imagine with their minds what the completion of all things will truly be like because all we have to guage it by is this earth and this realm we're in now, which is still under the curse.
But for me, I believe that we'll no longer be governed by the laws of the realm of knowledge of good and evil. But we'll see the return of our original state before Adam went through the threshold of the natural realm.
The natural will no longer be the dominant realm. Just as right now, the spirit is invisible to us and the natural is all we can see, I believe that will all be reversed and natural will become invisible and spirit will be all that we see.
The making of all things new is not saying God will make all new things. I believe what's being made new is our perspectives of what already exists.
Agree with Nathan. I "see" what he is saying. I believe we will
see inside those mansions that Jesus described......behind the veil,
in my Father's House are MANY..........Jesus reached the place.....when
He said I am ONE with my Father, earlier He had said, My Father is
Greater, but He grew in stature spiritually, and then said "In that day,
"ye" shall know ....I am in you, you in me, etc." How is it they said
that we shall know? "We will come to you!"
I believe in "seeing" into the supernatural. It should be a common
occurence .........we just have not been taught that. People think you
looney........
You know I was talking to someone today and I typed these words.
I believe that the manifestation of the Sons of God is in the "heavens."
Spirit to Spirit. One Son to Another. Same Spirit.
When we are born again, we can "see" into the Kingdom.
And when we overcome, we "enter" ........the Kingdom.
Jesus is our Pattern..........it is possible! With God, all things are
possible.
Quote from: sparrow on September 03, 2009, 02:04:06 AM
p.s. there are though, still a few kinds I totally go :eek: over...
but I try not to do my first instinct and kill them, I try to just shuffle them out the door.
Nathan... when you talk of natural and spiritual...
what exactly are you referring to?
Why would anything need to be invisible?
I'm not following you on that one.
I think I get a little perplexed at all the talk of "no more natural", what does that mean to people?
That's my whole point. Our imaginations can't comprehend what the "spirit realm" is like because for me, it's what Paul was talking about when not only did he say the carnal mind is always at emnity with God (at war with) but also that our minds are not subject to the law of God . . .neither "can" they be. Meaning that our minds can't comprehend the governing laws of the Spiritual realm because that's not what they were created to do. Our minds were made to allow us to operate in this natural realm. But they don't have the capacity to understand the spirit realm.
Then why bother? Because spiritual truth comes by way of revelation from the Father. It's the Peter experience where Jesus asked him "Who do YOU say that I am" and God revealed to Peter right then and there that Jesus was the Christ. Peter didn't learn it, and he didn't understand it either, but he did see it because God revealed it to him.
Through our intimacy with the Father, revealtion of the nature of Jesus will manifest. "in" that revelation of Jesus, understanding will then take affect because that's the process of having a renewed mind.
Hebrews 11 and the first part of 12 talks about the fact that we are encompassed about by a great cloud of witnesses. Can you see them? No. Why? Because they are on the other side of this natural realm we live, but they are still all around us. "That's" what I'm talking about when I speak of the spiritual realm. That's where God "is". "This" realm we live in now is the lower realm. When Scripture states that Jesus came to the "lower" parts of the earth in Ephesians 4 speaks to the fact that the natural is "under" the authority of the spiritual.
When Adam walked with God in the "cool" of the day, it literally means he walked with God in the "spirit" of the day. The garden of Eden is a spiritual place . . .it was before the fall. It was why he was removed from the garden. Because he chose to eat from the tree of knowledge, that tree is more than just a tree, it was a gateway into the natural realm. That was why God told him not to eat of it. It's the realm of death and decay.
But we've been given the unique advantage through the finished work of the cross to walk in the spirit while still being exposed to the realm of the natural. When walking in the spirit, we are given the authority to rule in the natural. Bad things still happen here, but they no longer have us under bondage any more.
Quote from: Nathan on September 03, 2009, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: sparrow on September 03, 2009, 02:04:06 AM
p.s. there are though, still a few kinds I totally go :eek: over...
but I try not to do my first instinct and kill them, I try to just shuffle them out the door.
Nathan... when you talk of natural and spiritual...
what exactly are you referring to?
Why would anything need to be invisible?
I'm not following you on that one.
I think I get a little perplexed at all the talk of "no more natural", what does that mean to people?
