A heart does not beat in an effort to get closer to the body, lungs do not take in and filter oxygen in an effort to get closer to the body. No, they do what they do because they are IN the body.
I want to encourage any who are wondering 'How can I get closer to God?', to instead pause and take in the wonder of just how close he already is.
You are IN him. There can be no closer relationship...there can only be an every increasing awareness of it.
Ronen
Yes Ronen. Every increasing awareness is "awakening out of sleep"
1Th_5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
2Th_1:10 When he shall come to be glorified ***in*** his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
It is the "saints" that will be glorified or have Jesus Christ and God revealed TO THEM from within them. The physical eyes will never be able to see who He is or see Him because who he is is spiritually EXPERIENCED, not seen with natural eyes.
The saints will also still look normal in outer appearance.
donken
It just is. :2c:
The Saviour met the needs of each one according the degree the sleeping spirit within was released:
Some needed dense earth and bathing...
After saying this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man's eyes. John 9:6
Some needed but a word spoken...
Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would." Matthew 8:13
Each one had the ability to realise what He said, if not straight away.
Man sees.
Only Love perceives.
Christ Jesus was Love Incarnate, the Living Word made flesh.
Christ, the Great Healer, the Royal Restorer, saw the substance of spirit in man, applying the exact need.
Christ, as man, always loved perfectly with all His Heart, Soul, Mind and Strength - to Him nothing was impossible.
If man loved like Christ, he could become whole - it not a mystery.
If man manifests the spiritual body of his new man, he can reject the body of the man of sense.
The Christ within can rule the new man with the devil of the old man subdued beneath His feet.
The spiritual body is of perfect Spirit - Real.
The material body can surrender to the Real.
God works amongst man daily to fill his temple with an positive environment of spiritual health, purity, faith and truth.
Growth into Divine Goodness made simple and easy by Christ.
All glory to He who is beyond understanding yet makes Himself known in the Christ of Nazareth.
timely post for me..this last week I've been reading up on the spittle miracles.
Quote from: lastpost on April 29, 2015, 11:53:45 PM
The Saviour met the needs of each one according the degree the sleeping spirit within was released:
Some needed dense earth and bathing...
After saying this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man's eyes. John 9:6
Some needed but a word spoken...
Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would." Matthew 8:13
Each one had the ability to realise what He said, if not straight away.
Man sees.
Only Love perceives.
Christ Jesus was Love Incarnate, the Living Word made flesh.
Christ, the Great Healer, the Royal Restorer, saw the substance of spirit in man, applying the exact need.
Christ, as man, always loved perfectly with all His Heart, Soul, Mind and Strength - to Him nothing was impossible.
If man loved like Christ, he could become whole - it not a mystery.
If man manifests the spiritual body of his new man, he can reject the body of the man of sense.
The Christ within can rule the new man with the devil of the old man subdued beneath His feet.
The spiritual body is of perfect Spirit - Real.
The material body can surrender to the Real.
God works amongst man daily to fill his temple with an positive environment of spiritual health, purity, faith and truth.
Growth into Divine Goodness made simple and easy by Christ.
All glory to He who is beyond understanding yet makes Himself known in the Christ of Nazareth.
Beautiful :o)
Good Word all around :thumbsup:
great song or poem Lastpost !! :icon_flower:
Truth. :HeartThrob:
I've been meditating on the mud/spit/pool miracle as well in the past little while.
Quote from: gregoryfl on May 11, 2014, 12:16:52 AM
A heart does not beat in an effort to get closer to the body, lungs do not take in and filter oxygen in an effort to get closer to the body. No, they do what they do because they are IN the body.
I want to encourage any who are wondering 'How can I get closer to God?', to instead pause and take in the wonder of just how close he already is.
You are IN him. There can be no closer relationship...there can only be an every increasing awareness of it.
Ronen
This might not be the right place to put this but since gregory mentioned about being IN him this thought came to mind. I don't know if anyone has thought about this or not but it seems there is a difference of "being in him" and "him being in us". Before the cross Jesus mentiones about being in him. Paul referes to him being in us. My thought was, Israel was in him and he is in the Gentiles. Or, circumcision/uncircumcision, law/grace. a seperation of in him and he in us.
I wondered if anyone else had thought of this, hope I made some sense here?
CHB
I think it's both. God's spirit within gives us life, and we are in the body of Christ. We are all one in spirit with Christ and the Father. The spirit of God is everywhere, and I don't think there is really a boundary between inside and outside.
Hi Lo....what I have read of the pool Siloam[sent] is it represents Christ.......the messenger/angel of the covenant[sent to lost sheep
of the house of Israel] to heal[fountain of life bubbling up and disturbing the still waters in the pool/waters of life bubbling up out of His belly]
what I found regarding the spittle miracles is...that the religious leaders had just referred to Jesus being illigitimate..but there was
a jewish tradition that a firstborn son could heal..even with his saliva... spit was generally considered an insult and to make
one unclean[Miriam leprosy] But Jesus come to save/bless and curse not.
Jesus prayed before He suffered for the oneness of those believing in Him,that he come from God. that they enjoy the oneness that
he had with His Father. The giving of the Kingdom..of the love of the son..was Father granting that prayer. That they may be
with Him..where he is and 'see' His glory[the glory he had with the Father before the founding of the world]
have no fear little flock..the Father has consented to give you the kingdom.
how may we be closer/draw near? follow His footsteps closely..do only what you behold Him doing..walk in His footsteps..do
only that which pleases Him..just like He did with His Father as his head.in time He will turn toward you and speak to you face to face
Very cool, thanks Sheila.
I believe:
This human race is yet very young, the Holy Spirit is at work in many ways on baby humanity.
Verities of Spirit cannot relate their fullness in earthly words, and heaven should not be framed on outer symbols of a Seer's vision.
Man knows very little of GOD, groping in dim, murky fogs of shadow...
"For at present we are observing by means of a mirror, in an enigma" 1 Corinthians 13:12
So He gave HIMSELF in Jesus Christ in answer to the world's cries from its manger, and according to baby humanity's need...
"God no one has ever seen. The only-begotten God, Who is in the bosom of the Father, He unfolds Him" John 1:18
Jesus comes as the life-giving Spring, perpetually overflowing without ceasing or ending, in such abundance that blessing is found in the flesh.
Man develops and knows GOD more than the last generational era as He reveals HIMSELF.
The vision becomes clearer, the mists dissipate, GOD becomes ever more beautiful to the perceiver who is eager to climb higher...
"Now we all, with uncovered face, mirroring the Lord's glory, are being transformed into the same image, from glory to glory, even as from the Lord, the spirit" 2 Corinthians 3:18
GOD is endless and so is the progression into the rich and richer, full and fuller meanings of HIM as He unfolds HIMSELF to His child.
GOD is so great that He takes the lowest thing and keeps it safe in His Great Heart, for this HE is adored and loved truly...
"...not one of them will be falling on the earth without your Father"
"GOD is the great King over all the elohim"
Man gets closer to GOD by sitting at the feet of the Master Christ, then by following Him.
Jesus Himself knew that He was the CHRIST of GOD - Jesus did not need Life from a God who was away and outside - GOD is forever fulfilling HIMSELF.
Christ cannot die and His life is the fullest most sublime LIFE which ought to be pulsating through each and every vein of the body Real - because CHRIST IS LIFE.
Quote from: lastpost on May 01, 2015, 10:59:16 PM
I believe:
This human race is yet very young, the Holy Spirit is at work in many ways on baby humanity.
Verities of Spirit cannot relate their fullness in earthly words, and heaven should not be framed on outer symbols of a Seer's vision.
Man knows very little of GOD, groping in dim, murky fogs of shadow...
"For at present we are observing by means of a mirror, in an enigma" 1 Corinthians 13:12
So He gave HIMSELF in Jesus Christ in answer to the world's cries from its manger, and according to baby humanity's need...
"God no one has ever seen. The only-begotten God, Who is in the bosom of the Father, He unfolds Him" John 1:18
Jesus comes as the life-giving Spring, perpetually overflowing without ceasing or ending, in such abundance that blessing is found in the flesh.
Man develops and knows GOD more than the last generational era as He reveals HIMSELF.
The vision becomes clearer, the mists dissipate, GOD becomes ever more beautiful to the perceiver who is eager to climb higher...
"Now we all, with uncovered face, mirroring the Lord's glory, are being transformed into the same image, from glory to glory, even as from the Lord, the spirit" 2 Corinthians 3:18
GOD is endless and so is the progression into the rich and richer, full and fuller meanings of HIM as He unfolds HIMSELF to His child.
GOD is so great that He takes the lowest thing and keeps it safe in His Great Heart, for this HE is adored and loved truly...
"...not one of them will be falling on the earth without your Father"
"GOD is the great King over all the elohim"
Man gets closer to GOD by sitting at the feet of the Master Christ, then by following Him.
Jesus Himself knew that He was the CHRIST of GOD - Jesus did not need Life from a God who was away and outside - GOD is forever fulfilling HIMSELF.
Christ cannot die and His life is the fullest most sublime LIFE which ought to be pulsating through each and every vein of the body Real - because CHRIST IS LIFE.
:HeartThrob:
May I give a further opinion on this subject?
To get closer to GOD, the personal must become universal.
Please note that greater individuality and spiritual identity is gained by losing the earthly personal in the universal.
The earthly personal has many limitations and needs transforming by the Christ-Spirit.
The Nazarene man, Jesus, could not be kept by those who loved Him, because the Christ of GOD, the Spirit of GOD in Christ, would be lost to them...
"Yet now I am going away to Him Who sends Me, and not one of you is asking Me, 'Whither art Thou going?' But, seeing that I have spoken these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. But I am telling you the truth. It is expedient for you that I may be coming away, for if I should not be coming away, the consoler will not be coming to you" John 16:5-7
Jesus, the man in the flesh, whom the disciples loved like no other has ever been loved, knew that He, as a physical human, was not the highest gift for their greatest good that could benefit His disciples and He resisted the temptation to linger...
"Thenceforth begins Jesus to show His disciples that He must be coming away into Jerusalem and to be suffering much from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and to be killed, and the third day to be roused. And, taking Him to him, Peter begins to rebuke Him, saying, "Propitious be it to Thee, Lord! By no means shall this be for Thee!" Now, being turned, He said to Peter, "Go away behind Me, satan! A snare are you to Me, for you are not disposed to that which is of God, but that which is of men" Matthew 16:21-23
The Spiritual Christ of GOD - through whom all creation was made - incarnated Himself as the man Jesus, in order to reveal the Father GOD...
"If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also. And henceforth you know Him and have seen Him. Philip is saying to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficing us." Jesus is saying to him, "So much time I am with you, and you do not know Me, Philip! He who has seen Me has seen the Father, and how are you saying, 'Show us the Father'? Are you not believing that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The declarations which I am speaking to you I am not speaking from Myself. Now the Father, remaining in Me, He is doing His works" John 14:7-11
As all flesh must die, Jesus the human man of flesh, would make a better solution possible so that He, as His own Holy Spirit, could be with His disciples (and just as powerfully with later followers) even though physical death must occur...
"And I shall be asking the Father, and He will be giving you another consoler, that it, indeed, may be with you for the eon" John 14:16
Jesus was to withdraw Himself from His disciples, and His removal demonstrated that in omnipotent form He might not only be with them but indeed with all humanity.
The Spirit of GOD, through Christ, manifests in diverse manners and expressions, yet is the pure and primary cause of Life and is One.
Man thinks he knows his GOD yet limits the unlimited wisdom of GOD, when man does not even know himself. From the Spirit only should man think, speak and live in all things...
"Yet to us God reveals them through His spirit, for the spirit is searching all, even the depths of God" 1 Corinthians 2:10
Man must only breathe in the Spirit, then that which covers the spirit which needs restoring can be nourished [as a consequence the body external is also blessed]...
"Shuddering is my spirit--mine, Daniel's--in the midst of its sheath" Daniel 7:15
Disciples must conquer now with no excuse for delay, bringing spiritually harmonious order into life.
Earthly personality of the body must submit itself to transformation by the Holy Spirit, blend and become one with the universality of the Christ-Spirit of GOD, so that the All-in-all is not hindered.
"For it is God Who is operating in you to will as well as to work for the sake of His delight" Philippians 2:13
This will bring one closer to GOD - in my opinion (an opinion which has been formed for me in faith by the living).
This should be glad tidings to all men, and one future time sleeping humanity must awaken to it from its slumber.
Just awesome Lastpost!! :icon_flower:
Amen! this reminds me of John chapter 15, "Abide in me and I in you.." .."if you abide in me and my words abide in you.." Also, "Thy Word is truth, sanctify them" (us!) "in Thy truth"
He abides in us, and we abide in Him, and His Word sanctifies us - sets us straight -
"by the washing of the Word" ..all else is babylon and babble, which is the world (man's world not His glorious creation :laughing7: )
His Word, Truth is practical, down to earth, and also logical, and (imo) simplicity! able to be easily understood by all.. but man has made it complicated.. for (but) man loves the sound of his own words..
...complicated for now, that is! But one day "knowledge of the LORD will cover the Earth like waters cover the seas"!
:dsunny: :banana:
"closer to God" - the answer to every thing, is more of Him.. :smile:
No human teacher can provide the greatness of the work which is to be done within.
Prepare with prayer for GOD to speak, then wait. When GOD speaks, there should always be silence...
"Be still before the Lord and wait patiently for him" Psalms 37
Within you is Christ and HE is unchanging...
"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever" Hebrews 13:8
Allow Christ to speak. Let the Christ of GOD be the only reality, let the 'you' part become the Mind of Christ, His thoughts, His plans, His purpose...
"For, let this mind be in you that also in Christ Jesus" Philippians 2:5
Allow the Word to speak again, feel the exhilaration, the freshness, the newness, the rising of the crystal spring within you - and know the Son of God who is everlasting from age to age...
"Whoever may drink of the water that I give him, may not thirst to the age; and the water that I give him becomes in him a well of water, springing up to life age-lasting" John 4:14
Peace
Now that one experiences a tender union with Christ...
"He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water" John 7:38
...one must not be hampered by that which opposes Divine Goodness, cleansing is needed, the putting off the mortal mind...
"Do not ye lie, or gab, to one another, discarding the old man with his deeds" Colossians 3:9
Sin belongs to chaos and disunity and is connected with the old man of the senses, and would set itself up in ones midst.
But He who is greater than any being has known, and who has become real to one as a conscious indwelling fact, conquers all sin...
"For He will reign until He has put all enemies under His feet" 1 Corinthians 15:25
One feels His very life recreating within, filling Himself, making new, knowing the soul is in perfect unity with God...
