Jhn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: :HeartThrob:
Num 21:9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. :thumbsup:
Isa 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that [is] in the sea.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. :thumbdown:
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Who is leviathan?
Rather what is levithan....perhaps a crocodile. I believe that Gen. 1:21 will give us a good study.....sea monsters. :2c:
Leviathan is the "fleeing (fugitive)" serpent as well.
YLTJob 26
13 By His Spirit the heavens He beautified, Formed hath His hand the fleeing serpent.
I think it's also conselation Draco (dragon)
The woman standing on the moon is the Virgo constelation. Also in Revelation is a woman fleeing into the wildernes and the dragon casts water after her. Plus Jesus saying to follow the man with the pitcher (Aquarius). I wonder if these things are really about something or someone. They can also be seen as cosmic clock....
Levitan is something translators don't agree on
לויתן
livyâthân
BDB Definition:
1) leviathan, sea monster, dragon
1a) large aquatic animal
1b) perhaps the extinct dinosaur, plesiosaurus, exact meaning unknown
It might be one of those mystery creatures we discussed in another thread. Unicorn an bemoth.
Anyway I must admit I'm completely lost at the root word of Leviathan...
לוה
lâvâh
BDB Definition:
1) to join, be joined
1a) (Qal) to join, be joined, attend
1b) (Niphal) to join oneself to, be joined unto
2) to borrow, lend
2a) (Qal) to borrow
2b) (Hiphil) to cause to borrow, lend to
Job 41:1 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord [which] thou lettest down?
The sea with ships and Now a Tongue which needs Binding-? and Hook, sounds like Only the Lord can Catch[ A sea beast ?, all men are beasts likened to FISH who also Live in the SEA] and Bind[ the tongue] :icon_flower:
Leviathon is likened to the SERPENT raised in the wilderness ?
whos Leviathan?
PS WW
a Flood CAN BE LIKENED TO that of DEATH- ie when the LORD Flooded the EARTH? Just Maybe the SEA is a REALM of DEATH- The sea Give up the DEAD then there was NO MORE SEA? :icon_flower: also Just could the SEA beneath be the the OC [ also the realm of Death] the Sea ABOVE Named HEAVEN being the NEW C? :icon_flower:
QuoteJesus saying to follow the man with the pitcher
WELL- WHO IS The
WATER OF THE WELL is the
Pitcher of LIVING water-ever read anything on the Mikvah WW- explains MUCH about WATER and Baptism especially about JB .
A pitcher is a Clay POT , eartheN pot or flesh pot , HE IS THE LIVING WATER OF LIFE WITHIN]
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SO YES WW the PITCHER is a SOMEONE.. :icon_flower:
Quote from: Taffy on March 20, 2011, 12:23:18 AM
SO YES WW the PITCHER is a SOMEONE.. :icon_flower:
Virgin=constellation Virgo=star sign=His mother=pinpointing the time of His birth. ==> both a person and a time
same for Pitcher=Aquarius= etc ????
Quote from: WhiteWings on March 20, 2011, 12:40:39 AM
Quote from: Taffy on March 20, 2011, 12:23:18 AM
SO YES WW the PITCHER is a SOMEONE.. :icon_flower:
Virgin=constellation Virgo=star sign=His mother=pinpointing the time of His birth. ==> both a person and a time
same for Pitcher=Aquarius= etc ????
Are you saying the constellations are going to be predicting something? like the time of his return?
Jhn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
just as Moses raised up THE SERPENT in the wilderness, so must THE SON OF MAN be raised up!! our OLD MAN was crucified WITH HIM Our NATURE = Carnal mind Having DIED, NOW , REBORN being RAISED with HIM :icon_flower: :icon_flower:
Brass is Judgment, we are HIS feet of Brass[ Rev 1:5 & 2:18] [ HE paying the judgment due to US therefore TRUE judgment now is MERCY and compassion]
Num 21:9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived
The serpant of the Garden BIT [enchanted EVE- the POISON - lies of DEATH in the Tongue]
The Serpant NOW HAVING being Judged is raised up where DEATH no longer has POWER OVER LIFE-HENCE, - THAT IF a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived[/b]
It whY we are Given to STAND ON serpents[ TO BE CARNALLY MINDED is DEATH]
Luk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy:[ The Tongue opf the Crnal MIND] and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
the Posion of the scorpion is the LIES in the TAIL
Isa 9:15 The ancient and honourable, he [is] the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he [is] the tail.
now the serpent is l;ikened to the devil, leviathan,and the DRAGON who is slain in the """""""""""SEA""""""""""""""""""""2 :icon_flower:
Pro 18:21 Death and life [are] in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof. :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:
Whos Tongue Needed COOLING with"LIVING"" WATER--- His ToNgue Burning in the TORMENTS of the""""""""""""""""""" GRAVE"""" ? WHAT iS He and what was HE PREACHING for HIS Tongue to be ON FIRE?
Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord [which] thou lettest down?
Quote from: Molly on March 20, 2011, 12:46:36 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on March 20, 2011, 12:40:39 AM
Quote from: Taffy on March 20, 2011, 12:23:18 AM
SO YES WW the PITCHER is a SOMEONE.. :icon_flower:
Virgin=constellation Virgo=star sign=His mother=pinpointing the time of His birth. ==> both a person and a time
same for Pitcher=Aquarius= etc ????
Are you saying the constellations are going to be predicting something? like the time of his return?
Dunno it did for the birth of Jesus.
http://askelm.com/star/index.asp Chapther 4 and 3/5 down of chapther 5.
http://askelm.com/video/real/xmas_star.htm
The age of Aquarius starts in 2012 and lasts about 2000 years. If it's really a prediction I would expect a little more than just the man with the pitcher :dontknow:
"There is no life without water."
peacemaker
Quote from: peacemaker on April 16, 2011, 08:38:11 AM
"There is no life without water."
peacemaker
That statement friend is deep, and I reason that there is much to hear and find within that word.. ]"There is no life without water." :grin:
tis a Shame this thread never concluded- :sigh: poor leviathan remains playing in the ships----having his porr brains bashed in- tongue bound- drawn from the sea-- then just to be called a great dragon and burnt in some firely fabled pit---- what a Life egh :icon_flower:
Not be the pain that I am, BUT who is to say "tis a Shame this thread never concluded," (Taffy) but who is to say that the thread had not ended where it did...perhaps it was over.