That's my whole point. Our imaginations can't comprehend what the "spirit realm" is like because for me, it's what Paul was talking about when not only did he say the carnal mind is always at emnity with God (at war with) but also that our minds are not subject to the law of God . . .neither "can" they be. Meaning that our minds can't comprehend the governing laws of the Spiritual realm because that's not what they were created to do. Our minds were made to allow us to operate in this natural realm. But they don't have the capacity to understand the spirit realm.
Then why bother? Because spiritual truth comes by way of revelation from the Father. It's the Peter experience where Jesus asked him "Who do YOU say that I am" and God revealed to Peter right then and there that Jesus was the Christ. Peter didn't learn it, and he didn't understand it either, but he did see it because God revealed it to him.
Through our intimacy with the Father, revealtion of the nature of Jesus will manifest. "in" that revelation of Jesus, understanding will then take affect because that's the process of having a renewed mind.
Hebrews 11 and the first part of 12 talks about the fact that we are encompassed about by a great cloud of witnesses. Can you see them? No. Why? Because they are on the other side of this natural realm we live, but they are still all around us. "That's" what I'm talking about when I speak of the spiritual realm. That's where God "is". "This" realm we live in now is the lower realm. When Scripture states that Jesus came to the "lower" parts of the earth in Ephesians 4 speaks to the fact that the natural is "under" the authority of the spiritual.
When Adam walked with God in the "cool" of the day, it literally means he walked with God in the "spirit" of the day. The garden of Eden is a spiritual place . . .it was before the fall. It was why he was removed from the garden. Because he chose to eat from the tree of knowledge, that tree is more than just a tree, it was a gateway into the natural realm. That was why God told him not to eat of it. It's the realm of death and decay.
But we've been given the unique advantage through the finished work of the cross to walk in the spirit while still being exposed to the realm of the natural. When walking in the spirit, we are given the authority to rule in the natural. Bad things still happen here, but they no longer have us under bondage any more.
Ok thanks for clarifying.
There is a lot of "spiritual" versus "natural" and not everyone is talking about the same things.
So I appreciate your explaining your thoughts on this.
thanks bro.
Quote from: Cardinal on September 03, 2009, 08:51:19 AM
:cloud9: I'm sorry, but having been bit by a brown recluse and been only 2 hours away from dying according to my physician at the time (God healed me), I have requested of the Lord only half kidding, that if I make it to be a manifested Son of God in fullness, that my first "official" act will be to make all poisonous spiders and snakes into harmless bunnies. Works for me...... :laughing7: Blessings....
PS. I should point out that the bunnies part is an addition after much softening of my heart.....I originally was more in the ET mode on those :winkgrin:
:laughing7:
:HeartThrob:
Quote from: Tim B on September 01, 2009, 08:20:53 AM
I'm not really sure exactly what I think of Heaven, you know, exactly what or where it'll be, but I saw a preview for this movie called The Lovely Bones, by Peter Jackson, and inside the trailer were scenes of what I HOPE Heaven will be like. (Keep in mind, I didn't like ALL the scenes of "Heaven," or what's supposed to be like Heaven, but it was very cool.) Plus, it looks like a sweet movie. :laughing7:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/thelovelybones/medium.html
Y'know what, those couple of scenes in that preview, (esp. the tree with the "leaves" that are actually birds and then when they all fly off) made me feel so happy all day yesterday. Just had to thank you for posting that. I never would have seen it otherwise.
Sometimes when you're surrounded by all the stuff of this world...(and it starts to stick to you because you're not being mindful to rise above it) you need a beautiful vision to put in your head to override all that dark stuff. What a great vision that was! :icon_flower:
Quote from: sparrow on September 03, 2009, 02:04:06 AM
p.s. there are though, still a few kinds I totally go :eek: over...
but I try not to do my first instinct and kill them, I try to just shuffle them out the door.
Nathan... when you talk of natural and spiritual...
what exactly are you referring to?
Why would anything need to be invisible?
I'm not following you on that one.
I think I get a little perplexed at all the talk of "no more natural", what does that mean to people?
I tend to be the same way. I used to kill bugs... and now I tend to avoid it. Spiders can be an exception though, like, if it's a Wolf Spider. Those things are huge. Or if it's a Brown Recluse. Those things are dangerous.
Quote from: Cardinal on September 03, 2009, 08:51:19 AM
:cloud9: I'm sorry, but having been bit by a brown recluse and been only 2 hours away from dying according to my physician at the time (God healed me), I have requested of the Lord only half kidding, that if I make it to be a manifested Son of God in fullness, that my first "official" act will be to make all poisonous spiders and snakes into harmless bunnies. Works for me...... :laughing7: Blessings....