"Do not be conformed to this world, but be reformed in newness of your mind, that you prove which is the will of God, good, and well pleasing, and perfect" Romans 12:2
Christ takes His own right of possession of His Father's temple and drives out all robbers and thieves...
"And when he had made, as it were, a scourge of small cords, he drove out all of the temple, and oxen, and sheep; and he shedded out the money of changers, and turned upside-down the boards" John 2:15
One has sent out a cry of want, a great need, an outstretching to the Author of ones spirit...
O Lord, how long will you forget me? Forever?
How long will you look the other way?
How long must I struggle with anguish in my soul,
with sorrow in my heart every day?
How long will my enemy have the upper hand? Psalm 13
The great Heart of Love is infinite and all-sufficient, from which streams the healing of compassionate forgiveness with a love so great that all are cast out now that the Conqueror of sin and death dwells within...
"...having blotted out the handwriting in the ordinances that is against us, that was contrary to us, and he hath taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross" Colossians 2
Peace ✞
Oh, yes.
:HeartThrob:
Within are spiritual riches which the non-believer does not grasp...
"...which is Christ in you, the hope of glory" Colossians 1:27
Sin forgiven means the sin is ended, yet the results are not ended...
"Be not deceived, God is not to be sneered at, for whatsoever a man may be sowing, this shall he be reaping also" Gal. 6:7
Sin forgiven kills the root yet on flows the river of life...
"And he showed me a river of water of life, resplendent as crystal, issuing out of the throne of God and the Lamb. In the centre of its square, and on either side of the river, is the tree of life, producing twelve fruits, rendering its fruit in accord with each month. And the leaves of the tree are for the cure of the multitude living together" Rev.22:1-2
Sin is chaos yet its results can be transformed into good...
"And the Elohim said, 'Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky' " Gen.1:20
Life's compensations and the perfect ways of God are seen from the Spirit side...
"As for God, his way is perfect:
The Lord's word is flawless;
he shields all who take refuge in him" 2 Samuel 22:31
The Living Christ is within, and when the soul becomes conscious of this, it is raised up with the Father in unity, becoming one with the task of redemption which raises the whole race...
"I have given them the glory which Thou has given Me, that they may be one, as as We are One, I in them and Thou in Me, that they may be perfected in one, and that the world may know that Thou dost commission Me and dost love them as Thou dost love Me" John 17:22-23
From the centre of Purity of the highest Heaven, Love presses in and through every atmosphere round about all beings. Love calls to one to do its bidding and one ought to be ready and obedient...
"If you are willing and obedient,
you will eat the good things of the land" Isa.1:19
One should be willing to go to death on the cross which is the place of sacrifice for all who become one with the Father through Christ...
"Rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross" Phil.2:7-8
...as this is the atmosphere of Love in which all that is uppermost is sustained and nourished. There is no higher love...
"Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends" John 15:13
Love, as Christ, dwells within even the human life, and there must be much love given out, so that Christ can perform His work through one...
"And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus.
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. We love because he first loved us" 1 John 4:16-19
Christ loves the world and He will not stop so that it is transformed into the kingdom of Heaven...
"Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, on earth also" Matt.6:10
Peace in action
Rest in Peace
:Pray: Yes Lord come :HeartThrob:
20He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming quickly." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. 21The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.
Thank u Lastpost for your contributions to this thred- they have been wonderful.
Thank you. I do not mean to be rude in not answering but I find I remove the personal element or else there is a dangerr I might assume I could know anything at all without Him, and it is not false humility because I know I am nothing without Him.
✞
I believe or at least hope we all here embrace that thought :HeartThrob: :dsunny:
Quote from: micah7:9 on May 08, 2015, 08:44:23 PM
I believe or at least hope we all here embrace that thought :HeartThrob: :dsunny:
:thumbsup:
It is a truth ! :flowerred:
Absolutely! Encouraging the saints, and stirring one another up by way of reminder :o)
Amen....
"I counsel thee to buy from me gold fired by fire, that thou may be rich, and white garments that thou may be arrayed, and the shame of thy nakedness may not be manifest, and with eye-salve anoint thine eyes, that thou may see" Rev.3:18
When God speaks, earthly language is transformed into spiritual language that is everlasting...
"The spirit it is that is giving life; the flesh doth not profit anything; the sayings that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life" John 6:63
The Spirit of God uses different conduits to spill out bounteous riches of His Wisdom - one Spirit in manifold manners...
"God works in different ways, but it is the same God who does the work in all of us" 1 Corinthians 12:6
The sacred records tell of God with words infused with Spirit Power...
"Which things also we speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Holy Spirit, using the Spirit's words to explain spiritual truths" 1 Corinthians 2:13
The Bible has been given the highest place by tens of millions and increases in Spirit Power by the law of transmutation, a key blessing to progress.
This same purifying law of the Spirit lifts one to a state free from sin when every thought, word and deed is lifted to the most highest place, thus the whole race is lifted...
"Ye shall therefore be perfect, as your Father who in the heavens is perfect" Matthew 5:48
The Sacred Record reveals the richest truths with deepest meanings for all time.
"It was to us that God revealed these things by his Spirit. For his Spirit searches out everything and shows us God's deep secrets" 1 Corinthians 2:10
Further unfolding of the heart of Divine life shall being given...
"Purify yourselves, for tomorrow the Lord will do great wonders among you" Joshua 3
Great things are coming to pass...
"Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father" John 14:12
The scarcity of open vision is coming to an end...
"Now in those days messages from the Lord were very rare, and visions were quite uncommon" 1 Samuel 3
There will be rejoicing in new revelation and fresh hope will arise...
"I pray that God, the source of hope, will fill you completely with joy and peace because you trust in him. Then you will overflow with confident hope through the power of the Holy Spirit" Romans 15:13
What was old shall be revealed afresh, fear not, doubt not, be positive in all things, think the best of and raise others to the highest, and cast out into the depths of GOD, He is within already in Christ...
"When he had finished speaking, he said to Simon, 'Now go out where it is deeper, and let down your nets to catch some fish' " Luke 5:4
Buy purified Divine gold, one does not need money for Divine gifts...
"Come, everyone who is thirsty, come to the waters; and you without money, come, buy, and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost" Isa.55
Peace ✞
God, in Christ, has been in Creation from the beginning, and His Life is the light of man...
"...In him were the all things created, those in the heavens, and those upon the earth, those visible, and those invisible, whether thrones, whether lordships, whether principalities, whether authorities; all things through him, and for him, have been created" Colossians 1:16
"He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind" John 1:2-4
The journey to God and the destination are really the same; God is always in ones midst...
"The time is complete, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent and believe the glad tidings" Mark 1:15
"But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the royal power of God is already come to you" Matthew 12:28
Occasionally, people realise God is always present just where they are, and it bodes well with their souls, even in misfortune...
"Everything is all right" 2 Kings 4:26
"Even though the fig trees have no blossoms,
And there are no grapes on the vines;
Even though the olive crop fails,
And the fields lie empty and barren;
Even though the flocks die in the fields,
And the cattle barns are empty,
Yet I will rejoice in the Lord!
I will be joyful in the God of my salvation" Habakkuk 3:17-18
The one who awakens to consciousness of the Christ within and in ones midst, knows unity, and realises there will never be parting...
"I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forever, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death" Rev.1:18
"Because I live, you also will live. On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you" John 14:19-20
God has lifted one to consciousness of His Presence through the Spirit - nothing can ever separate Spirit and Spirit...
"To be of the mind of the body is death, but to be of the mind of the spirit is life and peace" Romans 8:6
Life and Peace ✞
Yes, YEs, YES!!!!
Gratitude to God for the hidden Spirit Power throughout Creation, like secret manna which nourishes every part...
"His glory shall cover the heavens, and the earth shall be full of his praising. His shining shall be like the light; with rays coming from his hands. That is where his power is hidden" Habakkuk 3:3-4
The hidden power of Spirit is manifesting a sublime freedom which appears all around the children of God...
"That also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption, into the liberty of the glory of the children of God" Romans 8:21
Prisoners are released from dogmas, shackles shattered from creeds, minds of the body replaced with minds of the spirit...
"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, Because He did anoint me; To proclaim good news to the poor, Sent me to heal the broken of heart, To proclaim to captives deliverance, And to the blind the receiving of sight, To send away the bruised with deliverance" Luke 4:18
Do not feel beaten, the battle is won, let the chains of the mind drop to the floor...
"And all this assembly do know that not by sword and by spear doth the Lord save, that the battle is the Lord's, and He hath given you into our hand" 1 Samuel 17:47
One submits to the highest within, becoming one with the Supreme...
"...not my will, but thine, be done" Luke 22:42
God provides healing for sinners and blessings flow abundantly, thus the race is lifted...
"Nevertheless, I will bring health and healing to it; I will heal my people and will let them enjoy abundant peace and security" Jeremiah 33
Angels are grateful when repentance comes for they know it begins the freedom of the child of God...
"There is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents" Luke 15:10
To be consciously in union with God, is complete salvation of body, soul and spirit. Complete freedom comes with knowledge, experience and understanding of oneness with the Divine...
"And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life" 1 John 5:20
Peace in Christ
The beauty of reality is that...... It is what it is. The word "manna" means, "what is it". Give us this day our daily bread. I am the bread of life. Today if you hear His voice. We are discovering "what it is" every day as we eat the manna from heaven- man does not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God. He says, "I AM THAT I AM" and we must learn, through the wilderness of life, the lessons of futility, that we did not know as we thought we knew and there is more to see, always.
In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word.Heb 1:1-3
Thank God we have this assurance that Jesus is the revelation of God, the I AM as He is, for us and all, a savior. As our transformation occurs from mixture to purity, becoming "rooted and grounded in love" it is from "glory to glory"- so we can be assured, we are not traveling backwards if we remain humble and in fellowship with Him
And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the Lord's holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us,to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all the generations of the age of the ages! (Eph 3:18-21)
Far above and beyond our ability to "figure it all out"- God is revealing it in Jesus Christ, as we like clay in the Potter's hands are conformed to His image- not by what we know,tho our knowledge is very valuable- but by His fatherly intrusions into our lives to bring us "face to face" with Him.
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. (2 Cor 3)
Was a blessing to read this Lastpost and John
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Just wanted to say that!! , and was reading 1cor13 in the quiet one day , and just like these , I noticed how ,bright the message was and easier to see and read , and just how much those words of Life change your mind and thoughts towards Him and everyone else .
And how much we do ''miss out '' when we do not pay attention .
God bless everyone gathered here today in His holy name :HeartThrob:
Each has a hypersensitive spiritual apparatus, a sensing faculty, that should receive truth and power from the one and only Spirit within...
"Behold, You desire truth in the inner being; make me therefore to know wisdom in my inmost heart" Psalms 51:6
"I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being" Ephesians 3:16
...but which has shared in the falsehood of the outer being...
"But I see another law in my members, fighting against the law of my mind, and making me captive in the law of sin, that is in my members" Romans 7:23
..and which has been loaded with deceptive thinking and desires from the outer being, instead of only receiving food and drink from the sacred inner source, Christ...
"Jesus, therefore, said to them, `Verily, verily, I say to you, If ye eat not the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink not his blood, ye have no life in yourselves" John 6:53
This living apparatus of the Spirit has the ability to conquer every sense impression, every deceitful reasoning which lives in any part of the outer being, quietening it under Christ...
"Overthrowing reasonings and every high thing that lifts itself up against the knowledge of God, and leading captive every thought into the obedience of the Christ" 2 Corinthians 10:5
The extent of control is over each molecule of the body including the nervous system, else sovereignty belongs to the outer being, thus confusion reigns...
"For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot shall say: 'Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body'; is it therefore not of the body?" 1 Cor.12
Feeling severance and unconnectedness is the foe. The Mind of Christ is Wisdom, Love and Harmony, and should reign supreme through and over the outer being as Lord...
"In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus" Philippians 2:5
With the Christ Mind dominating, each breath revitalises and refreshes, and reconciles that which was hopelessly finished...
"Then He said unto me: 'Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel; behold, they say: Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off.'...
... And I will put My spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I will place you in your own land; and ye shall know that I the LORD have spoken, and performed it, saith the LORD" Ezekiel 37:11,14
Feeling disconnected and separated are forever over. Through the Love of Christ and His Self-Sacrifice, one is dead and buried to sin...
"For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death" Romans 7:11
...and is now living unto Christ, being conscious that He is properly returned to His rightful place and seated within...
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me" Galatians 2:20
:icon_flower: Amen !
But we mustn't forget, "the heart is deceitful above all things" - our own (inner) reasoning can still lead us astray.. thank the Lord for His word, within which is safety for it is all truth and all discernment.. by abiding in it, and it abiding in us (after all He iS the Word) :smile:
"inner and outer" I agree with, but also is there the born again and the lower nature, the not born again nature, Adamic nature, called "the flesh"/unregenerated psyche.. which is also inner.. "out of the heart proceed..". paul battled with this lower nature/body of death.. not the glorious creation, the body God made ("I am wondrously and awesomely made").. but the body now subjected to the law of sin and death.. error and dissolution/falling-apart-ness... entropy.. wrong-doing..
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Man hinders complete reconciliation when focussing on the deceptive material. Only the coming of Divine Spirit Power to material conditions creates everlasting work...
"No one can serve two masters. He will either hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon" Matthew 6:24
A body unconquered is not a reconciled life. The perfecting must be concluded by the Divine Spirit working from within...
"The LORD will perfect that which concerns me. Thy mercy, O LORD, endures for ever: abandon not the works of thine own hands" Psalms 138:8
Increasing in understanding of spiritual realties brings a clearer perception of Christ...
"For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ" 2 Peter 1:8
...first growing in the vision of Christ as the ideal, then becoming that vision of Christ...
"Father, those whom Thou hast given to me, I will that where I am they also may be with me, that they may behold my glory that Thou didst give to me" John 17:24
...and being revived in His likeness...
"As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awaken with thy likeness" Psalms 17
"...we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: who shall transform the body of our humiliation, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body" Philippians 3:20-21
As the battle against the unreal comes to completion, so the child joins the mighty throng awaiting the transformation of all earthly realms into heavenly realms...
"...You are my son; today I have begotten you. Ask it of me, and I will give you the nations as your inheritance, and, as your possession, the ends of the earth" Psalm 2:7,8
"I was seeing in the visions of the night, and lo, with the clouds of the heavens as a son of man was coming, and unto the Ancient of Days he hath come, and before Him they have brought him near.
