Stars signs

[WhiteWings]

I think many believe Revelation is an "end times book".
I know many here don't feel that way but it's not important right now.
I'm quite sure the woman standing on the moon clothed with the sun appeared when Jesus was born. Viewing from Patmosthe constellation Virgo (=Virgin) was standing on the moon. The sun clothed her by shining at teh hight of her womb.
Of course that's all highly figurative because Vigro of course never really stood on the moon. The star the Magi followed was real too. That's to complex to explain. But I will say that was also highly figurative.
If Virgo predicts his 2nd coming I don't know. But I don't think so.

Now about Aquarius. That's a bit tricky because it may be astrology instead of astronomy. There is a fine line between it. Many call everything starsign related pagan astrology. But the Bible is full of refrences to stars. I think Nathan started a thread about "Witness of the stars" by Eby. (or something similar.
Anyway the age of Aquarius lasts ~2000 years and is about to start in 2012.

The keyword in all I wrote is ALSO.
If it's really about His return it does not excluded all kind of other meanings. Just like the described Virgo was really an alignment of stars but it was ALSO a real birth from a real woman.
Read this article about Vigro etc. http://www.askelm.com/star/index.asp
Especially chapter 4 and 3/5th down chapther 5
If you don't feel like reading watch this short and very informative animation. Then you know how a star can stand still. http://www.askelm.com/video/real/xmas_star.swf

I wanted to suggest this thread to be split of because it's of topic.
Or not? I truely don't know. :dontknow:
^YLTRev 12
15 and the serpent did cast forth after the woman, out of his mouth, water as a river, that he may cause her to be carried away by the river,

Serpent=Draco. Woman=Virgo. Water= Aquaris. Maybe it's a starry riddle again.....
Revelation the book of signs is the book of star signs?????

[HartleyIrvinDamboiseII]

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[Taffy]

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[Nathan]

The symbolism in the stars, starts way back at the creation of the universe . . .

Genesis 1
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

The moon and stars are used as measuring devices for this realm which everything is governed by time.  But the anomoly there is the use for "signs".  I was astounded to learn how the signs in the zodiac actually are connected to the life of Christ and later became the tabboo subject in the church that they are now.  It's hard to imagine with our limited minds, but God placed each star for a purpose and a sign.  As illuminaries, they merely remain stationary and give off a constant light.  As such, their placement is key to the message their sign proclaims. 

The one thing about the zodiac that always intrigued me was the fact that someone, thousands of years ago, looked up into the stars one night and "saw".  In the configurations and couplings of these billions of stars, they saw in them animals and objects after they were connected together.  From that they saw the symbolism connected to them.  But if you look up at the stars, you don't see lions, crabs, virgins or whatever, all you see is a sky full of stars.  It takes a skilled and trained eye to identify which ones are visible through out the year.  Yet we pass through all 12 of them from one year to the next.  Much like the 12 seasons of the tree in Revelation that brings forth a different fruit "each month". 

Then in Jude it speaks of false prophets as wandering stars .. .it refers to men as stars.  If a wandering star is a false prophet, then a fixed star would be a true prophet or mouthpiece of God's voice to others.  And as such, we too would then be placed, fixed, assigned to our places in life as we become one of a gazillion other stars that make up just one sign, just one symbol, just one message that bonds together with other star symbols, other living stones that have also been assigned to illuminate in their fixed places that as we all become assembled together, we become the full gospel that proclaims every facet of the nature of Christ.  In that I can see how they could then come up with 12 dimensions . . .but that's a whole other subject.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9:  :thumbsup: And the courses of the priests line up with the thought of something being set in the heavenlies (inner court realm) and, Him ORDERING the steps of the righteous. Also ties in with Deborah (means bee, from it's ORDERLY habits).

The UNrighteous wandering stars are as Cain, the murderer, exiled to the land of Nod (means to wander). Blessings....

[Nathan]

Oooooh . . .I like the connection you see there between Cain and the wandering star . . . which is connected to the false prophets . .the more you dig into that, the more you see how Cain leads to religious leaders . . .wandering stars.  Not just people who've never seen God, but religious who claim they have but all they've seen is an image of God that either they, or someone else erected before them.  There is a light still in them, but you can't depend on it.  There is a light in all men, but only those whose light has come "in" to THE light find their place of order that stops the wandering . . .

I love it!!!

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9:  :thumbsup: And isn't it interesting that Jesus called the Pharisees, "of their father the devil" who was a murderer from the beginning. Bet they knew He was sizing them up as Cain's wandering stars, ie. priests who were really not in their courses.

It's funny to be how everything with God seems to be a paradox. On the one hand, wandering, on the other, having a fixed position. But in reality, His fixed position is really always moving, in a way, because in once sense, the only way He changes not, is that He is always changing and we have to keep up with pace with Him as He moves us, as we follow Him. Hope that was clearer than mud.  :laughing7: My  :2c:

[Molly]

Wandering stars are the planets--

In antiquity the classical planets were the non-fixed objects visible in the sky, known to various ancient cultures. The classical planets were therefore the Sun and Moon and the five non-earth planets of our solar system closest to the sun (and closest to the Earth); all easily visible without a telescope. They are Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. The name planet comes from the Greek term πλανήτης, planētēs, meaning "wanderer", as ancient astronomers noted how certain lights moved across the sky with the other stars. They called these objects asteres planetai, or wandering stars. Together they form the seven classical planets, as well as the names of the seven days of the week - Sun-day, Moon-day, Saturn-day, and in Latin, 'Martis' (Mars, Tuesday), 'Mercurii' (Wednesday), 'Iovis' (Jupiter, Thursday) and 'Veneris' (Venus, Friday).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandering_Star

[jabcat]

I think many believe Revelation is an "end times book".
I know many here don't feel that way but it's not important right now.
I'm quite sure the woman standing on the moon clothed with the sun appeared when Jesus was born. Viewing from Patmosthe constellation Virgo (=Virgin) was standing on the moon. The sun clothed her by shining at teh hight of her womb.
Of course that's all highly figurative because Vigro of course never really stood on the moon. The star the Magi followed was real too. That's to complex to explain. But I will say that was also highly figurative.
If Virgo predicts his 2nd coming I don't know. But I don't think so.

