Syria

[Jock]

Well, as soon as I turn on the news I am assaulted with a spirit of fear. Then politics wants to divert my mind. Then the moral issues of chemical warfare, and/or Tomahawk missiles flying into Syria.

I am subject to the will of our Father in heaven and my prayer is: Lord, your will be done.

Prov 15;3 
The eyes of the LORD are in every place,
Watching the evil and the good

Blessings all

Jock :Chinscratch:

[jbertonbounds]

We must be so careful not to let political issues consume our thoughts.  These things distract us from keeping our focus on the Father and his will. 

"Father, help me to keep my thoughts focused on you and your will and precepts.  Let me not stray into worldly issues, but rather help me to stay in a spirit of worship and love, not yielding to temptations.  Walk with me, Father, and hold my hand.  I need your sweet fellowship and your power.  I need your grace." :Pray:

[sheila]

Please pray for the persecuted christians in the middle-east especially.  Syria has in it's western part a place called

    'the valley of the christians" were many have fled.  If any are in a position to help monetarily..there are various places

  you can go.   I TELL YOU,WHOEVER GIVES A DRINK OF WTER UNTO THESE LITTLE ONES THAT BELEIVE IN ME

  SHALL NOT LOSE HIS REWARD.

[jabcat]

Please pray for the persecuted christians in the middle-east especially. 

Amen. 

[VineBranch]

And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Matthew 24:6

[Jock]

Thanks to all you guys for pointing my eyes to where they should be! Shiela, there are Christians being persecuted all over the middle east right now, I pray for all of them and I will remember those you mentioned.

Jertonbounds, your prayer was a sweet smelling savour to my soul. thanks everybody.

Jock  :Pray:

[Jock]

Here's what Martin Zende r has to say about politics and our relationship to it. Enjoy

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsKIv6GvoQ

Jock

[bj127]

Martin Zender and Clyde Pilkington have done more "for me" to clearly answer my questions than any other source so far.   :banana: :banana: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:

[Jock]

Cool bj!

Zender encourages me to be myself and not wear a mask of righteousness or try to train my flesh to be a "good person".

Jock

[VineBranch]

Here's what Martin Zende r has to say about politics and our relationship to it. Enjoy

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsKIv6GvoQ

Jock

Hey jock:

Thanks for posting that link.  I do however have a few concerns.

firstly:  Are you sure he was sober when he made that video?

secondly:  Are you sure you want to emulate someone who is so cavalier about human suffering and pain?

[Jock]

Thanks Vine Branch, for your questions.

I have a background of emulating men (in churches and groups) and my wife and I ended up being spiritually terrorized. I swore never to follow a man again. I enjoy Martin Zender but I am NOT Martin Zender!

I am me and my heart continues to be softened and shaped to the image of Christ. Your question about Zender being cavalier about human suffering, I didn't get that from the video. I have suffered in my life ( which I won't go into now) but human suffering on every level is part of being in this world. In a way, I'm glad that I have suffered because it opens opportunity at times to share my hope with others.

I hope this clarifies things for you?

Regards

Jock.

[Jock]

VineBranch

Even if he was drunk, he made sense to me  :dontknow:

Jock

[marie glen]

Here's what Martin Zende r has to say about politics and our relationship to it. Enjoy

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsKIv6GvoQ

Jock

  Aha! He starts out so good.. "when we re-alize that God wAnts humanity to fail"..!!! - amen :)

And his attitude is SO good.. as to what our attitude toward world affairs should be..

But when it comes to prophecy... imo, he loses it by seeing "the beast" (of this era) as religious.. by thinking in terms of 6 billion years.. by saying it's prophesied we will crush Islam.. But hey.. we all are right about some things, not so right about others, yes? :)

The dove will end up being confederate with the vulture..

I.e, (Imo) Islam & its "beheadings" become part of the world body(rev 13:1-10) and the world beast/body receives strength and authority (which it does not have now and is pretty lame) but it is given breath (strength/life/authority) when the 2nd beast (the little one, rev 13:11-18) steps in and does so!

The 2nd (little) beast is actually an office, one which is plainly shown (imo) by the (new, windy) fire it released
"from the sky in the sight of man" on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945!(imo). Rev 13:13

Therefor - the 'end' cannot (imo) come until:

   1- the little beast/two-horned office, which dropped fire on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, joins wholeheartedly, or steps into the prime seat of the world body
   2 - the world body (finally) becomes strong by this ("who can make war with the beast?")
   3 - the pause of seal 6 (thermal nuclear warfare) is over.. i.e. seal 6 which (imo) is thermal nuclear warfare is once again released. Albeit limited? [SEE rev (seal)6:12 to 7:1 and 8:1(the pause of) & 13:13(the windy fire and,or fiery wind of 6:12-17)]
   and 4, there's more..

Remember, the seals are described as a blend of what they are at the very 1st and what they are at the very 'end' - thus things which occur very late on the planet are described here so early.. which works very well to confuse the vision for many days.. One of at least two locks - another lock, ..is there are 4 inserts, smack dab, in the middle of the Book of Revelation narrative.

It's my belief prophecy, along with the rest of God's Holy Word can (and should?) be understood clearly so we have an answer for those who might ask (or, in the case of prophecy, might worry)..
  :hiya: God bless!

[Tom]

Here's what Martin Zende r has to say about politics and our relationship to it. Enjoy

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsKIv6GvoQ

Jock

I've communicated with Martin online, and he is a brother in Christ. I respect his interpretation of scripture, but I don't share his political persuasion. I do agree though that human government is not the answer to the problems of humanity. Christ is the answer, and there won't be a righteous government until he returns.

[VineBranch]

VineBranch

Even if he was drunk, he made sense to me  :dontknow:

Jock

I appreciate that Jock, but that wasn't actually the point.

[Jock]

Well VineBranch  When I watched the video it never once entered my mind that he was drunk

I don't think I have anything else to say on that
Blessings

jock