And to him is given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and languages do serve him, his dominion is a dominion age-during, that passes not away, and his kingdom that which is not destroyed" Dan 7:13,14
Reconciliation of all to the Glory of Christ is the Highest Hope
Quote from: lastpost on May 08, 2015, 08:32:44 PM
Thank you. I do not mean to be rude in not answering but I find I remove the personal element or else there is a dangerr I might assume I could know anything at all without Him, and it is not false humility because I know I am nothing without Him.
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This is every last one of us bro . :HeartThrob:
We all communicate according to How the Holy Spirit teaches us , every Gift of God , though Jesus Christ , one of a kind Son, who by His death and more so His Life ...will bring many sons of glory to the Father , poured out on our flesh is His ''gift of Life '' to humanity .
Ah, I have seen and heard the subtle deception of spirits unseen and unheard by many others so I am told, and so I am very acutely aware of the need to always remember to renew the death of the lesser self lest I should permit access to one attempting to imitate words from the Spirit. This is my own pathway of experience and so it shall be right up to the end.
Quote from: lastpost on May 13, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
Ah, I have seen and heard the subtle deception of spirits unseen and unheard by many others so I am told, and so I am very acutely aware of the need to always remember to renew the death of the lesser self lest I should permit access to one attempting to imitate words from the Spirit. This is my own pathway of experience and so it shall be right up to the end.
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1 Peter 4
For {it is} time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if {it} {begins} with us first, what {will be} the outcome for those who do not obey the
gospel of God?
Quote from: lastpost on May 12, 2015, 06:47:39 AM
Each has a hypersensitive spiritual apparatus, a sensing faculty, that should receive truth and power from the one and only Spirit within...
"Behold, You desire truth in the inner being; make me therefore to know wisdom in my inmost heart" Psalms 51:6
"I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being" Ephesians 3:16
...but which has shared in the falsehood of the outer being...
"But I see another law in my members, fighting against the law of my mind, and making me captive in the law of sin, that is in my members" Romans 7:23
..and which has been loaded with deceptive thinking and desires from the outer being, instead of only receiving food and drink from the sacred inner source, Christ...
"Jesus, therefore, said to them, `Verily, verily, I say to you, If ye eat not the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink not his blood, ye have no life in yourselves" John 6:53
This living apparatus of the Spirit has the ability to conquer every sense impression, every deceitful reasoning which lives in any part of the outer being, quietening it under Christ...
"Overthrowing reasonings and every high thing that lifts itself up against the knowledge of God, and leading captive every thought into the obedience of the Christ" 2 Corinthians 10:5
The extent of control is over each molecule of the body including the nervous system, else sovereignty belongs to the outer being, thus confusion reigns...
"For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot shall say: 'Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body'; is it therefore not of the body?" 1 Cor.12
Feeling severance and unconnectedness is the foe. The Mind of Christ is Wisdom, Love and Harmony, and should reign supreme through and over the outer being as Lord...
"In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus" Philippians 2:5
With the Christ Mind dominating, each breath revitalises and refreshes, and reconciles that which was hopelessly finished...
"Then He said unto me: 'Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel; behold, they say: Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off.'...
... And I will put My spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I will place you in your own land; and ye shall know that I the LORD have spoken, and performed it, saith the LORD" Ezekiel 37:11,14
Feeling disconnected and separated are forever over. Through the Love of Christ and His Self-Sacrifice, one is dead and buried to sin...
"For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death" Romans 7:11
...and is now living unto Christ, being conscious that He is properly returned to His rightful place and seated within...
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me" Galatians 2:20
Oh, YES.
The heart can be poisoned by the way of the world...
"But the things that come out of a person's mouth come from the heart, and these defile them" Matthew 15:18
Yet the heart is meant to be the seat of Divine understanding...
"The wise in heart will receive commandments: but a chattering fool shall fall" Proverbs 10:8
The heart is the setting for Divine revelation where God is perceived...
"Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God" Matthew 5:8
The deep things of God are known by the heart and not the mind...
"Attend with your ear to wisdom; and stretch out your heart to understanding" Proverbs 2:2
Sacred and Divine wisdom is received by the heart, and ones very being is blessed...
"For wisdom shall come into your heart. And knowledge shall be pleasant to your soul" Proverbs 2:10
Not the mind of man but the Heart of Love alone unfolds Divine knowledge and revelation...
"Incline thine ear, and hear words of the wise, and thy heart set to my knowledge. For they are pleasant when thou dost keep them in thy heart, they are prepared together for thy lips" Proverbs 22:17,18
God is so near, the heart should be kept beating in harmony with His Great Heart...
"More than any sentry-post, preserve your heart, for from it spring the outflowings of life" Proverbs 4:23
Precious beyond comprehension is the Light which shines from fathoming something of the GLORY of GOD in His Sacred CHRIST JESUS.
AMeN! to all these listed verses.. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :dsunny:
.."He who is able to do abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us"..
Ehp 3:16-19 - "according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height— to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that..." (we:) "may be filled with all the fullness of God."
..."how much more will He grant the Holy spirit to those that ask Him.."
"same power which raised Jesus from the grave.." (and parted the red sea!) .."us.. unto the fulness of Christ"
.."now to Him who is able to guard you not stumbling, and to set [you] in the presence of His glory unblemished, in gladness, to the only wise God our Saviour, [is] glory and greatness, power and authority, both now and to all the ages! Amen." - Jude 24-25 (Young's Lit)
.."24 Now to Him Who is able to guard you from tripping, and to stand you flawless in sight of His glory, in exultation, 25 to the only God, our Saviour, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, might and authority before the entire eon, now, as well as for all the eons. Amen!" Concordant Version
..i think it's good to be yield, yield, yielding.. unto Him.. and when we think we've gotten to the very floor of our being, is when we need to start tearing up floorboards.. (I like to remind myself of that, often .."the power at work in us..") :smile:
Simply by following Christ, we draw closer to God...
"Come to Me, all you who labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you refreshing rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me..." Matthew 11:28-29
Yet man's understanding of Christ is limited: His love surpasses knowledge; He can do more than we can imagine...
"...and to know this love that surpasses knowledge...Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine..." Ephesians 3:16-21
His Cross ruptured chains, and our little earth was changed forever. Captives were set free, and the separation between man and God ended...
"...also having gone to the spirits in prison he did preach" 1 Peter 3:19
"Everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed" John 8:34-36
The Cross of Christ embraced all of humanity and raised it up to Divinity...
"And I, if I may be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto myself" John 12:32
Every incident of the Cross has an inner meaning. When the water flowed from the side of Christ, it anointed the earth which received its holy besprinkling...
"...one of the soldiers with a spear did pierce his side, and immediately there came forth blood and water" John 19:34
The extent of Sacrifice in its fullness will be better understood when the material mists of the earth are lifted and selflessness is entered...
"For now we see through a glass, darkly..." 1 Corinthians 13:12
"But our citizenship is in heaven..." Philippians 3:20
The unthinkable union of the Son of Man and the Son of God was found in Jesus...an earth-body able to die even as in Adam, yet containing the fullness of the Godhead within...
"The first man is out of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord out of heaven" 1 Corinthians 15:47
"...in Him dwelt the fullness of the Godhead bodily" Col.2:9
"The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact impression of his being" Heb.1:3
Jesus Christ the Divine-Man, established the wondrous relationship between God and humanity - He was the Man for man, He loved God and He loved humanity - He is the fullness of life, the vine and the vitality that runs through it...
"For one is God, one also is mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus" 1 Timothy 2:5
Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life - He is All-Beauty, All-Power, All-Love, All-Selflessness, All-Sacrifice. He is Life Himself.
Eph 3:14 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, 15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name, 16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19 and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God.
20 Now to Him who is able to do far more abundantly beyond all that we ask or think, according to the power that works within us, 21 to Him be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus to all generations forever and ever. Amen.
Thank you ew for expanding the above quote. My apologies. Perhaps trying to aid continuity and flow by minimising and avoiding the use of UPPERCASE, underlining, italics and bolding is a little too adventurous!
Drawing closer to GOD includes disciplined preparation.
To receive purer Divine truths, one must retreat from the material world and the worldly-minded people and environments...
"...Israel encamped there before the mount. And Moses hath gone up unto God, and Jehovah called unto him out of the mount..." Exodus 19:2,3
"In repentance and rest is your salvation; in quietness and trust is your strength" Isaiah 30:15
"There he went into a cave and spent the night. And the word of the Lord came to him" 1 Kings 19:9
"...he was withdrawing himself in the desert places and was praying" Luke 5:16
"Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light" Matthew 17:1-2
Complete balance of spirit must be kept when seeking purer Divine truths...
"You will keep in perfect peace
Those whose minds are steadfast,
Because they trust in you" Isaiah 26:3
"They will have no fear of bad news; Their hearts are steadfast, trusting in the Lord" Psalm 112:7
"For God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control" 2 Timothy 1:7
Each one in Christ should bear responsibility for opening the door of communication with Divine Spirit...
"...Therefore be self-controlled and sober-minded for the sake of your prayers" 1 Peter 4:7
"A man without self-control is like a city broken into and left without walls" Proverbs 25:28
"The soul of the sluggard craves and gets nothing, while the soul of the diligent is richly supplied" Proverbs 13:4
Peace ✞
:cloud9: Only had time to read the first post lastpost, but wanted to say a resounding AMEN before I leave. God is a Spirit and as all seeds must bear fruit after their own kind, God's Seed could only be a Spirit, a Spirit in the flesh man, Jesus. Seeing this will set you FREE and whom the Son sets free is free indeed. Blessings.... :HeartThrob:
When Christ-Personal left His followers, He returned to them universally, to become an individual in each of them in the innermost sense. True brotherhood and sisterhood - the Family spirit was dawning...
"...`Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?' And having stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, he said, `Lo, my mother and my brethren! For whoever may do the will of my Father who is in the heavens, he is my brother, and sister, and mother' " Matthew 12:48-50
Limitation and separation were being replaced with consciousness of belonging to each other as Family - a sense of one-with-all was in its infancy - inner lights were emerging into a growing Light which will one day cover the earth...
"...and of the multitude of those who did believe, the heart and the soul was one; and not one was saying that anything of the things he had was his own, but all things were to them in common" Acts 4:32
Man was learning the basics of true Family: The whole is hurt when one is hurt...
"If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honoured, every part rejoices with it" 1 Corinthians 12:26
Man will mature to a state where he can cast away separation through doctrine so that man may be one with man in GOD - a Family in Divine unity...
"How good and pleasant it is
when God's people live together in unity!
It is like precious oil poured on the head,
Running down on the beard,
Running down on Aaron's beard,
Down on the collar of his robe.
It is as if the dew of Hermon
Were falling on Mount Zion.
For there the Lord bestows his blessing,
Even life forevermore" Psalm 133
"A new commandment I give to you, that ye love one another; according as I did love you, that ye also love one another" John 13
Quietly in all nations so does the Spirit of Christ work patiently, bringing glad tidings and goodwill to all men...
"...Wonderful Counsellor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the greatness of his government and peace
There will be no end..." Isaiah 9:6,7
The Prince of Peace enables the abundant inner life to issue forth and be magnified, even as the flow of a sanctified river shall the Divine Family Spirit manifest...
"...the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favour of the holy people of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom" Daniel 7:22
"Swarms of living creatures will live wherever the river flows. There will be large numbers of fish, because this water flows there and makes the salt water fresh; so where the river flows everything will live...
Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing" Ezekiel 47:9,12
Love much and pray often, all is well for GOD shall redeem all, wherever His children might be...
"If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
If I make my bed in the depths, you are there" Psalm 139:8
The night is passing, Christ has conquered, let the Spirit guide, passing over the rocky mental constructs of the physical mind which creates dark false realities from what is meant to be spiritual Light...
"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the Lord your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you" Deuteronomy 31:6
"The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armour of light" Romans 13:12
Consciously choose the noble Peace of the Saviour, then the Spirit will open out the interior lifeblood, joining the Divine Family so that it blossoms ever more beautifully until the ordained day...
"All the nations you have made
Will come and worship before you, Lord;
They will bring glory to your name.
For you are great and do marvellous deeds;
You alone are God" Psalm 86:9,10
Peace and Goodwill to All Humankind ✞
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Amen
:cloud9: Amen. This speaks to me right where I'm at right now. Awesome. :thumbsup: :dsunny:
I didn't see this quote, in the conversation. Excuse me, if I missed it.
...27that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, 'For we also are His children.' 29"Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man....Acts 17: 27 - 29
In Him we live and move and exist.....yes, indeed.
And this one:
...4"Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. 5"I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. John 15: 4 - 5
Abide in me, and I in you.
And, I believe, that in partaking of Communion, we are actually becoming one with Christ. An outward sign of a spiritual communion.
1 Corinthians 10:16
Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?
So, yes, absolutely, we are the body of Christ....He in us; we in Him.
Only a mighty God would have this incredibly beautiful concept of oneness, with us. I am in awe. :tender:
With respect and reverence to the Saviour and His Grace ✞
Man's mental processes spot a glimmering of Truth,
They compartmentalise it,
They swaddle it in material formality,
They diminish its strength,
They disunite it,
They separate it from Divine Wholeness.
Man's image-perceiving gift becomes contaminated through abuse...
"Their cobwebs are useless for clothing; they cannot cover themselves with what they make...
...Like the blind we grope along the wall, feeling our way like people without eyes" [Isaiah 59:6,10]
Self-generated dross and self-imposed limitations prohibit reception of Truth...
"...will they fortify themselves? will they sacrifice? will they make an end in a day? will they revive the stones out of the heaps of the rubbish which are burned?...
...And Judah said, `The power of the burden-bearers has become feeble, and the rubbish is abundant, and we are not able to build on the wall' " [Nehemiah 4:2,10]
...therefore reviving the heart, mind, soul-body, and re-dedicating them to GOD should be practised regularly...
"...may we draw near with a true heart, in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and having the body bathed with pure water" [Hebrews 10:22]
"For the Lord your God walks in the midst of your camp, to deliver you and to give up your enemies before you, therefore let your tents be holy, and nothing of filth appear in them, lest for uncleanness he forsake you" [Deuteronomy 23:14]
...Laying aside enslavement to the doctrines and dogmas of the physical mind; instead allowing the Christ within to be active...
"My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth" [1 John 3:18]
The gates of man's mind should be opened because they bar Spirit Power and Heavenly Truth through want of innocent purity and humility...