Hey Taffy, I myself believe and thought the thread about that particular beast was very much a good post. But as I said how do we know that that was not where it stopped, it was the end(temporarly) let us go further and get more informed as to what this "great monster" is or was.
Gen 1:21 And God prepareth the great monsters (sea monster)
Quote from: micah7:9 on April 17, 2011, 05:48:15 AM
Not be the pain that I am, BUT who is to say "tis a Shame this thread never concluded," (Taffy) but who is to say that the thread had not ended where it did...perhaps it was over.
Hey Taffy, I myself believe and thought the thread about that particular beast was very much a good post. But as I said how do we know that that was not where it stopped, it was the end(temporarly) let us go further and get more informed as to what this "great monster" is or was.
Gen 1:21 And God prepareth the great monsters (sea monster)
In the Main Micah we are speaking different languages-- so for the litralists-- ill give my two pennies come the LITERAL take-- excuse the sarcasm Micah--- its Not generally pointed to you But made to make a POINT--- so the crocodille with many scales is Leviathan who dwells upon the river banks of Africa, unlike the Aligator who rests mainly with the shores of the USA---there nasty little critters who eat anything.. kinda partial to MEAT of any form... not beasts to play with thats for sure---there not like Lambs , sheep ,calves in the stall, doves,goats, pigs, or any animal cloven at the hoof,lions, bears, bees,eagles, owls, wolves, raven or serpents or vipers,- there just good old literal BEASTS---youll find an illustration of them in any good comic books , similar to that Comic book written by Dante about HELL--- BUT HELL FIRE is a LITERAL abode isnt it--where they BURN literal FOLK----?
maybe we now know who that nasty little creature is---
Blessings :icon_flower:
In job Cptr 3 , he kinda begins to CURSE the day he was BORN ---- well who wouldnt being BORN of FLESH--
Job 3:8 Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to raise up their mourning.= [leviathan] obviously he\others must have had a PET croc somewheres hidden within a Ship probably sunk in some DEEP SEA - :dontknow:
Psa 104:26 There go the ships: [there is] that leviathan, [whom] thou hast made to play therein. -- yeah it coming together now Micah- its was a Ship which sunk in the sea where the sea monster croc was being compared to--
maybe we can have a Little poetic Licence> Let them CURSE it that CURSE the day , who are READY [in their deep sea GEAR] TO RAISE the Croc which had sunk in a ship[which must have been by the stormy waters] :dontknow:
Job 3:1 After this opened Job his mouth, and cursed his day.
Job 3:2 And Job spake, and said,
Job 3:3 Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night [in which] it was said, There is a man child conceived.
Job 3:4 Let that day be darkness; let not God regard it from above, neither let the light shine upon it.
Job 3:5 Let darkness and the shadow of death stain it; let a cloud dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it.
Job 3:6 As [for] that night, let darkness seize upon it; let it not be joined unto the days of the year, let it not come into the number of the months.
Job 3:7 Lo, let that night be solitary, let no joyful voice come therein.
Job 3:8 Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to raise up their mourning.
If you ever go Fishing catch us one of those GREAT sea Monsters Micah--- ill beat there Brains in-- as that all the scriptures say there good for , then feed the heads to those in the Desert who crawl in the DUST-- CAN YOU RECOMMEND any good BRAIN bashing , head chopping intrument bro-- ? :dontknow:
Psa 74:12 For God [is] my King of old, working salvation in the midst of the earth.
Psa 74:13 Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.
Psa 74:14 Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, [and] gavest him [to be] meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.
Psa 74:15 Thou didst cleave the fountain and the flood: thou driedst up mighty rivers :icon_flower:
Quote from: TaffyJob 3:8 Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to raise up their mourning.= [leviathan] obviously he\others must have had a PET croc somewheres hidden within a Ship probably sunk in some DEEP SEA -
Interesting.
"mourning"H3882
לויתן
livyâthânliv-yaw-thawn'
From H3867;
a wreathed animal, that is,
a serpent (especially the crocodile or some other large sea monster);
figuratively the constellation of the dragon; also as
a symbol of Babylon: - leviathan, mourning.
Looks like the wreath has an ancient history. A symbol of mourning, a symbol of death, relating to the serpent, also known as Satan,--Leviathan-- who brought death to man in the garden of God. A wreath worn on the head of Christ,-- he who would conquer death by crushing the head of the beast.
Relating also to the constellation of the dragon. There's some 25,000 year cycle concluding with that one in 2012. How did these ancient peoples have so much knowledge about the stars?
Relating also to Babylon, the system of those who worship the dragon to this day, those who love death, as long as it is someone else's death.
Ok, I can only chew small pieces at a time.
Quote from: Molly on April 17, 2011, 03:23:06 PM
Quote from: TaffyJob 3:8 Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to raise up their mourning.= [leviathan] obviously he\others must have had a PET croc somewheres hidden within a Ship probably sunk in some DEEP SEA -
Interesting.
"mourning"
H3882
לויתן
livyâthân
liv-yaw-thawn'
From H3867; a wreathed animal, that is, a serpent (especially the crocodile or some other large sea monster); figuratively the constellation of the dragon; also as a symbol of Babylon: - leviathan, mourning.
Looks like the wreath has an ancient history. A symbol of mourning, a symbol of death, relating to the serpent, also known as Satan,--Leviathan-- who brought death to man in the garden of God. A wreath worn on the head of Christ,-- he who would conquer death by crushing the head of the beast.
