Are we still sinners?

[ChristianBrother]

once we are sinners
we are forgiven by the sacrifice of Christ
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Heb 9:14  How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
so our conscience is purged by the blood of Christ to leave the dead works..
We are still in the sinful body
this is why are baptising into Christ and buried our body unto the death of Christ. we left our old life .. we are started new life and we got new spirit.
Rom 6:4  Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5  For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6  Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7  For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8  Now if we BE dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
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even we are in the sinful body...
even we are with tempting in body
SIN CAN NOT GOVERN ON US

Rom 8:3  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
JESUS SENT ME FREE
NOT 10% NOT 30% NOT 80% BUT 100%

SIN CAN NOT GOVERN ON US, IT CAN TEMPT. BUT CAN NOT GOVERN US. THANK YOU JESUS. PRAISES TO YOU HEAVENLY FATHER.

[CST]

But each time we succumb to that temptation then surely, in those moments, Sin is governing us rather than God? And we succumb to temptation quite a lot, I think.

[marie glen]

Amen we are not perfect, but are being perfected. By His Spirit and Word at work within us. Sin cannot be master over us. But we still have flaws. I may react in anger, but if God's Spirit is truly at work within me, it should not be that anger be master over me, ruling my behavior and attitude. If a brother or sister acts like a busybody at one time or another, that's not shocking, but if they are always being a busybody (as the slang/cliche goes :laughing7: ) then I would seriously have to wonder! If they are genuinely believing or not.. if it continues without change, which change I consider to be works, though likely not the only works/fruit/evidence of genuine faith, but surely a very large part!

Not to be confused with the "ceasing form our own works/efforts" as pertaining to salvation; the opposite being resting in His far, far superior, finished work, a resting in Him. And an abiding on the vine that we bring forth fruit and "the work which He has begun in us, He is faithful to complete and bring to completion" - a work going on in us, transforming us, unless we are or become hard of heart (letter, Hebrews) and thus don't believe and so we do not enter the promised rest (but remain outside. :mshock: )

So if I was being ruled by anger, or being a habitual busybody, entering His rest concerning it, should work a deliverance!

[ChristianBrother]

What is the action of the blood of Christ? 

how much power is there in the blood of Christ?

what is the meaning of burial with Jesus Christ?

how much we benefited? still we are depending on our works? means to stay strong with fighting in the flesh

How did God call us as saints? 25% saints? 50% saints? 100% saints

or only still doing sin and only depending on grace?

still sinning? still repenting? still depending?

what is the transformation in soul and body too?

I like to challenge all of you to think..on the fact how God has placed us..

as i am growing in holiness i have tasted different experience

My heart is willing to flee, willing to cry, willing to go and live in the desert.


Psa 55:6  And I said, Oh that I had wings like a dove! for then would I fly away, and be at rest.

Psa 55:7  Lo, then would I wander far off, and remain in the wilderness. 

Psa 55:8  I would hasten my escape from the windy storm and tempest.