"...Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven" [Matthew 18:3,4]
"Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and shrewd in their own sight" [Isaiah 5:21]
"Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him" [Proverbs 26:12]
The rose has a hidden inner life-force that nurtures it to flourishing beauty; the Spirit of GOD remakes the mind which becomes enlightened by the True Light...
"When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, 'I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.' "
"There was a very light, that lights each man coming into this world" [John 1:9]
The True Light nourishes one, bringing a state of calmness and unwavering faith; the hidden power in the rose brings it to serene and abundant life...
"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labour or spin" [Matthew 6:28]
...permitting the mind of the Christ-Spirit within to displace the mind of the body results in abiding peace...
"Great peace have those who love your law,
And nothing can make them stumble" [Psalm 119:165]
...a wholesome, loving, interior peace that permeates from inner body to outer body to surroundings...
"Therefore has my heart been glad, and my honour rejoices, also my flesh dwells confidently" [Psalm 16:9]
"The One giving peace in your territory, He is satisfying you with the fat of wheat" [Psalms 147:14]
God's cleansing thoughts are seeds that unfold within, springing up to manifest - as a reflection of Divinity - in the mind of the spirit and not in the mind of the body...
"For God it is who is working in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure" [Philippians 2:13]
Therefore, the heart must permit only holy and pure images to the mind; else man becomes his corrupted images of the senses which are false imaginings...
"They conceive mischief and bring forth iniquity, and their mind prepares deception" [Job 15:35]
"...the Lord hates...
...a heart that devises wicked imaginations..." [Proverbs 6:16,18]
"This is what the LORD of the Heavenly Armies says: "Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you; they are giving you false hopes. They declare visions from their own minds - they do not come from the LORD" [Jeremiah 23:16]
The spiritual faculty for receiving and perceiving images should be handed over to Christ's total control, always keeping the heart and imagination unadulterated...
"How can a young person stay on the path of purity?
By living according to your word.
I seek you with all my heart;
Do not let me stray from your commands.
I have hidden your word in my heart
That I might not sin against you" [Psalm 119:9-11]
"Blessed are the pure in heart,
For they will see God" [Matthew 5:8]
"You therefore ought to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect" [Matthew 5:48]
Appreciate God's presence as Christ, be aware of Him within, reflect His thoughts, with the Eternal Mind enhancing and enlightening, then comes consciousness of continually renewed inspiration and revealments...
"For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, said the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you an expected end" [Jeremiah 29:11]
Peace and again Peace.
I appreciate how faithful and true you are to His Word , Lastpost
It is truly refreshing .
I was reminded of of Jesus words when reading your post :HeartThrob:
Clinging to His Words of Life [Spirit ] .
John 4 19 The woman said to him, "Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet.
20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship."
21 Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.
22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews.
23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.
24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
25 The woman said to him, "I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ). When he comes, he will tell us all things."
26 Jesus said to her, "I who speak to you am he."
Peace and joy in the Lord
I have come to a very simple and honest conclusion , If any motive is not done in the Spirit of Love ,it is for nought .
For God is Love .
:HeartThrob:
Quote from: rosered on May 24, 2015, 07:04:43 PM
I have come to a very simple and honest conclusion , If any motive is not done in the Spirit of Love ,it is for nought .
For God is Love .
:HeartThrob:
This is the core of all truth!
Separation, severance and darkness are alien to God's Unity, Divine Oneness, and Presence...
"But your depravities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have concealed his face from you..." [Isaiah 59:2]
"...for thy breach is great like the sea: who can heal thee?" [Lamentations 2:13]
"...and the light in the darkness did shine, and the darkness did not perceive it" [John 1:5]
The Christ is at One with God's Oneness, is God, and is eternal...
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning" [John 1:1-2]
How much of the Living Christ within does one express? Is one's mind wholly in union and accord with the Christ Mind?...
"Who has known the mind of the Lord so that he can teach him?" However, we have the mind of Christ" [1 Corinthians 2:16]
Thoughts of fulfilment, completion and reconciliation rise up from the Christ Mind within, yet looking out on creation, how much of the Christ-desire of fulfilment does one have?...
"Do not think that I came to undo the law or the prophets; I came not to undo the law, but to fulfil" [Matthew 5:17]
The beginning is also the end: Separation, severance and darkness are terminated with the God in Christ...
"This is what the Lord says - Israel's King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God" [Isaiah 44:6]
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End" [Revelation 22:13]
Love does not rest while separation and darkness claim His own; all must be brought back into the One Fold of Unity and Harmony...
"For thus says the Lord God: "Indeed I Myself will search for My sheep and seek them out. As a shepherd seeks out his flock on the day he is among his scattered sheep, so will I seek out My sheep and deliver them from all the places where they were scattered on a cloudy and dark day" [Ezekiel 34:11-12]
"What man of you having a hundred sheep, and having lost one out of them, does not leave behind the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go on after the lost one, till he may find it?" [Luke 15:4]
The Kingdom of God, through His Christ, shall be complete, with all reconciled to the Divine Oneness and Unity...
"Every valley shall be exalted
And every mountain and hill brought low;
The crooked places shall be made straight
And the rough places smooth;
The glory of the Lord shall be revealed,
And all flesh shall see it together;
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken" [Isaiah 40:3-4]
"The Lord is good to all, and His tender mercies are over the entirety of things He created.
All Your works shall praise You, O Lord, and Your loving ones shall bless You" [Psalm 145:9-10]
"And every creature that is in the heaven, and in the earth, and under the earth, and the things that are upon the sea, and the all things in them, heard I saying, `To Him who is sitting upon the throne, and to the Lamb, is the blessing, and the honour, and the glory, and the might -- to the ages of the ages!' [Revelation 5:13]
Peace and Joy in the Knowledge and Experience of His Love ✞
Again , beautifully said :HeartThrob:
Psalms 119
Thy Word
...159 Consider how I love Your precepts;
Revive me, O LORD, according to Your lovingkindness.
160 The sum of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting. Shin ..
161 Princes persecute me without cause, But my heart stands in awe of Your words....
I remembered this , the Sum[ Thy Word is true from the beginning] in the Psalms .. and saw Shin and was wondering about it , so I looked it up .
SHIN - 21ST LETTER OF THE HEBREW ALPHABET
the Hebrew letter SHIN The letter SHIN, being equivalent to the number three hundred in the Hebrew alphabet, and represents Divine power as it is the initial letter of two of the Names of God.
Shaddai, one of the names of God, begins with the letter SHIN. The word Shaddai is usually translated into English as 'Almighty'.
The SHIN appears on tefillin in two forms: on the left side of the one worn on the head, the letter is embossed with four splays, while on the right side of the one used for the arm, the standard three-headed version of the letter is used. These two forms represent the two kinds of Divine wisdom: the revealed and the concealed.
The letter SHIN alludes to Shabbat, the seventh day of Creation. This day signifies total rest from the week of work and is filled with peace and tranquility.
The letter SHIN stands for shalom, denoting peace and perfection.
GOD is worthy of being given more quiet time by His children...
"Be still [desist], and know that I am GOD: I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted throughout the earth" [Psalms 46:10]
...so that His reflection is gathered more and more upon the mirror of one's GOD-given image-receiving gift, and transformation into His likeness becomes a reality...
"So all of us, with faces unveiled, see as in a mirror the glory of the Lord; and we are being changed into his very image, from one degree of glory to the next, even as by the Spirit of the Lord" [2 Corinthians 3:18]
...as His children are meant to become holy...
"For I am your Lord GOD; be you holy, for I am holy. Do not befoul your souls with each creeping thing that moves upon earth" [Leviticus 11:44]
Transformation of the soul into His image requires patience and silence as the GOD in Christ within becomes more apparent...
"Only for GOD, be silent, O my soul, For from Him is my hope" [Psalm 62:5]
In the patient waiting, there has been an enormous wonder occurring behind the scenes, and much fruit is to be harvested as Divinity is manifested...
"And he said, `Thus is the reign of GOD: as if a man may cast the seed on the earth, and may sleep, and may rise night and day, and the seed spring up and grow, he hath not known how; for of itself doth the earth bear fruit, first a blade, afterwards an ear, afterwards full corn in the ear; and whenever the fruit may yield itself, immediately he doth send forth the sickle, because the harvest hath come'" [Mark 4:26-29]
One must shut out the propositions of devil of the senses of ages past...
"But you, when you pray, enter into your inner chamber, and having shut the door, pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who is seeing in secret, shall reward you manifestly" [Matthew 6:6]
...so that the expression of GOD in Christ can manifest in the body even now, and being at oneness with GOD so His Spirit-Blood surges through the heart...
"Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eye is healthy, your whole body also is full of light. But when it is evil, your body also is full of darkness. See to it, then, that the light within you is not darkness. Therefore, if your whole body is full of light, and no part of it dark, it will be just as full of light as when a lamp shines its light on you'" [Luke 11:34-36]
The soul is no longer separated from the whole of GOD's spiritual universe as exhilarating vibrancy is poured into the conduit of the soul which Christ has now recovered in completeness, reconciled - healed.
Peace and again Peace ✞
:HeartThrob:
Openly knowing, past , present and to come , there is not a soul on the face of the earth that does not need Gods love , mercy and grace
I know not one ........... :dsunny:
John 8
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And Yeshua spoke again with them and he said: "I AM THE LIVING GOD, The Light of the world.
Whoever follows me shall not walk in darkness but shall find the light of life."
John 1 3All things came into being through Him,
and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
4In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.
5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
Lord help us to understand your desire !
On opening one's eyes to the life which is real, it is meant to be into a wondrous dawn lighting up the land, with God visible everywhere, where completeness renders the part useless...
"...but when completeness comes, what is in part shall be put to an end" [1 Corinthians 13:10]
He of old, who sacrificed righteously to God, is still able to speak righteously because of his faith, even though his blood was spilt many centuries ago...
"By faith Abel offered to God a better sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained the testimony that he was righteous, God testifying about his gifts, and through faith, though he is dead, he still speaks" [Hebrews 11:4]
The Sacred Record, infused with Spirit Power, is the medium by which man interprets God's Wisdom wherein all things are revealed; it will never be superseded although it will be read more intelligently and better understood...
"In Thy statutes I delight myself, I do not forget Thy word...
Your word is a lamp for my feet, a light on my path...
I have gone forward in the dawn, and I cry, for Thy word I have hoped...
Mine eyes have gone before the watches, to meditate in Thy saying. ..
The sum of Thy word is truth...
According to Thy word cause me to understand"
[Psalm 119:16,105,147,148,160,169]
Angels minister to humankind out of Divine Love; spiritual vision is hindered by the dark cloud of fear which belongs to the senses of the world alone and not the senses of the Spirit; finding the Christ within removes all fear...
"The angel said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified" [Matthew 28:5]
The Spirit of Christ works ceaselessly and silently on man, and the end result will be that man is freed from being afraid of man, God and evil for God is Love...
"There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love" [1 John 4:18]
Fear and all that separates man from God will be removed with the increase of the Spirit of Christ because the Truth sets man free...
"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" [John 8:32]
God is Love ✞
I am of the opinion that 'Understanding' can bring a person closer to God...
Jesus materialised from the 'non-physical' to the 'physical' in a locked room full of people...
"Then on that same first day of the week, when it was evening, though the disciples were behind closed doors for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, Peace to you!" [John 20:19]
Personality is exactly the same after death as it was at the point of death, as demonstrated by Jesus when He proved that He was alive, the same Jesus with the same personality as before physical death...
"And having said this, he showed to them the hands and the feet, and while they are not believing from the joy, and wondering, he said to them, `Have ye anything here to eat?" [Luke 24:40]
Sometimes, one finds it hard to believe the Joyous Tidings that God is amongst us, that He has beaten out the path and shown the Way into a Life beyond human imagination...
"And he said unto them, 'O poor in understanding and slow in heart to believe on all that the prophets have spoken!" [Luke 24:25]
The scales fall from one's interior vision; being prepared by Christ to awaken to a fresh new understanding, with a consciousness of God that is truly alive, where Love is in every breath of one's being...
"And immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received sight forthwith, and arose and was baptized" [Acts 9:18]
Consciousness of God becomes un-shadowed; profound spiritual cravings are satisfied; all truths are no longer distant but part of oneself - as they always were; one need not wait for Heaven, God is in His Kingdom now...
"Neither will they say, 'Look, here!' or, 'Look, there!' for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you" [Luke 17:21]
Love does not rest pleasing and enjoying itself, but love must flow to where it is needed; overwhelming love is poured out on all, and the desire to inform of the Christ who lives within others is unquenchable...
"Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing" [John 15:4,5]
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me" [Galatians 2:20]
"...so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love" [Ephesians 3:17]
"to whom God did will to make known what is the riches of the glory of this secret among the nations - which is Christ in you, the hope of the glory" [Colossians 1:27]
The dwelling place of Christ is in the heart - and Christ is God; He is the power behind thought, He is in all space and beyond; He never leaves you; He is as close as breath - always as close as breath...
"It shall happen that, before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear" [Isaiah 65:24]
Peace and Goodwill to All Humankind ✞
:HeartThrob:
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures.....
Amen peace and good will to all mankind
Proverbs 8 Wisdom's Call
8 Does not wisdom call out?
Does not understanding raise her voice?
2 At the highest point along the way,
where the paths meet, she takes her stand;
3 beside the gate leading into the city,
at the entrance, she cries aloud:
4 "To you, O people, I call out;
I raise my voice to all mankind.
5 You who are simple, gain prudence
you who are foolish, set your hearts on it.
6 Listen, for I have trustworthy things to say;
I open my lips to speak what is right.
7 My mouth speaks what is true,
for my lips detest wickedness.
8 All the words of my mouth are just;
none of them is crooked or perverse.
9 To the discerning all of them are right;
they are upright to those who have found knowledge.
10 Choose my instruction instead of silver,
knowledge rather than choice gold
11 for wisdom is more precious than rubies,
and nothing you desire can compare with her.
12 "I, wisdom, dwell together with prudence;
I possess knowledge and discretion.
13 To fear the Lord is to hate evil;
I hate pride and arrogance,
evil behavior and perverse speech.
14 Counsel and sound judgment are mine;
I have insight, I have power.
15 By me kings reign
and rulers issue decrees that are just;
16 by me princes govern,
and nobles—all who rule on earth.
17 I love those who love me,
and those who seek me find me.
18 With me are riches and honor,
enduring wealth and prosperity.
19 My fruit is better than fine gold;
what I yield surpasses choice silver.
20 I walk in the way of righteousness,
along the paths of justice,
21 bestowing a rich inheritance on those who love me
and making their treasuries full.