Relating also to the constellation of the dragon. There's some 25,000 year cycle concluding with that one in 2012. How did these ancient peoples have so much knowledge about the stars?
Relating also to Babylon, the system of those who worship the dragon to this day, those who love death, as long as it is someone else's death.
Ok, I can only chew small pieces at a time.
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Molly one respects the translators efforts - BUT not even those Grasped the true Symbolism sister--- and when one doesnt-- they revert back to the Literal-- as thats all they have--
Blessings
Isa 27:1 ¶ In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that [is] in the sea.
Leviathan is again the Nature of the beast- Carnal MIND :sigh:
To slay means to slaughter-- put to death---but why would HE slay the DRAGON in the SEA?
what dwells in the sea? what that GREAT BEAST that comes from the SEA----
does Not the LORD seperate LIFE from DEATH? shown by the Two Covnants.. as The NIGHT which comes before the DAY--the DARKNESS which comes before the LIGHT? we all KNOW the SEA ABOVE is HEAVEN--- which is likened to our minds in the NC--- its where LIFE is right?
so what of the SEA beneath? --the GREAT FLOOD which Drowned the WICKED---- what is The spiritual Reality of Jonah and THE GREAT FISH in the SEA? why does the SEA like HADES give up the DEAD? why did Christ Make FISHERMEN ""FISHERS OF MEN" shown by theM casting their net into the SEA from the RIGHT side of The BOAT IN the DAY when they CAUGHT FISH as In the NIGHT they caught NOTHING? why does the LORD encourage Pater to WALK ABOVE the SEA where HE WAS WALKING?
if the SEA above is the heavens known as the GREAT CITY which comes down to EARTH[ MY KINGDOM Come ON EARTH as it is in HEAVEN then heaven comes to EARTH? WHAT DOES the SEA beneath represent? we all know the meaning of WALKING in the HEAVENLIES---but what of the SEA and fish?
Again In Geneisis it notes the the two CS[ opps] I mean the two seas are seperated---- could the SEA beneath then represent the OLD C... bieng LIKENED to the Ministry of DEATH.. the ABODE of HADES= HELL? FOR some reason there always seems to be another witness---
so how does one RAISE from the sea Beneath being likened to fish[ man] who dwells in this similtude of Hades----? who has the POWER to raise the DEAD to LIFE? who has the POWER to rescue and catch the fish in the SEA... who has the POWER over such SEA beasts---who has the POWER to HOOK the Mouth and CLAMP the Tongue of death shown as the pHArisees andlikened to the RICHMAN\Lazarus= carnal mind who spoke it..ie they WHO SIN with the DOOR of their LIPS-as Paul said his fathers who spoke from the TOMB-- = teaching the doctrine of DEATH? who has POWER oover the PLACE of the Skull[ Golgotha] to raise the CARNAL minded dead from the depths of the SEA...
Death is the realm of the dead Likened to the SEA--- Christ lowered HIMSELF into our REALM slaying death with HIS LIFE---yes?
HOW LONG are we going to put the BLAME on some poor non existent entity for OUR DEATH? --when the LORD purposed it from the Beginning----
Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
The lord riding upon a [YOUNG]ass- check out the root of this RED beast ------
ya reckon theres symbolism - another parable? :icon_flower:
HOW LONG are we going to put the BLAME on some poor non existent entity for OUR DEATH? --when the LORD purposed it from the Beginning----
Taff
Don't get to palish with the devil, now Taff, or Stan the man, as you call him!. :icon_jokercolor: :happy3:
Quote from: thinktank on April 17, 2011, 10:32:09 PM
HOW LONG are we going to put the BLAME on some poor non existent entity for OUR DEATH? --when the LORD purposed it from the Beginning----
Taff
Don't get to palish with the devil, now Taff, or Stan the man, as you call him!. :icon_jokercolor: :happy3:
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such is the
OLD MAN Stan dead at birth BRO
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our
old man is crucified with [him], that the
body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth
we should not serve sin. Rom 6:7 For he that is
dead is freed from sin. Rom 6:8 Now if we be
dead with Christ, we believe that
we shall also live with him: :HeartThrob:
Thanks to Jesus, he overcomes where we fail.
Quote from: thinktank on April 17, 2011, 10:43:40 PM
Thanks to Jesus, he overcomes where we fail.
amen-- THE fall[ng came due to our nature designed from the off which WE can now call Stan the MAN- The sarx Man his COAT made of SKIN- :icon_flower:
For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected [the same] in hope
Hey TT- where the old satan part In this--- The creature US made subject toVANITY-- void of TRUTH? where art thou ADAM? he says hes Hidding[ LOST] having been made subject to vanity--- HES dead to the TRUTH.. one who needs to be MADE awake---
The serpent is within our MIND--- the curse upon it was to remain in the EARTHLY realm= Literal - crawling uopn its BELLY= MIND feeding off others who were\dead dead = those who remain in the DUST- Trusting in EARTHlY wisdom- NOT able TO RAISE to another LEVEL bro--- :HeartThrob:
tis why the Old dragon keeps getting cast back to ths DEAD realm= EARTH---- this is The DOMAIN which he dwells... Until hes Consumed BY fire--- :HeartThrob:
Quote from: TaffyRom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Going back to my literal ways--Does this say we are given a new body? The literal body of Christ which Satan has no part in?
Ok bear with me, here, because I was looking at that passage in Jude today about strange flesh relative to the Nephilim:
7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. --Jude 1
"strange" flesh
G2087
ἕτερος
heteros
het'-er-os
Of uncertain affinity; (an-, the)
other or different: - altered, else, next (day), one, (an-) other, some,
strange.Even though this is referencing sex between man and [male angel] as was desired by the men of Sodom, it is not called 'homo' but 'hetero' meaning there is a difference in the type of flesh between man and angel. The angels have strange flesh relative to the men, that is, there are different types of bodies.
So what that passage you quoted is describing--is it a literal change of the body--or, if you like, the flesh?