Now about Aquarius. That's a bit tricky because it may be astrology instead of astronomy. There is a fine line between it. Many call everything starsign related pagan astrology. But the Bible is full of refrences to stars. I think Nathan started a thread about "Witness of the stars" by Eby. (or something similar.
Anyway the age of Aquarius lasts ~2000 years and is about to start in 2012.

The keyword in all I wrote is ALSO.
If it's really about His return it does not excluded all kind of other meanings. Just like the described Virgo was really an alignment of stars but it was ALSO a real birth from a real woman.
Read this article about Vigro etc. http://www.askelm.com/star/index.asp
Especially chapter 4 and 3/5th down chapther 5
If you don't feel like reading watch this short and very informative animation. Then you know how a star can stand still. http://www.askelm.com/video/real/xmas_star.swf

I wanted to suggest this thread to be split of because it's of topic.
Or not? I truely don't know. :dontknow:
^YLTRev 12
15 and the serpent did cast forth after the woman, out of his mouth, water as a river, that he may cause her to be carried away by the river,

Serpent=Draco. Woman=Virgo. Water= Aquaris. Maybe it's a starry riddle again.....
Revelation the book of signs is the book of star signs?????

Let's see what it does?  Interesting OP WW.

[Molly]

Serpent=Draco. Woman=Virgo. Water= Aquaris. Maybe it's a starry riddle again.....

12 On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, when it was customary to sacrifice the Passover lamb, Jesus' disciples asked him, "Where do you want us to go and make preparations for you to eat the Passover?"

13 So he sent two of his disciples, telling them, "Go into the city, and a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him. 14 Say to the owner of the house he enters, 'The Teacher asks: Where is my guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?' 15 He will show you a large room upstairs, furnished and ready. Make preparations for us there."

16 The disciples left, went into the city and found things just as Jesus had told them. So they prepared the Passover.

--Mark 14



Aquarius, the water-bearer

Aquarius is a constellation of the zodiac, situated between Capricornus and Pisces. Its name is Latin for "water-bearer" or "cup-bearer", and its symbol is  (Unicode ♒), a representation of water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarius_(constellation)


"Anyway the age of Aquarius lasts ~2000 years and is about to start in 2012."
--ww

Did we experience the age of Aquarius out of due time, that is, the last 2000 years?= first fruits

[sheila]

 
  you need rain/water, if your going to produce fruit.  In Elijah's day the sky was shut up as long as he prophesied...see two wittness that shut up sky

and turned water to blood...til they finished their prophesying.[1260/Jesus minisrty.then were killed and lay dead[testimony lay dead]

  til breath of life entered them...and voice fromheaven said come up here..went to heaven in cloud


..elijah killed false prophets of baal...before rain.....a cloud the size of a man's hand come up out of the sea


  the son of man coming on the clouds of heaven


   Now Moses testified that God wanted Israel set free to go 3 days journey in the wilderness and worship God... and Pharoahs magicians worked signs too[can you

say lying signs]  ..and plagues etc  were worked til the people were delivered.


and Elijah worked a showdown against the prophets of Baal, a drought come upon the earth and Elijah mocked the false prophets..til finally fire came down

from heaven and accepted Elijahs offering and the false prophets were destroyed..only then was a cloud  the size of a man's hand seen


   the testimony of the two wittness 'tormented' those on earth[did you come to torment us before the appointed time]//

  and now, what do you think are the plagues etc worked in Revelation of Christ are about..but to destroy the false and bring the deliverance of the people


and after this is worked..you shall see a cloud about the size of a mans hand,coming up out of the sea...Elijah will run ahead of Ahab all the way and

the black clouds and heavy rain will chase Ahab[those connected to Baal/Babylon/Jezebel] all the way to Jezreel  Hosea 1;4 Jezreel means God scatters/

her used to announce judgement on the reigning house


   Matthew 26;64    He will come and fight them with the sword of His mouth [Rev 2;16  3;3 but ifyou do not wake up,I will come like a theif,and you will not know what

time I will come to you  3;10 I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world

[WhiteWings]

All tribes have a starsign. The most well known in Juda=Lion=Leo.
To much booze the last few day so my brain need a little reboot....
Aquarius is asigned to a tribe that fell from Father's grace.
Don't ask me for a verse; but I'm very sure that water bearer unlocks something.

[WhiteWings]

"Anyway the age of Aquarius lasts ~2000 years and is about to start in 2012."
--ww

Did we experience the age of Aquarius out of due time, that is, the last 2000 years?= first fruits

I have to say the age of Aquarius is astrology stuff.
But the star of Bethlem has lots a and lots, as in 100%, parallels with astrology.