22 "The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
24 When there were no watery depths, I was given birth,
when there were no springs overflowing with water;
25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
26 before he made the world or its fields
or any of the dust of the earth.
27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
30 Then I was constantly at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.
32 "Now then, my children, listen to me;
blessed are those who keep my ways
33 Listen to my instruction and be wise;
do not disregard it.
34 Blessed are those who listen to me,
watching daily at my doors,
waiting at my doorway.
35 For those who find me find life
and receive favor from the Lord.
36 But those who fail to find me harm themselves;
all who hate me love death."
Wisdom is justified of Her children ! :cloud9:
lovely... :HeartThrob:
It seems to me to be of vital importance to always be prepared for Christ, which means seeking renewal and growth from Him, which in turn brings one closer to God.
An ambiance of love hereafter is most easily entered by the loving disciple, fear gone, a pervading tone of fulfilling peace, rest and deep joy, of loving God and loving man awaits the prepared...
"Love does no harm to a neighbour. Therefore love is the fulfilment of the law" [Romans 13:10]
Abide deeply in the Love which is the harmonising chord behind the knowledge, power and wisdom which is of God...
"If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing" [1 Corinthians 13]
The false man of the senses seeks to imitate that which is of God...
" 'You are doing the works your father did.' They said to him, 'We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.' ..."Jesus said to them...You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires...When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies" [John 8:41-44]
True spiritual growth is from the centre of ones being; the outer man of the senses becomes amplified and aggrandised in that which does not belong to Christ...
"By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother" [1 John 3:10]
"By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?" [Matthew 7:16]
True growth is never characterised by hostility and aggressiveness...
"He guides the humble in what is right, and teaches them his way" [Psalm 25:9]
"For the Lord takes delight in his people; he crowns the humble with victory" [Psalm 149:4]
The Son of Man exemplifies the greatness of humility; inner growth occurs when the lack and the poverty of the things of the Spirit is recognised...
"...All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, 'God opposes the proud but shows favour to the humble' " [1 Peter 5:5]
"Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience" [Colossians 3:12]
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven...
Blessed are the gentle, for they will inherit the earth" [Matthew 5:3,5]
Hereafter, the soul is in a state of lowliness as it truly emerges out of the falsities of the senses, becoming emancipated from the unreal world, free of self with all its deceptions...
"Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven" [Matthew 18:4]
The soul is nourished by the True Vine, it is well to know God is at the centre of ones being, as spiritual roots abide hidden in silence while a tremendous work occurs...
"Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God" [1 Corinthians 4:5]
All is well, truly love all humanity each one, and allow the soul to know the greatest depths of Love so that its growth and work is steadfast and cannot be impeded by anything...
"But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash" [Matthew 7:26-27]
Disused building materials must be removed before the building is erected on the only sure Foundation - unsound thinking, improper actions, self-importance - all must become as nothing and replaced by the Christ within...
"For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ" [1 Corinthians 3:11]
If one is dead to all except the Divinity of the Christ within, failure is impossible...
"In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus" [Romans 6:11]
One can discern the mortal self by its self-serving nature, its desire to be applauded by the masses, its hankering after worldly prestige and illustriousness - what is built must be according to the Christ who has laid down the Way...
"Be not led astray; God is not mocked; for what a man may sow, that also he shall reap" [Galatians 6:7]
May the All-Love grant Peace and Joy to all mankind ✞
WOW !! God Bless you ............. This spoke to me today as a confirmation witness as working in the house this morning :HeartThrob:
[I wanted to apologise to Ronen, originally I only meant to post once in his thread, the context of which was about getting closer to God because we are "already in Him and that there can be no closer relationship...there can only be an every increasing awareness of it"]
Divine thoughts of God are manifested as His words - thus Divine thoughts are inherently more powerful than a weapon...
"For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword" [Hebrews 4:12]
One is made by one's most interior and highest thought - thought manifests as deed...
"Let the wicked forsake his manner,
And the unrighteous man his thoughts;
Let him return to the Lord, that he may have compassion on him,
And to our God, for he will abundantly pardon" [Isaiah 55:7]
At the centre of one's being is Christ with His judgment bar where actions are tested...
"For it behoves all of us to be manifested before the tribunal of the Christ, that each one may receive the things done through the body, in reference to the things that he did, whether good or evil" [2 Corinthians 5:10]
That which is unholy does not belong to the Higher Self and is cast into the outer darkness...
"And he said to him, friend, how did you come in hither, not having clothing of the marriage-feast? and he was speechless...
...Then the king told the attendants, 'Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth' " [Matthew 22:12,13]
The followers of Christ have many, many holy thoughts and deeds that can enter and enhance the Kingdom of Heaven...
"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world" [Matthew 25:34]
When the heart lives in Christ, then the thoughts of the Christ within produce heavenly treasure...
"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also" [Matthew 6:21]
Peace in Him
In HIM
If man could see he would find in his very place his own, a great host of witnesses...
" 'What do you want me to do for you?' Jesus asked him. The blind man said, 'Rabbi, I want to see' " [Mark 10:51]
To see is to let the Christ within take complete control, to live in God, then Spirit and life are
heard and
seen...
"The
Spirit gives
life; the
flesh counts for
nothing. The
words I have spoken to you—they are
full of the
Spirit and
life" [John 6:63]
Life becomes an
unceasing life of prayer in Christ, the tiniest detail is
lived in Christ,
not one good thought turned deed is without fruit, having
faith and
courage that the results are
real...
"Pray continually" [1 Thessalonians 5:17]
Help is immediate when the desire to help itself arises truly pure and unselfish...
"If you do away with the yoke of oppression,
With the pointing finger and malicious talk,
And if you spend yourselves in behalf of the hungry
And satisfy the needs of the oppressed,
Then your light will
rise in the darkness,
And your night will become like the noonday.
The Lord will guide you always;
He will satisfy your needs in a sun-scorched land
And will strengthen your frame.
You will be like a well-watered garden,
Like a spring whose waters never fail" [Isaiah 58:9-11]
From the heart can arise jewels without price, as thoughts of
holiness and
Christ-life,
pausing to hear the command which renews, regenerates and the God within expresses further aliveness...
"Speak to the entire assembly of Israel and say to them: '
Be holy because I, the Lord your God,
am holy" [Leviticus 19:2]
There are periods when man breathes the
same air as God, the Christ of God is victorious and takes the race of the
sons of God in His hand so they may with Him when He hears His Father's Love...
"And the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: 'You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased' " [Luke 3:22]
Surrendering all gains all, man is hurt through
separation by sin, God and man are in union when the
noble sacrifice is revealed further and further as the
veil lifts by the learning of
the life of Jesus...
"Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. But
whenever anyone
turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away" [2 Corinthians 3:15,16]
To exist
only in God, the Real, by cooperating with Him, is man's future, to
breathe out God even in the body, drawing from God at the centre, reinvigorating all - this man may do by God's Grace...
"On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And
the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations" [Revelation 22:2]
The awareness of the forgiveness of God is hindered by sadness and regret, for He pours out everlasting Love as fresh as the morning dew that expunges past sins, He only asks that man
turns to Him in recognition of his need for Him...
"Who
forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases" [Psalm 103:3]
Then
He joys to fill one to the brim so that there is an overflowing of Himself...
"Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for
they will be filled" [Matthew 5:6]
Beware and pray - and again, always watch, and again, always pray...
"
Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak" [Matthew 26:41]
You in Him Always - and Him in You Always
ah , so lovely ! God blesses with favor and protection
:HeartThrob:
Love is only equaled through forgiveness.
Quote from: micah7:9 on June 15, 2015, 04:56:56 PM
Love is only equaled through forgiveness.
Only at first, when LOVE is perfected there is no sin , error missing the mark
there is no sin To be sure, sin was in the world
before the law was given,
but sin is not charged against anyone's account where there is no law.
what is the perfect law to Love God first and foremost and love your brother as yourself
Hearing what the Spirit is saying and Doing the works of faith as living works of the Living God
...24
for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was. 25
But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does. 26If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and
yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless. 1John 3 there is no sin or error in Children of God having the Christ seed in them are the Children of the Day and the LIGHT OF CHRIST is shining in them
they forgive without need to be forgiven they remain silent before their accusers ..I am learning this is what pleases God , taking Christ example before the procurator and on the Cross before the FATHER
...4 Everyone who
practices sin also practices lawlessness; an
d sin is lawlessness. 5
You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. 6
No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. the seed is Christ and being planted and growing within you becomes strong in faith and overcomes all things by the Power of Gods Spirit working in you and by His own word that judges us continually and how we handle the
word of Life .. in high honor and regard...
Quote from: rosered on June 15, 2015, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: micah7:9 on June 15, 2015, 04:56:56 PM
Love is only equaled through forgiveness.
Only at first, when LOVE is perfected there is no sin , error missing the mark
there is no sin To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone's account where there is no law.
what is the perfect law to Love God first and foremost and love your brother as yourself
Hearing what the Spirit is saying and Doing the works of faith as living works of the Living God
...24for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was.
25But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does.
26If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless.
1John 3 there is no sin or error in Children of God having the Christ seed in them are the Children of the Day and the LIGHT OF CHRIST is shining in them
they forgive without need to be forgiven they remain silent before their accusers ..I am learning this is what pleases God , taking Christ example before the procurator and on the Cross before the FATHER
...4 Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.
5You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.
6No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.
the seed is Christ and being planted and growing within you becomes strong in faith and overcomes all things by the Power of Gods Spirit working in you and by His own word that judges us continually and how we handle the word of Life .. in high honor and regard...
My words had nothing to do with "sin,"[at least not intended] yet in my opinion I can not gain loves's equality or fullness without forgiveness. :HeartThrob: :dsunny: :2c:
For me, forgiveness is access door to love. It is also the only way to keep the door open. I feel like as long as I am on this earth, I only survive by being in a state of having been, and continually being, forgiven- because lets face it- we all stumble in many ways :banana:
I was sitting at the beach to watch the sun come up a few days ago with a friend of mine. We were jus chillin when he looked at me with tears in his eyes and said, "Its alllllllll about forgiveness". We talked about forgiveness for a long time and the presence of the Lord was awesome and sweet and thick as honey.
Mother Teresa is quoted as saying, "If you judge people, you don't have time to love them."
Unforgiveness puts a barrier up between us....unfinished business that will fester, unless it is addressed.
The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant
(Romans 12:14-21)
21Then Peter having come near to him, said, 'Sir, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him — till seven times?' 22Jesus saith to him, 'I do not say to thee till seven times, but till seventy times seven.
23'Because of this was the reign of the heavens likened to a man, a king, who did will to take reckoning with his servants, 24and he having begun to take account, there was brought near to him one debtor of a myriad of talents, 25and he having nothing to pay, his lord did command him to be sold, and his wife, and the children, and all, whatever he had, and payment to be made. 26The servant then, having fallen down, was bowing to him, saying, Sir, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all; 27and the lord of that servant having been moved with compassion did release him, and the debt he forgave him. 28'And, that servant having come forth, found one of his fellow-servants who was owing him an hundred denaries, and having laid hold, he took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that which thou owest. 29His fellow-servant then, having fallen down at his feet, was calling on him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all; 30and he would not, but having gone away, he cast him into prison, till he might pay that which was owing. 31'And his fellow-servants having seen the things that were done, were grieved exceedingly, and having come, shewed fully to their lord all the things that were done; 32then having called him, his lord saith to him, Evil servant! all that debt I did forgive thee, seeing thou didst call upon me, 33did it not behove also thee to have dealt kindly with thy fellow-servant, as I also dealt kindly with thee? 34'And having been wroth, his lord delivered him to the inquisitors, till he might pay all that was owing to him; 35so also my heavenly Father will do to you, if ye may not forgive each one his brother from your hearts their trespasses.' Matthew 18
And, also....
...23"Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering." Matthew 5
Last one......
...2"For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4"Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye?... Matthew 7
The river of truth is dammed up when the mind of the body concludes finality, which causes truth to separate from itself; the truth which is of God is not from the outer man but it unfolds gradually from within...
"...I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it" [Jeremiah 31:33]
Pure thought is transferred instantly; space is of the outer man, distance is not known by the pure thoughts of the interior being...
" 'How do you know me?' Nathanael asked. Jesus answered, 'I saw you while you were still under the fig tree before Philip called you' " [John 1:48]
...God's omnipresence allows heart and mind to rest unruffled; thought which is positive and pure cannot be interfered with; there is no distance as space is a falsity of the senses...
"When he inquired as to the time when his son got better, they said to him, 'Yesterday, at one in the afternoon, the fever left him' " [John 4:52]
One dwells in God, outside of Whom nothing exists; it is possible even in a body of flesh to overcome distance and space...
" 'For in him we live and move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring. ' " [Acts 17:28]
The mind of the senses casts shadowy illusions to hide the omnipresence of God, when in reality the inner being abides in the Supreme Being Who has placed His life in man...
"He that dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty" [Psalms 91:1]
...The tabernacle of God is indeed with men...
"I heard a loud voice out of heaven saying, 'Behold, God's dwelling is with people, and he will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God' " [Revelation 21:3]
...The unfathomable Love of God has always suffered when His children have suffered, He has always sought to redeem and carry His children...
"In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bore them, and carried them all the days of old" [Isaiah 63:9]
The earth is refreshed by cleansed water which itself gains power as it purifies, similarly the spiritual - that which is unseen - can be brought into the exterior life to purify it...
"Then he went out to the spring and threw the salt into it, saying, 'This is what the Lord says: "I have healed this water. Never again will it cause death or make the land unproductive." ' And the water has remained pure to this day, according to the word Elisha had spoken" [2 Kings 2:21,22]
...For the Spiritual to become manifest, what the Lord has commanded first and foremost - must be practised without reserve...
"...And thou shalt love the Lord thy God out of all thy heart, and out of thy soul, and out of all thine understanding, and out of all thy strength; this is the first commandment;
And the second is like it, this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself; greater than these there is no other commandment.' " [Mark 12:29-31]
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another" [John 13:34,35]
All have precious opportunity now; everywhere are brothers and sisters waiting to receive the out-flowing of love from the lives of those who have heard the Master, Who yearns for the increase of the great ocean of Love to wash away all disunity...
"Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" [Luke 6:46]
PEACE ✞
Spiritual flow is a beautiful Truth :HeartThrob:
One following Christ's teaching and example stores heavenly treasure and spiritual wealth for eternal life even now, whereas one serving self is unwittingly inviting misery...
"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal" [Matthew 6:19]
The emancipated soul, in surrendering all to Christ, realises, in little part, something concerning the heavenly blessings of the potential of its own short life on this material earth...