Does Jesus literally change the body of man on the cross?
12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15Having abolished
in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain
one new man, so making peace;
16And that he might reconcile both unto God
in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners but fellowcitizens with the saints [holy ones], and of the household of God;
--Eph 2
Quote from: Taffy on April 17, 2011, 10:59:16 PM
For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected [the same] in hope
Hey TT- where the old satan part In this--- The creature US made subject toVANITY-- void of TRUTH? where art thou ADAM? he says hes Hidding[ LOST] having been made subject to vanity--- HES dead to the TRUTH.. one who needs to be MADE awake---
The serpent is within our MIND--- the curse upon it was to remain in the EARTHLY realm= Literal - crawling uopn its BELLY= MIND feeding off others who were\dead dead = those who remain in the DUST- Trusting in EARTHlY wisdom- NOT able TO RAISE to another LEVEL bro--- :HeartThrob:
tis why the Old dragon keeps getting cast back to ths DEAD realm= EARTH---- this is The DOMAIN which he dwells... Until hes Consumed BY fire--- :HeartThrob:
2 Timothy 2:26
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
subject to vanity...Does God consider the devil vain?
QuoteGoing back to my literal ways--Does this say we are given a new body? The literal body of Christ which Satan has no part in?
the body we dwell in is HIS MOLLY now apart of HIS FLESH and Bones aswe are ONE---
Quote7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
all such is for our examples- again I see sodam \gOMORRAH LIKENED TO bABYLON- FORNICATION FOR MINE IS TO mix SPIRITand Flesh - -- Babylon for mine means Mixing \Confusion purely by Having HIS seed in US HIDDEN behind the veil, yet to be revealed while the CARNAL mind is the HEAD of the body of MAN--- The Lord is NOT of Confusion, tis only when Babyl;on FALLS--- = the falling of MAN= carnal mind -the veil of WITHIN is OPEN revealing HIM from within---again Molly its another Picture of the CROSS----such is the lake of Fire..
QuoteDoes Jesus literally change the body of man on the cross?
The BODY of SIN MOLLY is the carnal MIND lest the BODY would also persih in the LOF-- arguably a part of the ET reasoning?
ITS our mind which are PURGED,, the REFINING FIRE until all whats left is HIS IMAGE--- :icon_flower:
Right over my head, LOL.
Tell me this--did you agree with anything I said?
Or maybe you don't agree that it is literal--I'm thinking of it literally.
Quote from: thinktank on April 17, 2011, 11:23:03 PM
Quote from: Taffy on April 17, 2011, 10:59:16 PM
For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected [the same] in hope
Hey TT- where the old satan part In this--- The creature US made subject toVANITY-- void of TRUTH? where art thou ADAM? he says hes Hidding[ LOST] having been made subject to vanity--- HES dead to the TRUTH.. one who needs to be MADE awake---
The serpent is within our MIND--- the curse upon it was to remain in the EARTHLY realm= Literal - crawling uopn its BELLY= MIND feeding off others who were\dead dead = those who remain in the DUST- Trusting in EARTHlY wisdom- NOT able TO RAISE to another LEVEL bro--- :HeartThrob:
tis why the Old dragon keeps getting cast back to ths DEAD realm= EARTH---- this is The DOMAIN which he dwells... Until hes Consumed BY fire--- :HeartThrob:
2 Timothy 2:26
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
subject to vanity...Does God consider the devil vain?
here we go again-- Satan means to Oppose accuse etc
Seems some like ADAM wandered from HIM who IS TRUTH therefore became liars , murderers and theives HELD in THE bondage of the OWN error of DISCERNMET bro---to lose ones faith means to SHIP wreck? wow SHIP... a ship a ship... O h leviathan who PLAYS in the SHIPS :icon_joker:
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Quote from: Molly on April 17, 2011, 11:37:54 PM
Right over my head, LOL.
Tell me this--did you agree with anything I said?
Or maybe you don't agree that it is literal--I'm thinking of it literally.
:HeartThrob: :icon_flower:
YES mOLLY THE ENMITY PASSAGE YOU MENTIONED AT THE END--sorry about the caps--- maybe Nate will be along later and break it down some sis--- :icon_flower:
He has made us fellowcitizens with the holy ones--natives of the same town--born again in Zion--literally a new born child, new body, new mind, new man.
Psalm 87
1His foundation is in the holy mountains.
2The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
3Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God. Selah.
4I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there.
5And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her.
6The LORD shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there. Selah.
7As well the singers as the players on instruments shall be there: all my springs are in thee.
Quote from: peacemaker on April 16, 2011, 08:38:11 AM
There is no life without water.
"Born of the Spirit, after death of the flesh."
We are the creation being born from above, but man has exalted himself. Born again carries the connotation of being born anew, but it appears that many have not died to self.
No spring yields both salt water and fresh "living" water, for what is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is Spirit. But what the Spirit perfectly unites, no man will separate, for the two shall become one; having a new heart of flesh.
Peace, be with you.
That is just plain beautiful. Thank you :icon_king:
Quote from: Taffy on April 17, 2011, 11:39:59 PM
Quote from: thinktank on April 17, 2011, 11:23:03 PM
Quote from: Taffy on April 17, 2011, 10:59:16 PM
For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected [the same] in hope
Hey TT- where the old satan part In this--- The creature US made subject toVANITY-- void of TRUTH? where art thou ADAM? he says hes Hidding[ LOST] having been made subject to vanity--- HES dead to the TRUTH.. one who needs to be MADE awake---
The serpent is within our MIND--- the curse upon it was to remain in the EARTHLY realm= Literal - crawling uopn its BELLY= MIND feeding off others who were\dead dead = those who remain in the DUST- Trusting in EARTHlY wisdom- NOT able TO RAISE to another LEVEL bro--- :HeartThrob:
tis why the Old dragon keeps getting cast back to ths DEAD realm= EARTH---- this is The DOMAIN which he dwells... Until hes Consumed BY fire--- :HeartThrob:
2 Timothy 2:26
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
subject to vanity...Does God consider the devil vain?
here we go again-- Satan means to Oppose accuse etc
---
I know, every name has some kind of meaning. You say that the devil is the accuser or adversary, but I am amazed that nobody here has explained what exactly this means. It's like me saying the devil is the opposer, he is not a being, he just opposes. 1 year later, ........The devil is an opposer... :msealed: ~It seems the blind are leading the blind.