PS. I should point out that the bunnies part is an addition after much softening of my heart.....I originally was more in the ET mode on those :winkgrin:
Oh, goodness. I'm sorry to hear that Cardinal. I have been unable to access this site again for nearly two days, and just now got back in to find all this exciting discussion here in the 'Heaven' Thread. There are lots of creatures in this natural world I'm afraid of, some of them insects (tarantulas, scorpions, fire ants, wasps) as well as sharks, gators, snakes, lions, tigers and bears. I am just trying to imagine if all these creatures were harmless, then I would not be afraid of them, of course. But as it stands now, they have the power to kill me in the natural way of dying. All things in the natural are an allegory for spiritual realities, it seems. Perhaps these dangerous creatures are here to parallel with the evil things in the spirit - for our learning and comparison. Just a thought...
Anne, back for as long as God allows me to access the Tent
Quote from: Redlettervoice
I believe in "seeing" into the supernatural. It should be a common
occurence .........we just have not been taught that. People think you
looney........
It's true, they do. Even my kids sometimes give me a funny look when I tell them "the Holy Spirit spoke to me this morning right when I woke up and said....."
I think sometimes they just think I'm being overly religious if I share stuff like that with them. But at the same time, they know God is very real to me. My children are believers, but I don't think they have been walking with God long enough to listen and hear the Spirit speak to them regularly. It takes time, and it takes God's own will to be wherever we are in our spiritual journey. As you well know, God can hide himself should he decide to do so. My prayer lately has been just to keep hearing his voice speaking to me of wonderful things and teaching me in the quiet of my heart as I wait for him. He's my faithful companion - something no person can replace. :HeartThrob:
Quote from: Raggedy Anne on September 04, 2009, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: Cardinal on September 03, 2009, 08:51:19 AM
:cloud9: I'm sorry, but having been bit by a brown recluse and been only 2 hours away from dying according to my physician at the time (God healed me), I have requested of the Lord only half kidding, that if I make it to be a manifested Son of God in fullness, that my first "official" act will be to make all poisonous spiders and snakes into harmless bunnies. Works for me...... :laughing7: Blessings....
PS. I should point out that the bunnies part is an addition after much softening of my heart.....I originally was more in the ET mode on those :winkgrin:
Oh, goodness. I'm sorry to hear that Cardinal. I have been unable to access this site again for nearly two days, and just now got back in to find all this exciting discussion here in the 'Heaven' Thread. There are lots of creatures in this natural world I'm afraid of, some of them insects (tarantulas, scorpions, fire ants, wasps) as well as sharks, gators, snakes, lions, tigers and bears. I am just trying to imagine if all these creatures were harmless, then I would not be afraid of them, of course. But as it stands now, they have the power to kill me in the natural way of dying. All things in the natural are an allegory for spiritual realities, it seems. Perhaps these dangerous creatures are here to parallel with the evil things in the spirit - for our learning and comparison. Just a thought...
Anne, back for as long as God allows me to access the Tent
:cloud9: Thanks Anne, but no worries. This happened YEARS ago. Blessings...
hehehe...gotta love that Raid add :laughing7:
I think one thing we have to remember is that it is prophesized that there'll be new heavens and a new earth...some here talk about spiritual things as if they would be unseen things...anyone got proof of that?
"spiritual things" can mean a lot of stuff which sometimes just confuse me...but i can imagine a new earth...(where the spiders don't bite :winkgrin:)
Nope, not a shred of proof, I see it in faith. He's not making all new things, he's making all things new. The new heavens and new earth spoken of are things "within" me. If the flesh profits little, then I believe there's little benefit to trying to prove things physically happening. It's all inwardly seen.
Quote from: Nathan on September 08, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
If the flesh profits little, then I believe there's little benefit to trying to prove things physically happening. It's all inwardly seen.
me, I'll gladly take the "little" that the flesh would profit (ie new earth promised in revelation)...something i can understand...anything extra would be a huge bonus :thumbsup: :bigGrin:
Lately, this is what I have been thinking heaven will be like.
It will be much like earth is now (but in a spiritual form - whatever that is)....
EXCEPT everyone will want to do the right thing, so everyone will do the right thing!
Wouldn't that be great?
Legoman,
Yes, unity of wills and the removal of strife would be fantastic. Surely part of the problem with this present world is billions of wills fighting for supremacy rather than submitting to the mind of Christ.
I like listening to people's thoughts about heaven. Thanks everyone for sharing them.
Anne