"However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven" [Luke 10:20]
Wherever there is existence, God, who fills all spheres of life, is there...
"Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the Lord. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord" [Jeremiah 23:24]
God is ever-present - eternally-in-the-present - He does not live in the physical past or the physical future; living outside of God is living erratically and in blindness...
"He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life" [Revelation 21:6]
A soul finds fulfilment so great in the eternal-present that the desire to look behind or forward is absent, knowing all is well as God is in the Present, and time is of the Physical alone...
"God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you" [Exodus 3:14]
LOVE alone gifts a blessed consciousness of living ever-presence - now - where each breath drawn is God-given, blowing away rotting past sins by calling all good life into the Present...
"And when he had thus spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth" [John 11:43]
Awakened from the falsity of time, to life in the God who is always in the never-changing Present - means the soul is eternally vibrant, everlastingly alive, each breath revealing a deeper, enriched springtime of Divine life...
"For I am the Lord, and I change not: and you the sons of Jacob are not consumed" [Malachi 3:6]
Life in the unchanging Present reveals the Living Christ within - birth, growth, consecration, temptation, physical death, rising from death, ascent to the Spirit Realms - all happening in the Now of the Christ within - as it always has done - outside of time, no past days, no future nights...
"To whom God did will to make known what is the riches of the glory of this secret among the nations - which is Christ in you, the hope of the glory" [Colossians 1:27]
All comes from the Christ who must be within, no outward teacher of the senses can bring the deep riches of Jesus the Christ for whom gratitude is constantly given...
"Thanks also to God for His unspeakable gift!" [2 Corinthians 9:15]
The whole race of the earth is raised up by the birth, life, death and rising of just one Soul...
"I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one" [John 17:11]
False reality portrays good and evil as being equal in potency; good alone is in the eternally-present - the Realm of Divine Love - yet the gift of God in man can spiritualise the earth by manifesting good...
"Therefore, Your Majesty, be pleased to accept my advice: renounce your sins by doing what is right, and your wickedness by being kind to the oppressed. It may be that then your prosperity will continue" [Daniel 4:27]
"Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good" [Romans 12:21]
May the Peace of the Present Be With You For All Eternally ✞
Thank the Lord Jesus Christ
Col 1 Thanksgiving and Prayer
3We give thanks to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
4 since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and the love which you have for all the saints/holy ones ;...
raised to Life and gathered in Christ Holy Spirit in God "the great gathering "
Hebrews 12 1Therefore, since we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also lay aside every encumbrance and the sin which so easily entangles us, and
, 2fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God....
Romans 13:12
The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
1 Corinthians 9:24
Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.
1 Corinthians 9:26
Therefore I do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air.
Galatians 2:2
I went in response to a revelation and, meeting privately with those esteemed as leaders, I presented to them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. I wanted to be sure I was not running and had not been running my race in vain.
Ephesians 4:22
You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires;
Ephesians 4:25
Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body.
Philippians 1:30
since you are going through the same struggle you saw I had, and now hear that I still have.
Hebrews 10:36
You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.
1 Peter 5:1
To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder and a witness of Christ's sufferings who also will share in the glory to be revealed:
May God continue to bless with His grace upon us all ,,,
The last word was spoken at the same time as the present word, time has not really passed, for time is of man not of God. The only day to exist is now when Christ was born – only now; yesterday and tomorrow is of man, who is created anew by the Living Christ power; Christ is eternally young and does not age...
"Herein has love been perfected with us that we may have boldness in the day of judgement, that even as he is, we also are in this world" 1 John 4:17
We are as Christ is – but the mortal thinking of the physical mind of the senses does not yet perceive this...
"Now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is" 1 John 3:2
The Spiritual is the only permanent and real World where spiritual beings live, the physical plane of the senses is the unreal; spiritual laws should be made manifest in the physical world as Jesus demonstrated: water cannot drown Spirit when it controls material atoms...
"Having rowed then about twenty-five or thirty stadia, they see Jesus walking on the sea and coming near the ship..." John 6:19.
Sickness, war and catastrophe exist due to man's deterioration, he acts on the material plane; yet if man lived in Spirit, and cooperated with Spirit, then this would not be...
"There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy tent" Psalm 91:10
The Fall exists presently, not in the past; man is happy with the shadow world, he is content with the false good; he continues to taste of the tree of good and evil, for his consciousness is not wholly filled with Christ...
3 ...but of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, God has said, Ye shall not eat of it, and ye shall not touch it, lest ye die... 6 and she took of its fruit, and ate, and gave also to her husband with her, and he ate... 8 and the man and his wife hid from the Lord God among the trees in the garden" Genesis 3
As the symbolism of the Old Testament becomes clearer to man, so he perceives the interior meanings of God. Within man, laws have been hidden, thus he affects even his water...
23 When they came to Marah, they could not drink its water because it was bitter... 25 Then Moses cried out to the Lord, and the Lord showed him a piece of wood. He threw it into the water, and the water became fit to drink. There the LORD issued a ruling and instruction... 26 He said, 'If you listen carefully to the Lord your God and do what is right in his eyes... I will not bring on you any of the diseases... for I am the Lord, who heals you.' Exodus 15
Dominion for the children of God was His intention, but man's misuse of the forces hidden in him affect the land and the climate, even the animals have been dragged down because of man's abuse...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the heavens, and over the cattle, and over the whole earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth". Genesis 1:26
Man's being and life are inextricably linked to his domain, the veil must be lifted and he must return to Eden; meanwhile man continues in material time to wait for a new Heaven and Earth which only comes if he is has full Christ consciousness...
"They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea" Isaiah 11:9
"The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the ox; and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, says the Lord" Isaiah 65:25
As did the murmurs and grumbles at Marah create bitterness, so thoughts that come from the senses create ashes and bitterness. Yet gratitude and praise shall bring the oil of joy...
"...To provide for those who mourn in Zion;
To give them a crown of beauty instead of ashes,
Oil of joy instead of mourning,
And splendid clothes instead of despair.
And they will be called righteous trees,
The planting of the LORD, to glorify Him" Isaiah 61:3
Even while journeying through the desert there shall be sweet waters, and milk and honey shall be repast...
"I have come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land to a good and broad land, a land flowing with milk and honey" Exodus 3:8
There shall be enough manna for each day...
"When they measured it with an omer, he who had gathered a large amount had no excess, and he who had gathered little had no lack; every man gathered according to his need" Exodus 16:18
The Divine manna that comes from Heaven is Christ made Man so that man may feed on Him in his heart by faith...
"I am the Living Bread that came down out of heaven. If anyone eats of this Bread he will live forever. And the Bread that I will give for the life of the world is My body" John 6:51
Rich and abundant are the gifts implanted within man by the Lord God Supreme, accede and comply with the Divine which is innermost and the fruit of the Spirit shall come forth, and heaven and earth shall provide abundance...
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, fidelity, meekness, self-control..." Galatians 5:22-23
"The young lions suffer want and hunger; but those who seek the Lord lack no good thing" Psalm 34:10
On the material plane of the senses, the way is hidden sometimes, and God seems to be silent...
"Why, O Jacob, do you say, and declare, O Israel,
'My way is hidden from the Lord,
And the justice due me escapes the notice of my God'?" Isaiah 40:27
It is only the senses which have constructed a veil of falsehood, suspicion, doubt and dread; yet the doors of revelation can be opened by holding a Hope that is certain and by consistently giving Thankfulness, under-utilised gifts that should not be secret...
"Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God" Philippians 4:6
One breath of God consumes the worldly senses, the Christ of God is ever present and the feet cannot slip. God's purpose is worked out within, and all shall be harmonised. The old body having played its part, shall be replaced by the new Spirit, and the veil shall be rent in twain, and then man shall be one with His God.
Peace.
Thanks Lastpost :HeartThrob:
Quote from: GodIsLove on August 11, 2018, 03:14:10 AM
Thanks Lastpost :HeartThrob:
Truly, thanks is the last thing I deserve, what is written above is not from me but it is wholly the words of a lovely Spirit messenger, that is 99% from the Spirit messenger and 1% from me to wrap it up so that it is presentable to the collective consciousness.
Yes, I am aware of the shape that some people's lips take at such a thought, I have seen it often. How can people be alive after they are dead when they cease to exist until God somehow makes them exist again but this time fit for the purest heaven because of a belief of the mind? Surely it must be the devil or a deceiving spirit dressed as shining angel!
Personally, I find it sad that mourning people - who suffer because of the absence of their loved ones - are not shown more clearly the continuity of life that the Master Christ demonstrated for all to see, and the definite happiness they have found, and that they are never separated, and that now the drug-like body is dropped they are now more sensitive, and that they are sad when they call to their mourning loved one looking at the permanently vacated chair but cannot hear or believe, and that they know nothing of life after death except vague conflicting statements which mean little to them. But, gladly, the time will come, I believe, when consciousness that the Gentle Jesus comes to meet His humble and meek servant to cross the river man calls death, when consciousness that those who love Christ will never see death shall be the prevailing faith, but that just not yet. I have spent most of my adult life studying and investigating this subject but I don't think I should spend my short time on earth typing about it.
I have said before that most of what I know of God and the undying love I have for the Saviour Christ has come to me from Spirit and the discerning of spirits, rather than from the Bible and the minds of men. If it was not for the early intervention of the Spirit then I think I would have passed away many years ago.
And I do believe that the aforementioned Spirit messenger would divert any gratitude to God, as personality becomes individually universal, if I may use such an apparent paradox.
Peace and Harmony – Harmony and Peace – they are as one when in Christ.
Lastpost, we hav spoken before about the whole spirit mssenger thing and teaching it. As before, you are welcome to fellowship here but you are not welcome to drop lead-ins to teaching what to me is no more than attributing the insights of ones own spirit and intellect to messages from saints who have passed. I have researched the sites connected to links you have shared in the past and my conclusions are that many of the so-called "spirit messages" are not spiritual. Though we may disagree on this, as a moderator for the site with the responsibility of maintaining the parameters of our discussion and keeping them centered on Jesus Christ as Lord, The Salvation of All, under the Authority of the Scriptures in the pure milk of the Word. This is my last warning to you. Next will be a permanent ban unless the other moderators veto me in this action.
Quote from: eaglesway on May 08, 2015, 09:08:52 AM
Thank u Lastpost for your contributions to this thred- they have been wonderful.
eaglesway, the contributions made here that you appear to find spiritual are not from my own spirit and intellect. I could show you directly where they have come from to demonstrate that it is not me "attributing the insights of ones own spirit and intellect to messages from saints who have passed" - but I feel that that would be a step too far for you in view of what you have said, and the last thing I wish to do is cause distress - that is absolutely the last thing I wish to do. Thank you for the offer of fellowship, albeit digital, it is truly welcomed and I will try to stay within the confines demanded by the site, indeed I thought I was doing so, but I will try to learn from this of course. Thank you.
Lastpost, I have found many of your posts to be very edifying. My causes for concern came from links you posted, which I followed out and found some things that are, imo, unnecessary and in error. These things are not things that would serve Tentmaker in the discussing, from my point of view or yours. On this site we have the Holy Spirit, the scriptures, and the fellowship of brothers and sisters as our parameters pertaining to our mission- proclaiming and teaching the salvation of all.
When the God within man is ruler, then the visible world is full of beautiful potential, man can become one with his surroundings. But when the lesser self is ruler, there is chaotic lawlessness which requires order; untamed forces are harnessed by a thorny ruler...
"One day the trees went out to anoint a king for themselves. They said to the olive tree, 'Be our king.'
"But the olive tree answered, 'Should I give up my oil, by which both gods and humans are honored, to hold sway over the trees?'
"Next, the trees said to the fig tree, 'Come and be our king.'
"But the fig tree replied, 'Should I give up my fruit, so good and sweet, to hold sway over the trees?'
"Then the trees said to the vine, 'Come and be our king.'
"But the vine answered, 'Should I give up my wine, which cheers both gods and humans, to hold sway over the trees?'
"Finally all the trees said to the thornbush, 'Come and be our king.'
"The thornbush said to the trees, 'If you really want to anoint me king over you, come and take refuge in my shade; but if not, then let fire come out of the thornbush and consume the cedars of Lebanon!' Judges 9:8-15
There exists an admixture in this shadow world, of both the God within man ruling and also the lesser self ruling, but man is evolving and the God within man shall rule the elements as demonstrated by Christ Jesus...
"And awaking up he rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, Silence; be mute. And the wind fell, and there was a great calm" Mark 4:39
Christ controlled His physical self fully, and as man He had the right of dominion over the elements...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion..." Genesis 1:26
The Divine Will is One, and can manifest only through the instruments that are selfless and at one with Him, for God is not many but One God...
"The Lord is our God, the Lord is one" Deuteronomy 6:4
The physical thinking man cannot observe the hidden treasures of God due to his spiritual blindness, symbolised by Cain's blindness of God's presence...
"...I will be hidden from your presence" Genesis 4:14
Within man is God's presence, Divine power; control does not come from the physical body but from the Christ within; there should be manifesting of love and completeness through the body; the healing work of Christ is working from within first, and then from without...
"Heal those who are ill, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give" Matthew 10:8
There should always be spiritual control, having no anxieties as to how to act when in stressful situations...
"But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say" Matthew 10:19
...But at all times have the mind of the Spirit; disallow the shadow world to impress dread, deficiency or uncertainty; dismiss the false thoughts of the earthly sense world as powerless demons...
"But turning round, he said to Peter, Get away behind me, Satan; thou art an offence to me, for thy mind is not on the things that are of God, but on the things that are of men" Matthew 16:23
God cannot fail, He waits patiently as He adores to pour Himself out, a wonderful and exquisite endeavour awaits all who allow the spirit within to control...
"Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,' says the Lord Almighty, 'and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it" Malachi 3:10
When the instrument is pure, the Divine blessing can be given; once the Christ has worked within, the blessing grows as the Christ works without; the more the giving of blessing, the greater the receiving of blessing...
"Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.'" Luke 6:38
Peace in Him
Acts 17:28 New International Version (NIV)
28 'For in him we live and move and have our being.'[a] As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.'
Footnotes:
Acts 17:28 From the Cretan philosopher Epimenides
Acts 17:28 From the Cilician Stoic philosopher Aratus
I believe in this! There is no separation!
Separation is a ilusion! We are united with God because God has Omnipresence!
Nobody can escape Him or stay away Him! There is no one place where God has no presence!
◄ 1 Corinthians 6:19 ►
New International Version
Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;
We live in God and God live in us! Inside us! Our spirit is a piece of the Great Spirit!