Taff
Seems some like ADAM wandered from HIM who IS TRUTH therefore became liars , murderers and theives HELD in THE bondage of the OWN error of DISCERNMET bro---to lose ones faith means to SHIP wreck? wow SHIP... a ship a ship... O h leviathan who PLAYS in the SHIPS :icon_joker:
-Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
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TT
I don't understand the connection here, what has the resurection got do with it, or saying it is past?
I have never said the resurection is already past, I am one of the few here it seems who believe that the resurection is yet to come.
if the resurrection IS past -- then theres No resurrection for those to COME= HIM daily resurrecting himself within MAN- ie have erred from the TRUTH---- BIRTHING himself within- :icon_flower:
quite figurative I Appreciate- :icon_flower:
Cards post upon another thread Cand Pd to this one---
Try this on for size.........Leviathan is in the sea (sea of humanity).......leviathan is as the tongue, that NO MAN can tame, but GOD can put a hook (Christ) in it, and lead it where He would, giving it HIS breath to speak. This is why the serpents slayed them in the wilderness (they reaped what they sowed, we are reproved with our OWN wickedness), yet they had to make a BRAZEN (speaks of judgment to the flesh, the brazen altar for killing flesh, also the cross) serpent, ie. a serpent/tongue that went to the cross, to look up upon and be healed/made whole.
Serpents live in the dust realm, but looking up at one raised from the dead (dust realm), since we become what we behold (changed as we perceive from glory to glory), makes us whole and changes our position which changes our confession, which changes what we reap. This is why He said He ONLY spoke that which He heard His Father speak, because He was overcoming leviathan in what He (as the pre-existant Christ) had been lowered into.
Which is why Paul said, our CONVERSATION is from HEAVEN (as we behold the serpent on a pole). You can't speak out of a place you've never been before. Being seated in heavenly places does NOT mean we're sitting down; a seat is a foundation, the SEA below us becomes as glass (hardened as rock), the letter Word accomplished in us becomes the foundation Rock we stand on, our "footstool", just as it was His footstool, ie. "the earth is My footstool, and heaven is my throne".
This is how Christ could come walking to Peter on the water; the water is as the waters below the firmament (heaven), and become as rock to stand on when the Spirit-breathed Word is obeyed, fulling the letter. My ......got to run Blessings....
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SO YES WW the PITCHER is a SOMEONE.. :icon_flower:
Virgin=constellation Virgo=star sign=His mother=pinpointing the time of His birth. ==> both a person and a time
same for Pitcher=Aquarius= etc ????
Are you saying the constellations are going to be predicting something? like the time of his return?
Each tribe has a symbol/emblem. Unfortunately there isn't agreement.
Pitcher = Levi or Simeon.
The 12 tribes are represented by 12 zodiac signs. The 4 main tribes are the 4 beasts near God's throne.
My
guess is that each tribe has a certain task/quality. The naming of the tribe signals a new type of age. Or something else. I'm sorta convinced the verse is
not about how perfectly Jesus predicted that the man would be there. Just like a parable it's a rather useless factoid with a much grander meaning below the surface...
ACVMark 1413 And he sends forth two of his disciples, and says to them, Go into the city, and a man carrying a pitcher of water will meet you. Follow him.
14 And wherever he may enter, say ye to the house-ruler, The teacher says, Where is the guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?
15 And he himself will show you a large upper room spread out ready. Prepare ye for us there.
There are some keywords that trigger my attention.
Water is faith?
Ruler is God the owner of the mansion?
Guest room is where the wedding guests stay?
Upper is ????
Hi WW
John the baptist come baptizing in water as a symbol of repentance :bigGrin: at the wedding in Cana water was turned to wine..the freind of the bride-groom rejoiced
I go to prepare a place for you........I shall no more drink of it..until I drink it anew with you inthe kingdom of heaven
Hi Sheila,
I know all that. But what exactly does that pitcher mean?
As you can read in my previous post I see some matching words.
But I may mean nothing :dontknow:
sorry
repent means to rethink..or turn our minds around....or clear up som deception. John said to the pharisees andsadducees thatcome out to
be baptized...ye offspring of vipers[leviathan in the water] WHO SHOWED YOU?.....he instructed them to bear fruit of repentance....instead
the King of the Proud had them in his belly
Proverbs 25;11 a word aptly spoken is like apples of gold inpitchers of siver
Quotewe become what we behold
Really makes you see how ET is a doctrine of demons...
OK WW
your answer is in Elijah 1Kings 18;24....it is through the spirit of elijah[El-I-Jah] 12 stones,12 large waterpots....Jesus..one of the 12 in heaven came to the
earth and poured forth living water from heaven..and God answered by fire[spirit] In the Kingdom of heaven the 12 archangels serve Father at His direction
working HEAVENLY PREISTLY FUNCTIONS to those who inherit. Rev shows the ark of the testimony opened in heaven. The 12 large waterpots
are resovoirs of living water stored in the ark-angels...He invites ALL to TRY HIM OUT IN THIS MANNER AND TO SEE IF HE DOES NOT OPEN
THE FLOODGATES OF HEAVEN...this is the HEAVENLY KINGDOM CHRIST RETURNS WITH..THIS IS THE KINGDOM HE INSTRUCTED US TO PRAY FOR
Covenant calf/bull=Phanuel,RED is his colour[note rainbow arch..coat of many colours=glory] Michael,white/eagle,Gabriel/man/black/bronze,Raphael,lion/yellow
4 major over 4 colours of mankind,red yellow black and white..Pravuil=man with inkhorn/holy spirit
Jesus was a large waterpot of living waters poured out and answered by fire[holy spirit and fire]. Elijah showed what Father would do to clear up
who is the true God.