Quote from: lastpost on August 18, 2018, 12:35:59 AM
When the God within man is ruler
Just today in morning reading, study, and prayer time, I noticed how it's recorded in Mark, that Jesus told his disciples to beware the leaven of Herod. Now I never thought much about it before.. but today I thought, just what is the leaven of Herod? Beware the leaven of the Pharisees, is not hard to figure, they were strict law observers with added mens' traditions which some even contradicted God's commands.. So avoid a self righteous attitude, a judging of others attitude, etc.
But the leaven of Herod? Politics? Likely, I suppose, since Herod said he was Jewish yet his alliance was with Rome and his aims were political, so beware that leaven.
But it's coincidental to me that I ended up reading how emperors, by Romans, were esteemed as 'gods' or the son of a god - likely started as faint memories of the promise in Eden handed down). I read an interesting story of how Heirs to emperors were chosen, and his nephew, Octavious (who became Caesar Augustus, who decreed - in the days of Mary and Joseph - all go to their towns of birth to be registered) was Julius Caesar's heir..
When Julius Caesar was killed, Octavious/later Caesar Augustus, with his new money put on a big show of games "to honor Caesar", during which a comet appeared and was in the sky for the length of days the games were carried out, and the legend became that the comet was Caesar ascending to becoming a 'god'.. Which greatly helped his heir's career. This "ascending to the gods, or the ascending to become a god" I remembered is prominent in non-Christian/pagan belief. And it's called apotheosis.
My point is, in my opinion, apotheosis has no place in Christianity, where "humility" is a fruit of the Spirit. It's a change of character we need, pride being a big part of the carnal character we are to "overcome". A little leaven (untrue doctrine) is dangerous - will leaven the whole lump..
I think it may be a particular strong temptation in this day and age of intense criticism of God of the Bible, especially considering some things in the Old Testament. Strong temptation to trust man's word rather than God's Word. Yhvh, we can be sure, has done "all" things perfectly. But doubting this, listening to man's word, can cause us to mix into Christianity/our faith, pagan, nonbiblical ideas. I'm just saying.. it won't work. Or that is, if we will yield, yield, yield our self to Him, His spirit will guide us into all truth.
I used to mix nonbiblical things with the faith.. yes, pagan beliefs - And it's a paradox, that most indigenous faiths were built, likely, upon a profound truth someone found. And of course there are true threads in the pagan belief tapestries. Otherwise the tapestry would fall apart(? This is what I think, but who knows.. idk, but the idea persists :smile: )
So, it is rather hard to separate true threads from untrue. But we have the key. The truth is like a great treasure chest.. of treasures old and new.. I now think of those pagan ideas as husks the prodigal son found himself coveting when he was estranged from his loving father..
Just like the world is.. And how a lot of despairing people (despair seems to be on the rise? due to educating folks for some time now with man's word and theories?) - a lot of despairing folks might benefit if God's people could present the simple good news that He died for the whole world's sins, that
His kingdom will never end, and the meek shall inherit the earth.
To somehow come to the understanign that He, Himself, loves enough to suffer all things..
Which being life, I figure he does. And it's Him I want to worship not anything in myself.
Just my :2c: I don't mean to sound judgmental.. I totally understand.. I'm just so much happier and contented once I let go of extra biblical things and finally realized how to read God's word.. Idk, or can't remember.. but maybe it was finding UR on the web which gave me the stabiity of being able to love God more fully and to trust God's Word ..As the source of "
expressed truth and reason", Logos.
"The logos that gives light.." ..the wine, and, the bread... My outspoken attitude doesn't get me a lot of friends, lol.. :mblush: :flowerred:
Quote from: marie glen on August 20, 2018, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: lastpost on August 18, 2018, 12:35:59 AM
When the God within man is ruler
Just today in morning reading, study, and prayer time, I noticed how it's recorded in Mark, that Jesus told his disciples to beware the leaven of Herod. Now I never thought much about it before.. but today I thought, just what is the leaven of Herod? Beware the leaven of the Pharisees, is not hard to figure, they were strict law observers with added mens' traditions which some even contradicted God's commands.. So avoid a self righteous attitude, a judging of others attitude, etc.
But the leaven of Herod? Politics? Likely, I suppose, since Herod said he was Jewish yet his alliance was with Rome and his aims were political, so beware that leaven.
But it's coincidental to me that I ended up reading how emperors, by Romans, were esteemed as 'gods' or the son of a god - likely started as faint memories of the promise in Eden handed down). I read an interesting story of how Heirs to emperors were chosen, and his nephew, Octavious (who became Caesar Augustus, who decreed - in the days of Mary and Joseph - all go to their towns of birth to be registered) was Julius Caesar's heir..
When Julius Caesar was killed, Octavious/later Caesar Augustus, with his new money put on a big show of games "to honor Caesar", during which a comet appeared and was in the sky for the length of days the games were carried out, and the legend became that the comet was Caesar ascending to becoming a 'god'.. Which greatly helped his heir's career. This "ascending to the gods, or the ascending to become a god" I remembered is prominent in non-Christian/pagan belief. And it's called apotheosis.
My point is, in my opinion, apotheosis has no place in Christianity, where "humility" is a fruit of the Spirit. It's a change of character we need, pride being a big part of the carnal character we are to "overcome". A little leaven (untrue doctrine) is dangerous - will leaven the whole lump..
I think it may be a particular strong temptation in this day and age of intense criticism of God of the Bible, especially considering some things in the Old Testament. Strong temptation to trust man's word rather than God's Word. Yhvh, we can be sure, has done "all" things perfectly. But doubting this, listening to man's word, can cause us to mix into Christianity/our faith, pagan, nonbiblical ideas. I'm just saying.. it won't work. Or that is, if we will yield, yield, yield our self to Him, His spirit will guide us into all truth.
I used to mix nonbiblical things with the faith.. yes, pagan beliefs - And it's a paradox, that most indigenous faiths were built, likely, upon a profound truth someone found. And of course there are true threads in the pagan belief tapestries. Otherwise the tapestry would fall apart(? This is what I think, but who knows.. idk, but the idea persists :smile: )
So, it is rather hard to separate true threads from untrue. But we have the key. The truth is like a great treasure chest.. of treasures old and new.. I now think of those pagan ideas as husks the prodigal son found himself coveting when he was estranged from his loving father..
Just like the world is.. And how a lot of despairing people (despair seems to be on the rise? due to educating folks for some time now with man's word and theories?) - a lot of despairing folks might benefit if God's people could present the simple good news that He died for the whole world's sins, that His kingdom will never end, and the meek shall inherit the earth.
To somehow come to the understanign that He, Himself, loves enough to suffer all things..
Which being life, I figure he does. And it's Him I want to worship not anything in myself.
Just my :2c: I don't mean to sound judgmental.. I totally understand.. I'm just so much happier and contented once I let go of extra biblical things and finally realized how to read God's word.. Idk, or can't remember.. but maybe it was finding UR on the web which gave me the stabiity of being able to love God more fully and to trust God's Word ..As the source of "expressed truth and reason", Logos. "The logos that gives light.." ..the wine, and, the bread... My outspoken attitude doesn't get me a lot of friends, lol.. :mblush: :flowerred:
It's alright, MG! You don't sound judgemental, only trying to give His wisdom here, so I appreciate that. We are built up in Christ, and build each other up, and that is what I see here.
To be fair, when God is all in all, everyone will be "God." It is more of a title though. We will never be the Father, but everyone will be true brothers and sisters of Jesus, so just think about how amazing that will be!
Genesis 3
5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
22And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Psalm 82
6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
John 10
34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
And, through this life, and the next, who are becoming like? When we are (being) perfected in the Spirit, and all of its fruits, and knowledge and wisdom. But, to remember that it is nothing of ourselves, and without Him we are nothing. Literally :laughing7:
When talking about Truth and related, have you ever noticed how it is singular? One eye, one faith, one Lord, one baptism, one body...
Isaiah 28
15Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
16Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
17Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
18And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it
Psalm 46
10Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
Psalm 4
4Stand in awe, and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still. Selah.
Amen ML! Isn't it glorious!
Great verses! ..and thanks..
"God is good.."! :gsmile:
Quote from: Dandelion on June 16, 2015, 05:30:10 AM
Mother Teresa is quoted as saying, "If you judge people, you don't have time to love them."
Philippians 1
9And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment
Guess she didnt read this verse, huh?
When God judges, it is for correction, not "just to get back." It teaches us, similarly to how His Grace teaches us. Maybe a better name would be correction, just to make it clearer when we speak to one another of these things.
It should be discernment in judgment, full of Love, unto Salvation.
Jesus Christ is going to judge the world, the living and the dead. Does that make Him empty of Love? Of course not! He is given everything under Heaven and earth, and He is perfectly full of these things, the perfect expel for us for how to live. How would the Father live? Look unto Him, for that is how He chooses to reveal and declare Himself to us at this time.
John 14
8Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 1
18No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 5
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
I don't feel I'm getting closer to God. I feel I'm getting further away. That God is rejecting me and hates me. I can't blame Him, I can't see any reason why He wouldn't.
Quote from: lastpost on August 18, 2018, 12:35:59 AM
When the God within man is ruler
Not trying to pick on Lastpost.. sorry Lastpost, love many of your posts, but your lastpost, lol :laughing7: couldn't resist!
The thing I came back to say is I think the line between true and not quite true is sometimes an extremely thin line.. after all the adversary is an angel "of light".. And the good news is SO good, it doesn't benefit from anything else.. apotheosis is a long time dangerous idea.. It was part of the barbaric king priest systems which had no mercy of those they ruled.. And God as supreme ruler of all seems logical.. with all things in, and created through Jesus who is the head of all, under Yhvh, our Father, as 1 Cor 15:27,28 day about all things submitted to Jesus, except of course the One who put all things under Jesus.. We considered one body and Jesus as the head of that body, which I believe will endure age unto age unto age into infinity. That to me, seems utterly (only) wise.
Think how glorious! All stamped with God’s character, of love, gentleness, etc, especially love which includes the rest, and His Law (love) written upon every heart.
:Peace2: :HeartThrob:
Quote from: CST on August 21, 2018, 12:49:08 PM
I don't feel I'm getting closer to God. I feel I'm getting further away. That God is rejecting me and hates me. I can't blame Him, I can't see any reason why He wouldn't.
Hi, CST, I think we all feel like that sometimes. When it happens to me, I try to remember the things which have helped me greatly in the past.. since I've been following after the Lord since 1979, i've Had quite a few of those times, but with the keys the Lord has given me, and then reminds me of. It doesn't seem to happen often like it used to. For which I am veRy thankful.
I learned at such a time, any difficult time is "the" best time to be yield, yield, yielding to Him. How? By simply telling Him so. As a matter of fact one time I told him I yield, yield, yield myself to youLord, all my life and all my being.. my inner being. And you know what came right back at me? The thought - from Him I imagine and suppose it to be - that once I were to get down to the very floor of my being.. that is when I need to start tearing up floorboards. It was an image, not literal instructions of any sort, except spiritual. Which seems to me to mean my yielding will never, ever end. And that's a good thing, as he has the blueprint.. my blueprint.. yours.. all. As to the best, happiest, most fulfilled and satisfied blueprint/design of each one of us.
And yes I believe he loves us all. Loves you dearly. :HeartThrob:
I learned it's never Him - it's more of him, that's needed, yes, but it's not that the Son isn't shining, it's my clouds hovering over me that are blocking the Son light. I have learned during my many years that worship, love poured out, praise
will dissipate those clouds. The adversary - whether we believe is part of our own mind or self, or we believe he us a being adversarial to God - either way, the negatives (thoughts, impressions) come to us in our own voice. The adversary may wander/pace? to and fro "seeking whom to devour".. but rather than a roar or gravelly voice, the suggestions come in our own voice and thoughts. "Resist the enemy and he
will flee from you.. I usually remember to spot any negative thought.
These days I'm battling an attitude! Hubby is retired/a little disabled, so we are together a lot and he is very.. run the show.. all things are done his way.. :laughing7: I hate to be told how to do something, yep, he's bossy.. And only a 'botderline' believer.. (so he's not always right? Lol). But it's
my attitude I don't like, which rises up in me a bit all too often.
If I immediately repent toward the Lord and, or the Father and praise him, be thankful.. It's all good. But if I focus on the struggle, I have to remind myself that the faith life - "shall live by faith" - it's not how I feel that determines the reality of that walk, life and God's love, it's what's written that's true. And that is the reality. Otherwise, I simply deceive myself., or the adversary deceives me.
I used to get crabby from time to time.. :laughing7: I never do now, no never, lol. Well I usually don't. But somewhere a long time ago, in a novel somewhere, sometime, I read the phrase "in the grip of a foul spirit". Now ppl used to write in this manner and how far they meant it, I have no idea.. I read it at the time as in the grip of a foul mood.
But this was my halfway joke to myself, that if I was too crabby, I was in the grip of a foul spirit. Not funny is it? And it was my own foul mood. But who knows? May have been something more, according to the scriptures, not surprising. Now I don't mean I was possessed or anything! But one thing I do feel I know, is those fallen spirits do harass, and harass very well. In so very many different ways.
So of course it's not true that God doesn't love you. It's just a feeling. (Maybe even a threat! But not from God!) And feelings are not truth.
In my darkest days the Lord told me to "keep Sabbath" daily. I've been building on that ever since. On my past website, and now blog(s) I have a daily bible reading schedule that keeps me cemented into that truth, His Word. https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com (https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com). Right now it's all New Testament, except for the Psalms. I do this because I strongly feel Jesus gave us strong keys on the eve of his crucifixion when he said "come and eat" and he said take the bread and the wine, which to me is metaphor for God's Holy Spirit (the new wine) and the bread of life, the "logos that gives light". And how often do we need to eat and drink? To keep up our strength and we'll being..
The adversary end-less-ly puts forth ideas why not to trust God's Word, his written and revealed will. (Logos-written or expressed reasoning)
Thanks for this review! I've been just listing some of the things I've learned which have helped me in those very same battles. But I know we are all different and I haven't a clue what's up with anyone else.. Except I do know, beyond a doubt that God and our Lord love you very, very much! You are a treasure, a jewel. How do I know? He has said so.. "In that day" when He gathers his jewels.. I have the wording wrong.. hmmm, scratching head. I know it's there tho!
God bless! Sorry to babble on so.. and for any typos I've made on this tiny phone screen, lol.
Also.. if you are 'switching' from somewhat ET to UR.. it would be normal, I think, to feel some 'instability' as some things are falling away, and new foundations built (?)
:Peace2: :HeartThrob:
....P.S. - I forgot to say you are in my prayers today :Pray:
Quote from: MusicLover123 on August 21, 2018, 09:53:00 AM
Quote from: Dandelion on June 16, 2015, 05:30:10 AM
Mother Teresa is quoted as saying, "If you judge people, you don't have time to love them."
Philippians 1
9And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment
"And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and
depth of insight, so that you may be able to discern what is best and may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ" Philippians 1:9,10
Greek: kai touto proseuchomai, hina e agape humon eti mallon kai mallon perisseue en epignosei kai pase
aisthesei*
Philippians 1:9
*
aisthesei =
αἰσθήσει1. perception, not only by the senses but by the intellect
2. cognition, discernment
a. of moral discernment in ethical matters
"I pray that your love for each other will overflow more and more, and that you will keep on growing in your knowledge and
understanding" (NLT - Tyndale House)
"And it is my prayer that your love may be more and more accompanied by clear knowledge and keen perception, for
testing things that differ" Weymouth
Personally, I take this to mean a personal inspection on all motives, thoughts and actions passing through the consciousness of an individual – to check themselves, to ensure that all sentiments, reasons, motives, deeds are spiritual in the Christ sense...indeed with the aim of being "pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ".
To me this has absolutely nothing to do with judging others in the slightest but rather the opposite. Personally I always choose Christ as my Guide and take the sense and meaning as Truth:
"Judge
not, that you be not judged. For with the judgement you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" Matthew 7:1-3
Peace in Him
I understand that this website is regularly frequented by those using ways of thinking and interpreting the "All-in-All" of the ultimate Universal Salvation of humankind in the more literal manner.
One should never attempt to dislodge God's children from their faith. Personally I have a perspective that is, in my opinion, very beautiful and, according to my understanding of God, very God-like. And as I believe that God has opened my understanding to this, then it would be very difficult for me not to have such a perspective.
For instance, for me it all about Spirit – God is Spirit, His children are Spirit and Christ is Spirit. Simple and beautiful.
I believe that when Christ walked the earth as the perfected human being Jesus, He was completely conscious to the fullest extent possible of the Divinity in Him – the Divine Spirit in Him - the God in Him. He was also fully aware that He was in God. And as the perfect example of a human being, He knew what was also possible for the children of God. He knew that all Spirit is One, and He experienced this as a fact in His life as a human being – One with the Father and yet Himself – a state of Being. I believe it was to this wonderful situation that He was referring at such an important point in His earthly sojourn when He prayed...
"...that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one" John 17:20-22
Personally I take this to mean that God shall be all (things) in all (beings) – and for this little earth, this is achieved by the Birth, Life, Death and Resurrection of the man Christ Jesus, the "visible representation of the invisible God" Colossians 1:15
Leaving the term 'Spirit' aside, perhaps it might be easier to think of 'Christ' as being in a human being (a jar of clay) rather than the term 'God', knowing what this represents to some who see Him as an external separate Being.
"Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realise that Christ Jesus is in you – unless, of course, you fail the test?" 2 Corinthians 13:5
"But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness" Romans 8:10
"But when God, who set me apart from my mother's womb and called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son in me" Galatians 1:15-16
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me" Galatians 2:20
"My dear children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you" Galatians 4:19
"To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory" Colossians 1:27-28
So to me, I envision a wondrous future in Him, and it is not least because He is in us. And He must be allowed to rule - it is Him that is Ruler, not the lesser self.
Peace in Him
Amen, "in Him we live and move and have our being" and "Christ in us, our hope of glory"..
"the flesh" = https://biblehub.com/greek/4561.htm (https://biblehub.com/greek/4561.htm)
4561. sarx ►
Strong's Concordance
sarx: flesh
Original Word: σάρξ, σαρκός, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: sarx
Phonetic Spelling: (sarx)
Short Definition: flesh, body
Definition: flesh, body, human nature, materiality; kindred.
4561 (sarks) is generally negative, referring to making decisions (actions) according to self – i.e. done apart from faith (independent from God's inworking). Thus what is "of the flesh (carnal)" is by definition displeasing to the Lord – even things that seem "respectable!" In short, flesh generally relates to unaided human effort, i.e. decisions (actions) that originate from self or are empowered by self. This is carnal ("of the flesh") and proceeds out of the untouched (unchanged) part of us – i.e. what is not transformed by God.
Love as the fulfilling of the law, seems to me to point out that we are all, indeed, overcoming the self, the carnal character ..a matter of character, not as some in the very early church believed salvation/transformation was an issue of wisdom, insight, intelligence or knowledge, but is an issue of the heart :HeartThrob: .
"God is good!" :Peace2:
Salvation is being born of the Spirit. I like Paul's statements on fulness in Ephesians(especially eph 3:19)
1: 22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.
3:14 For this reason I kneel before the Father, 15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name. 16 I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18 may have power, together with all the Lord's holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
To be filled up to all the fulness of God is like being water in water(to me). The clay jar is only the cell wall of that which makes up the greater, single body. To be permeated with the Spirit, the divine nature, is what the first-fruits experience and what the whole universe will be brought into through the epiphany of Jesus the Lord of all spirits.
"Brethren, we know not yet what we will be, but when He appears we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is."
There is something there about "seeing Him as He is" that is the active factor in the transformation.
"And we all with unveiled face beholding as in a glass the Lord Jesus are being transformed, from glory to glory, into the same image by the Spirit, who is the Lord."
Permeated with the divine nature, in the union of love with joy unspeakable and full of glory- and I believe this is what they experienced at Pentecost, having been filled to overflowing with the Holy Spirit, which made them all of one heart and one soul- great grace being upon them all and the Word of the Lord multiplying among them, awash in the river, their voices like "the rushing of many waters".
For all we know and celebrate and learn together, since my early days in Christ I have longed and yearned for this revelation of the body of Christ to manifest, to "come down out of heaven"-" whenever two or three gather together in my name I am in the midst of them, and whatsoever you ask the Father in my name, it shall be done for you". I think this requires that love and that love requires that grace, so we pray, in accordance with the expressed will of our Lord.
"This I ask the Father, that you may be one, even as I and the Father are one, that your joy may be full"
The first fruits being the ark of testimony in the earth, the lamp on the lampstand shining light into all the house.
"Arise O to Thy dwelling place, Thou and the ark of Thy strength.
Let Your priests be clothed wth righteousness and Thy godly ones sing for joy."
Quote from: marie glen on August 21, 2018, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: CST on August 21, 2018, 12:49:08 PM
I don't feel I'm getting closer to God. I feel I'm getting further away. That God is rejecting me and hates me. I can't blame Him, I can't see any reason why He wouldn't.
Hi, CST, I think we all feel like that sometimes. When it happens to me, I try to remember the things which have helped me greatly in the past.. since I've been following after the Lord since 1979, i've Had quite a few of those times, but with the keys the Lord has given me, and then reminds me of. It doesn't seem to happen often like it used to. For which I am veRy thankful.
I learned at such a time, any difficult time is "the" best time to be yield, yield, yielding to Him. How? By simply telling Him so. As a matter of fact one time I told him I yield, yield, yield myself to youLord, all my life and all my being.. my inner being. And you know what came right back at me? The thought - from Him I imagine and suppose it to be - that once I were to get down to the very floor of my being.. that is when I need to start tearing up floorboards. It was an image, not literal instructions of any sort, except spiritual. Which seems to me to mean my yielding will never, ever end. And that's a good thing, as he has the blueprint.. my blueprint.. yours.. all. As to the best, happiest, most fulfilled and satisfied blueprint/design of each one of us.
And yes I believe he loves us all. Loves you dearly. :HeartThrob:
I learned it's never Him - it's more of him, that's needed, yes, but it's not that the Son isn't shining, it's my clouds hovering over me that are blocking the Son light. I have learned during my many years that worship, love poured out, praise will dissipate those clouds. The adversary - whether we believe is part of our own mind or self, or we believe he us a being adversarial to God - either way, the negatives (thoughts, impressions) come to us in our own voice. The adversary may wander/pace? to and fro "seeking whom to devour".. but rather than a roar or gravelly voice, the suggestions come in our own voice and thoughts. "Resist the enemy and he will flee from you.. I usually remember to spot any negative thought.
These days I'm battling an attitude! Hubby is retired/a little disabled, so we are together a lot and he is very.. run the show.. all things are done his way.. :laughing7: I hate to be told how to do something, yep, he's bossy.. And only a 'botderline' believer.. (so he's not always right? Lol). But it's my attitude I don't like, which rises up in me a bit all too often.
If I immediately repent toward the Lord and, or the Father and praise him, be thankful.. It's all good. But if I focus on the struggle, I have to remind myself that the faith life - "shall live by faith" - it's not how I feel that determines the reality of that walk, life and God's love, it's what's written that's true. And that is the reality. Otherwise, I simply deceive myself., or the adversary deceives me.
I used to get crabby from time to time.. :laughing7: I never do now, no never, lol. Well I usually don't. But somewhere a long time ago, in a novel somewhere, sometime, I read the phrase "in the grip of a foul spirit". Now ppl used to write in this manner and how far they meant it, I have no idea.. I read it at the time as in the grip of a foul mood.
But this was my halfway joke to myself, that if I was too crabby, I was in the grip of a foul spirit. Not funny is it? And it was my own foul mood. But who knows? May have been something more, according to the scriptures, not surprising. Now I don't mean I was possessed or anything! But one thing I do feel I know, is those fallen spirits do harass, and harass very well. In so very many different ways.
So of course it's not true that God doesn't love you. It's just a feeling. (Maybe even a threat! But not from God!) And feelings are not truth.
In my darkest days the Lord told me to "keep Sabbath" daily. I've been building on that ever since. On my past website, and now blog(s) I have a daily bible reading schedule that keeps me cemented into that truth, His Word. https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com (https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com). Right now it's all New Testament, except for the Psalms. I do this because I strongly feel Jesus gave us strong keys on the eve of his crucifixion when he said "come and eat" and he said take the bread and the wine, which to me is metaphor for God's Holy Spirit (the new wine) and the bread of life, the "logos that gives light". And how often do we need to eat and drink? To keep up our strength and we'll being..
The adversary end-less-ly puts forth ideas why not to trust God's Word, his written and revealed will. (Logos-written or expressed reasoning)
Thanks for this review! I've been just listing some of the things I've learned which have helped me in those very same battles. But I know we are all different and I haven't a clue what's up with anyone else.. Except I do know, beyond a doubt that God and our Lord love you very, very much! You are a treasure, a jewel. How do I know? He has said so.. "In that day" when He gathers his jewels.. I have the wording wrong.. hmmm, scratching head. I know it's there tho!
God bless! Sorry to babble on so.. and for any typos I've made on this tiny phone screen, lol.
Also.. if you are 'switching' from somewhat ET to UR.. it would be normal, I think, to feel some 'instability' as some things are falling away, and new foundations built (?)
:Peace2: :HeartThrob:
....P.S. - I forgot to say you are in my prayers today :Pray:
Unfortunately, we seem to vastly differ in our understanding and perception of God. I'm not sure because I don't entirely know how to describe my perception. You suggest I say in my prayers that I 'yield' to Him but I don't even know what it would mean to do that. I know saying it doesn't make it true and I know that saying it when it isn't true would be lying to God which I know from Acts is very bad.
I also thought I was yielding to God as best as I do understand. Trust Him, put all things on Him? I did that and waited for Him to respond. And waited and waited and waited. And so far as I can tell He's yet to do so. While I don't entirely know what yielding to God means I know it doesn't involve me staying stock still until suddenly He starts operating me like a puppet to do whatever He wants. Whether it's granting me what I ask for or me serving Him as He requires which may or may not be the same thing, it involves me acting proactively and I am utterly incapable of doing that. I simply don't know what to do or how to do it but believe wholeheartedly that if God want it to happen it will happen and if He doesn't won't. Unfortunately at the moment what is happening is nothing... and it's been this way for a long time.
Now I'm tired of praying at all because it seems to produce no results, but there's a part of me that things me getting further from God is actually the cause of these feelings.
And I know that if I resist evil it will flee from me but only until the next temptation comes along and then I have to resist it all over again. It is exhausting and seems futile, I'll always fail to resist eventually.
Quote from: marie glen on August 22, 2018, 12:31:59 AM
Amen, "in Him we live and move and have our being" and "Christ in us, our hope of glory"..
"the flesh" = https://biblehub.com/greek/4561.htm (https://biblehub.com/greek/4561.htm)
4561. sarx ►
Strong's Concordance
sarx: flesh
Original Word: σάρξ, σαρκός, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: sarx
Phonetic Spelling: (sarx)
Short Definition: flesh, body
Definition: flesh, body, human nature, materiality; kindred.
4561 (sarks) is generally negative, referring to making decisions (actions) according to self – i.e. done apart from faith (independent from God's inworking). Thus what is "of the flesh (carnal)" is by definition displeasing to the Lord – even things that seem "respectable!" In short, flesh generally relates to unaided human effort, i.e. decisions (actions) that originate from self or are empowered by self. This is carnal ("of the flesh") and proceeds out of the untouched (unchanged) part of us – i.e. what is not transformed by God.
Love as the fulfilling of the law, seems to me to point out that we are all, indeed, overcoming the self, the carnal character ..a matter of character, not as some in the very early church believed salvation/transformation was an issue of wisdom, insight, intelligence or knowledge, but is an issue of the heart :HeartThrob: .
"God is good!" :Peace2:
You are aware that this is a big definition for one word? It's not, I'm sure, what the word actually means but rather what numerous Biblical scholars, who also tend to believe in ET remember, have decided the NT writers mean when the use it based on the occasions when it is used and it's Hebrew equivalent in the OT.
Young's Literal Translation
Jesus saith to him, 'Because thou hast seen me, Thomas, thou hast believed; happy those not having seen, and having believed.'
John 20:29
1 Chronicles 16:11
Seek the LORD and His strength; Seek His face continually.
Deuteronomy 4:27-29
"But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul.
Psalm 27:4-8
When You said, "Seek My face," my heart said to You, "Your face, O LORD, I shall seek." And now my head will be lifted up above my enemies around me, And I will offer in His tent sacrifices with shouts of joy; I will sing, yes, I will sing praises to the LORD. Hear, O LORD, when I cry with my voice, And be gracious to me and answer me.
"There is something there about "seeing Him as He is" that is the active factor in the transformation".
"The first fruits being the ark of testimony in the earth, the lamp on the lampstand shining light into all the house".
The above are 2 quotes from eaglesway.
I agree. :iagree:
D.