They come to deliver us from the kingdom of Darkness...they wage spiritual warfar against the Kingdom of darkness
At thecoming of the Kingdom there is a High Preist Annointed for War...that is how our Lord returns and you see Him riding white horses[Michael the
commander of the Lord's army] He returns with all in heavenly kingdom todeliver us...IN POWER AND GLORY
You know there is a debate going on as whether torturing, terror suspects is the right thing to do in order to potentially save lives.
Many people think that in order to defeat the enemy you cannot become the enemy.
But even with this idea of torturing people for information, which many people christians included are repulsed by it.
But God is supposed to be torturing people for eternity... there is nothing gained from it.
In fact if you read the book of revelation you will see that Gods wrath is poured out upon the inhabitants of the Earth
So Gods wrath is satisfied during the vial judgments, poured upon the wicked, vengeance for all the ungodly deeds done against Him and His people.
The lake of fire on the other hand destroys all things that are built on sand, e.g carnality, yet the man himself is saved.
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THE TWELVE SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC DEPICTING GOD'S PLAN AND PROCESS OF REDEMPTION
1. VIRGO, the Virgin: A young woman bearing a branch in her right hand and an ear of corn in her left. The "seed" of the woman is to bring the Saviour. Christ (spirit) birthed out of the virgin soul. The sons of God brought forth from the sun-clad woman, the virgin bride of Christ. As Mary brought forth her first-born Son while still a virgin, so the virgin bride brings forth the manchild company before her ultimate consummation of marriage.
2. LIBRA, the Scales: the figure of a pair of balances, with one side up and the other down, as in the act of weighing. All creation is deficient, lowered, subjected to vanity, lacking a little from Elohim. The ministry of reconciliation restores all things into balance (harmony, oneness) in Christ.
3. SCORPIO, the Scorpion: the figure of a gigantic, poisonous, and deadly insect, with its tail and sting uplifted in anger, as if striking. The sting of sin and death via the carnal mind that infects every man.
4. SAGITTARIUS, the Archer: the figure of a horse with the head of a man with a drawn bow and arrow pointed at the Scorpion. Christ coming into the life as Warrior, conquering and to conquer. The commencement of the process of overcoming.
5. CAPRICORNUS, the Goat: the figure of a goat sinking down in death, with the hinder part of its body terminating in the vigorous tail of a fish. Redemption through death and resurrection. Life out of death. The fellowship of His suffering leading to the power of His resurrection.
6. AQUARIUS, the Water-bearer: the figure of a man with a large urn, the contents of which he is in the act of pouring out in a great stream from the sky. The Sent One who would pour out waters of blessing, the life of the Spirit on the earth in the former and latter rain. Rivers of Living Water from the innermost part of our being. The outflow of His life.
7. PISCES, the Fishes: the figures of two large fish in the act of swimming. Christ, Head and body, the two fish that would be multiplied, a symbol of God' s grace going out to all the world.
8. ARIES, the Ram or Lamb: the figure of a strong sheep, with powerful curved horns, lying down in easy composure, and looking out in conscious strength over the field around it. The Lamb in the midst of the throne; the nature of the Lamb perfected in the enChristed, overcoming all things.
9. TAURUS, the Bull: the figure of a powerful bull, in the attitude of rushing and pushing forward with great energy. Christ coming in judgment, as a refiner's fire. The righteous judgments of Cod committed to the saints of the Most High.
10. GEMINI, the Twins: two human figures closely united. The Son and the sons. The King of kings and Lord of lords. The lords of the Lord and the kings of the King. Christ reigning in and through His body.
11. CANCER, the Crab: the figure of a crab, in the act of taking and holding on with its strong pincer claws. The power of the Kingdom of God. The glory of being "in Christ." The little flock secure in Him attaining the goal of His fullness.
12. LEO, the Lion: the figure of a great rampant lion, leaping forth to rend, with his feet over the writhing body of Hydra, the Serpent, which is in the act of fleeing. The Lion of the tribe of Judah prevails. The Serpent defeated. Christ in us is Victor. The Serpent flees. The battle ends. Victory is secure!
The ancient Sphinx in Egypt actually holds the key to the riddle and unlocks the mystery of the Zodiac. All have heard of the Sphinx. Most people know that it was a figure with the head of a woman and the body of a lion. But what this creature actually stood for, or was intended to represent, has been lost from history and has always been an open question. It is what is spoken of as the unknown and insoluble mystery — "the riddle of the Sphinx."
Neither the ancient religion of Egypt, nor mythology, nor yet astrology has the answer to the riddle of the Sphinx. When Napoleon was in Egypt he was told that if he could solve the riddle of the Sphinx he would know the way to eternal life. After the nations had lost the original meaning of the signs of the Zodiac, they invented a mythological meaning out of the carnal imagination of the thoughts of their own hearts. How clear that just as the truth of the Zodiac antedated the mythological interpretations of those signs, just so the truth contained in the great Sphinx lies far back beyond even the knowledge of ancient Egypt! And it is intricately connected with the truth of the Zodiac.
Confirmation of this is found in one of the very old Zodiacs dating back to 2000 B.C. or before. It is called the Zodiac of Dendereh and was found on the ceiling of an ancient portico in Egypt. In this Zodiac there is placed between the signs of Virgo and Leo a picture of the Sphinx. Its woman-like face gazes upon the sign of Virgo, and its lion-like body and tail point to Leo, telling us that we begin with the Virgin and end with the Lion.
Furthermore, by the very formation of the Sphinx with its woman' s head and lion's body — IT BINDS TOGETHER IN ITSELF THE BEGINNING AND THE END OF THE GREAT CIRCLE OF SIGNS. The head of the Sphinx, the woman, is Virgo the virgin, whereas the body and tail of the Sphinx, the lion, is Leo the lion. The circle is thus seen to begin at the woman (Virgo) and to end with the lion (Leo).
The word "sphinx" is taken from the Greek word SPHUNGO which means "to bind closely together." It is, therefore, designed to show where the two ends of the Zodiac were to be joined together and where the great circle of the heavens begins and ends.
I agree with the notion that Adam's son Seth constructed the Sphinx.
Secrets of Enoch ch 21;7 And I saw the eighth heaven,which is called in the Hebrew tongue,MUZZALOTH,changer of the seasons,of drought and of wet,
and of the twelve signsof the Zodiac,which are above the seventh heaven. And I saw the ninth Heaven,which is called in Hebrew KUCHAVIM
WHERE ARE THE HEAVENLY HOMES OF THE TWELVE SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC
Genesis 37;9 Then he had anotherndream and he told it to his brothers,'I had another dream and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars bowed down to me
Rev 22;8 I,John,am the one who heard and saw these things.And when I had heard and seen them,I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel
that had been showing them to me,but he siad to me'DO NOT DO IT! I am a fellowservant with you,and with your brothers the prophets,and of all who
keep the words of this book. WORSHIP GOD!
Amen.
Num 20:16 and when we cried unto the LORD, he heard our voice, and sent an angel, and brought us forth out of Egypt: and, behold, we are in Kadesh, a city in the uttermost of thy border:
Num 20:17 let us pass, I pray thee, through thy land: we will not pass through field or through vineyard, neither will we drink of the water of the wells: we will go along the king's [high] way, we will not turn aside to the right hand nor to the left, until we have passed thy border.
Wow that zodiac and sphinx stuff is amazing! I had no idea the zodiac actually meant something! Very cool!
I LOVE this zodiac stuff. I intended to preach on it years ago but was quickly restrained by my authorities . . .if they would only understand the freedom of following Chirst!!!!
Preach on beloved servant!!!
My posts are from a very fascinating and in-depth 47-part study of the 12 signs by Brother Eby titled, "The Heavens Declare."
www.kingdombiblestudies.org/tablecontents.htm#THDEC
I think that's where I was getting my stuff from as well . . .I forwarded what I could to my supervisor at his request. He promised he'd read through it and get back to me as to whether or not I could move forward. The only word I got back was, "please don't send us anymore information, we're already buried by what you've sent so far . . ." And that was the last of it that I ever heard again.
The thing is, and this is important, is that we the brethren are not ruled by the stars of the night as carnal men are; For we are a new creation ruled by the Daystar!
yes, the Daystar rises in our heart[heart of the earth]!! For He creates two additional Heavens. See Enoch and ten heavens..note New Jerusalem
has 12 'foundations' Heavens...the capstone.
law of fifths Gen 41;34 Let Pharoah appoint commisioners over the land to take a fifth of the Harvest of Egypt during the seven years of abundance
Lev 5;16.....when a person committs a violation and sins unintentionally in regard to any of the Lord's Holy things........he must make restitution
for what he has failed to do in regard to the Holy things,ADD A FIFTH OF THE VALUE TO THAT AND GIVE IT ALL TO THE PREIST
SOS 8;12..but my own vineyard is mine to give, the thousand shekels are four you,O'Solomon.....and two hundred are for those who 6tend it's fruit
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The thing is, and this is important, is that we the brethren are not ruled by the stars of the night as carnal men are; For we are a new creation ruled by the Daystar!
Yes, that's why it's now such a tabboo subject in the church. It's been so twisted and contorted that instead of seeing Christ in it, all that's left now is a shell of darkness. Let freedom ring! May Christ illuminate truth to the captives that they may be set free from the chains of limited understanding which will enable them to truly fly in the kingdom of Light and Life.
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I agree with the notion that Adam's son Seth constructed the Sphinx.
You mean that giant lion cat structure in Egypt?
Or do you mean he designed the original blueprint, whether small or great?
The former.
Isaaih 19;19
In that day the Egyptians will be like women.They will shudder in fear at the uplifted hand that the Lord Almighty raises against them......
v,In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the heart of Egypt....AND......
A MONUMENT TO THE LORD AT IT'S BORDER. IT WILL BE A SIGN AND WITTNESS TO THE LORD ALMIGHTY IN THE LAND OF EGYPT
v23 Inthat Day there will be a HIGHWAY..............
It is said that the Great Pyramid is covering that alter as Seth desired a "roof" for it.
Isaaih 19;23,24
In that day,Israel will be the third along with Egypt and Assyria,A BLESSING ON THE EARTH. THE LORD ALMIGHTY WILL BLESS THEM,saying
Blessed be Egypt my people,Assyria my handiwork,and Israel my inheritance.
[this the reaSON FOR THREE PYRAMIDS? YOU THINK?]
I am not sure about this whole zodiac pyramid issue. These things are associated with mystery babylon and pagan religions.
where in scripture are pyramids considered holy?
Ark of the covenant a holy mantle of God.
But the pyramids?
Egypt is historically the place where Pharoa enslaved and mistreated a people. God called them out of bondage and dressed them in fine apparel, gave them land and great riches and made them the greatest nation in the world, but their sins made them a harlot, causing the rest of the nations to despise her, blaspheming her God because of the sins of the people were great.
My conviction is that pyramids are associated with false religions and mysterious dark arts. The first place in the bible where the sorcerers challenge the God of Moses.
Exodus 7:14
And the LORD said unto Moses, Pharaoh's heart is hardened, he refuseth to let the people go
Quote from: sheila on July 15, 2011, 08:02:24 PM
Isaaih 19;19
In that day the Egyptians will be like women.They will shudder in fear at the uplifted hand that the Lord Almighty raises against them......
v,In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the heart of Egypt....AND......
A MONUMENT TO THE LORD AT IT'S BORDER. IT WILL BE A SIGN AND WITTNESS TO THE LORD ALMIGHTY IN THE LAND OF EGYPT
v23 Inthat Day there will be a HIGHWAY..............
Wow Sheila . . . that is definitely an eye-opener! How cool would it be, after all this time, to learn that the sphynx was actually God's sign from the very beginning!!!
aLSO YOU NEED TO REALIZE...THAT GOD SENT jOSEPH AHEAD TO eGYPT TO LAY UP food for israel to keep them alive DURING THE SEVEN YEAR FAMINE
AND jOSEPH WAS 2ND IN COMMAND TO pHAROAH..AND BESIDES THAT. MARRIED pHAROAHS PREISTESS DAUGHTER/CONVERTED HER
..pHAROAH'S DAUGHTER RAISED mOSES AS HER SON!.....AND ON TOP OF ALL THIS...
AN ALTER TO THE lORD IN THE HEART OF eGYPT DENOTES[NEW HEART/NEW SPIRIT=FLEEING SERPENT]
YES eGYPT HAS SYMBOLIZED THOSE WHO HOLD US IN SLAVERY TO SIN...BUT AN ALTER IN THE HEART OF eGYPT UNTO THE lORD IS SYNOMONOUS
WITH A FLEEING SERPENT. THE SERPENT SHUDDERS IN FEAR AT hIS UPLIFTED HAND[THEY SHALL HANDLE SERPENTS] AND
ISN'T A SERPENT HANGING ON A BRAZEN 'POLE' THE VERY ALTAR THAT WAS LIFTED UP IN THE WILDERNESS FOR THOSE WHO WERE
SNAKE-BIT TO BE HEALED?
Not to mention that we now can walk on serpents and not be harmed.
Recently crush one, Nathan?
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the parable of the talents shows that everyone has at least one talent. can you accuse the builder of the Spynx and pyaramids of
hiding theirs in the earth! HA! The heavens make a spectacle of it. You know the Egyptians give 'gifts' to those who were leaving Egypt...and also
the one who 'hid' his talent had to hand it over...........the serpent flees at His UP LIFTED HAND
TT :Ark of the covenant a holy mantle of God.
Yes but it led to idolatry in the temple. And the creating of it violates the No Graven Images of anything in the heavens or the earth, portion of the ten commandments. They even had names for the cherubim.
Moloch, Chiun, Sikkuth (for the tent presumably). see Amos 5? or Stephens last words.
God created sex, sex is good within proper parameters. Man corrupts as we are slaves to the bondage of corruption. We are left with idolatry (lust, porn, sodomy etc).
God created pyramids, pyramids are proper in Gods parameters. Man corrupts as we are slaves to bondage of corruption. We are left with idolatry (pyramids, magic).
They traded the glory of the incorruptible God, for the creation, and He gave them over to degrading passions
Hello redhotmagma. Good thoughts and I kind of thought that to be a defence for e.g pyramids as a site to worship God - because e.g a triangle is Gods creation and is no different to a square. But no one knows who built the pyramids in Egypt and most historians either say they were built for the gods, or that they were built for the glory of Pharoa, or they were built by the gods themselves as some kind of portal or place of sacrifice. Perhaps these pyramids are associated with that scripture that talks about God saying I commanded them not to sacrifice the children in the fire, neither it came to my mind.
But then I was reminded of the tower of babel. Now God did not take over the tower and redecorate it so that it glorifies God, but commanded to smash it down. (maybe not commanded as such, not sure, but there is no command to restore the tower)
But I recall that God commanded a king to destroy the temple of God, because of idolatry.
So if the pyramids were built for Pharoa, then the rough equivalent could be to call the round table of Hitler as holy.
However in defence of the pyramids, that there is a possibility that they are form God, and that is, they have somehow survived throughout history and Egypt has been under judgment by God, so why didn't he command to destroy the pyramids?
But given the size of these structures and the number of them, even a large army with sticks, stones and bronze swords would have a challenge destroying these structures. Even today the structures are being constantly eroded by thieves and wear and tear, but they still stand.
It is an interesting question.
Hi TT
when the Holy spirit of grace was extended unto the gentiles,the jews had a hard time,too. for what had formerly been declared unclean...
Holy spirit said, "Quit calling unclean what God has cleansed"
Now, when the time came for God to deliver the Israelites from slavery in Egypt...God had Moses to works signs.....
there was a sign that Moses was told to work..that then the Egyptians would beleive......the sign was to extend his arm from the fold
of His garment...and it would come forth 'leprous'...then to return it to the fold of his garment and bring it forth again...and it would
not be leprous. It IS THE SIGN OF FATHER BEING ABLE TO RESTORE MANKIND FROM AN UNCLEAN STATE
the sin of presumptousness is the same as witchcraft. These things are declared to us in His timing. We can not know what is good and evil
except HE tell us...
John 10;34 Jesus answered them,'Is it not written in your law,''I have said you are gods'? If He called them gods,to whom the word of God came-and the scriptures can
not be broken- what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy,because
I said I am God's son'?
I MAKE ALL THINGS NEW[not old corrupt or leprous]
that which was corrupt[due to lies/lack of understanding]pyramids[made them make their own bricks without straw[vision]
PYRAMID?SPHNX......becomes GOD'S WITTNESS WRITTEN IN THE STARS OF HIS REDEMPTION OF MAN,
BEGINNING AND END......when He returns it to HIS GARMENT AND BRINGS FORTH TRUTH
whichof you,if your son asked for a fish,would hand him a serpent?
so...we are the offspring of God[gods]...and the gate/door.[word of God]...Lion of Judah BORN OF A VIRGIN IS OUR WAY BACK HOME TO HEAVEN
ultimately Father makes all things work to the good of those who love Him
though the righteous man stumble,God will raise him up
Isaaih CH 11 the BRANCH FROM JESSE
........v 11 in that day,the Lord will reach out his hand a secound time.......