Noah Daniel and Job?

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Dandelion

What I see is that God is talking of the faith of Noah, Daniel and Job.

Their faith, though they tried to share it, was attributed to them. Their faith could not save others, as each person is accountable to God for their own faith.

We can try to warn others, pray for them, but, ultimately, we must each develop our own relationship with the Lord. There is no substitute for that.

Each of us must connect to God......we cannot depend on our affiliations to cover what we have not done, ourselves.

:2c:
7"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8"For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened....

Matthew 7:7 -8

rosered

Quote from: Dandelion on August 23, 2015, 06:22:46 AM
What I see is that God is talking of the faith of Noah, Daniel and Job.

Their faith, though they tried to share it, was attributed to them. Their faith could not save others, as each person is accountable to God for their own faith.

We can try to warn others, pray for them, but, ultimately, we must each develop our own relationship with the Lord. There is no substitute for that.

Each of us must connect to God......we cannot depend on our affiliations to cover what we have not done, ourselves.

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  Yes considering their name meanings as well as there   example of how and what the lived though    ...   all types of a  hell/  gehenna judgment  on earth     testing that faith  and considered righteous by GOD    not  of themselves  nor any of their peers  .....

JOB    hebrew name meaning   Etymology and meaning of the name Job
The origin of the name Job is unclear (unknown says BDB Theological Dictionary). Some (NOBSE Study Bible Name List reads Returning) derive it from an Arabic noun meaning 'he who turns (to God)'. Others (HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament) see similarities with the verb איב (ayap), meaning to be an enemy:

Abarim Publications Theological Dictionary
איב
The verb איב ('ayab) means to be hostile to or to be an enemy. This verb occurs in all expectable ways, from men being hostile to men (Numbers 35:23), to men treating men as enemies (Exodus 23:22), to a general or national enemy (Exodus 15:6), to enemies of God (Numbers 10:35). Most notable are the instances where God becomes the enemy of rebellious men (Isaiah 63:10).
This verb comes with one derivative: the feminine noun איבה ('eba), meaning enmity (Genesis 3:15, Numbers 35:21).
Associated Biblical names
♂Jobאיוב
Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names derives the name Job from this verb and is convinced that the name Job is a passive form and thus means The Persecuted. Renowned theologian Gesenius agrees with Jones and reads "object of enmity"

Then there are occurrences of this same name in related languages, and mean there No Father or Where Is My Father?

A Hebrew audience would probably hear Enemy for the name Job, and perhaps indeed a passive form of the verb, so that the name-bearer becomes the object of hostilities, specifically those imposed on Job by God. Others understand perhaps that God is never an enemy to a righteous man and righteous Job, as much as he loved God, was His enemy by nature, and that got the ball rolling.

Noah   hebrew name meaning is super interesting Etymology of the name Noah I
What the original designer of the masculine name Noah (נח) meant to say isn't immediately clear, but Noah's father Lamech appears to name his son Noah because 'this one will comfort us,' using the verb נחם (naham; see the names Nahum and Capernaum), which is the same verb that Isaiah used when saying, "Comfort, O comfort My people..." (Isaiah 40:1).

Most commentators take the name Noah from the verb נוח (nuah) meaning to rest or settle down, but it may very well have been drawn from the verb נחה (naha), meaning to lead or guide:

Abarim Publications Theological Dictionary
נוח  נחת  נחה
The verbs נוח (nuah) and נחת (nahet) and נחה (naha) seem adjacent or even slightly overlapping in meaning, and their forms overlap as well:
נוח
The root-verb נוח (nuah) denotes a coming to rest usually after a period of unrest or mobility. It is used to indicate the end of a journey (Genesis 8:4), or the camping of an army (Isaiah 7:2) and even the resting of a spirit upon someone (Numbers 11:25, 2 Kings 2:15), or wisdom (Proverbs 14:33), or anger (Ecclesiastes 7:9). And it may denote the resting after labor (Exodus 20:11), the rest of peace after a period of war (Esther 9:16), or general peace of mind (Proverbs 29:17). It may also mean to leave behind (Genesis 42:33), to depart from (Ecclesiastes 10:4), and to abandon (Jeremiah 14:9).
Derivatives of this verb are:
The feminine noun נחת (nahat), meaning quietness or a quiet attitude (Isaiah 30:15, Job 36:16). Note that this noun is identical to a derivation of the verb נחת (nahet), see below.
The masculine noun ניחח (nihoah) or ניחוח (nihoah), meaning a quieting or soothing, usually of scents from sacrifices, and usually soothing to God (Genesis 8:21, Exodus 29:18).
The feminine noun הנחה (hanaha), meaning a giving of rest (Esther 2:18 only).
The masculine noun מנוח (manoah), meaning either place or condition of rest (Genesis 8:9, Psalm 116:7).
The noun מנוחה (menuha) or מנחה (menuha), meaning resting place (Micah 2:10, Psalm 95:11), or quietness (Psalm 23:2, Jeremiah 45:3).
נחת
The root-verb נחת (nahet) means to descend or go down. It may denote a military advance (Jeremiah 21:13), or a descent into Sheol (Job 21:13). A rebuke descends into someone who has understanding (Proverbs 17:10) the way an arrow goes into some victim's flesh (Psalm 38:2). Two words derive from this verb, and each occurs only once:
The masculine noun נחת (nahat), meaning descent (Isaiah 30:30 only). Note that this noun is identical to the feminine one derived from the verb נוח (nuah).
The adjective נחת (nahet), meaning descending (2 Kings 6:9 only).
נחה
The verb נחה (naha) means to lead or guide. Eliezer uses this verb to explain how YHWH brought him to Rebekah (Genesis 24:27, 24:48). God led Israel (Exodus 13:17, 15:13, Deuteronomy 32:12) and Moses did too (Exodus 32:34), or rather Moses and Aaron were used by God as instruments (Psalm 77:20, Nehemiah 9:19) and so was the Shekinah (Nehemiah 9:12). The Lord leads who calls on Him (Isaiah 58:11, 27:11, 139:24), who enters His house (Psalm 5:8), even constellations in the heavens (Job 38:32). Like a shepherd He leads beside quiet waters (Psalm 23:2).
Parental instructions lead someone on his walk (Proverbs 6:22), Balak led Balaam from Aram (Numbers 23:7), a man's gift brings him before great men (Proverbs 18:16), Solomon led his horses to special cities (1 Kings 10:26), Job guided the widow (Job 31:18).
This verb has no derivations.
Associated Biblical names
⌂Janoahינוח
ינוחה
♂⌂☺Manahathמנחת
♂Manoahמנוח
♂♀②Noahנח
נעה
♂Nohahנוחה
Noah I meaning
For a meaning of the name Noah, both NOBSE Study Bible Name List and Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names read Rest. BDB Theological Dictionary does not offer an interpretation of our name but does list it under the verb נוח (nuah) meaning to rest.

Significantly, the competing lineage of Cain, ends up in the land of Nod, which means Restless Wandering.

Noah II
As stated above, the feminine Noah is one of the five daughters of Zelophehad.

Etymology of the name Noah II
The feminine name Noah (נעה), according to BDB Theological Dictionary, comes from the verb נוע (nua'), meaning to shake or stagger:

Abarim Publications Theological Dictionary
נוע
The root-verb נוע (nua') means to shake, stagger, quiver, tremble, etcetera. It's used for trees that sway in the breeze (Judges 9:9), of lips that stammer (1 Samuel 1:13), of drunks who stagger (psalm 107:27). It's used to have beggars totter, or to toss corn about in a sieve (Amos 9:9).
Probably the most endearing usage of this verb is in the description of the movement of Hannah's lips when she prayed (1 Samuel 1:13). Rather grim is its role in Cain's curse: You shall be a vagabond — נע (n') — and a fugitive (Genesis 4:12). God exiles Cain to the land of Nod. The name Nod is derived from a verb that is often used as a parallel to the verb nua'.
The sole derivation of this root is the masculine noun מנענע (mena'anea'), which appears to be some kind of rattle. It occurs in 2 Samuel 6:5 only.
Associated Biblical names
⌂Kadesh-barneaקדש ברנע
⌂Neahנעה
♂♀②Noahנח
נעה
Noah II meaning
The feminine name Noah (נעה) means Shaky Girl or Lady Wanderer.

and Daniel hebrew name meaning Daniel meaning
The whole name Daniel would mean something like God Is My Judge (NOBSE Study Bible Name List & BDB Theological Dictionary) or, more interpretively, God Rules Me. Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names reads Judge Of God.

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Daniel.html#.VdoIhflViko   


I find the  information just amazing to look into , like the  names   and meanings  of the Hebrew     , very significant and   as the ''hidden manna ''    that Rev  mentions as  a ''reward ''   for   faithfulness to Gods Word    , we know Jesus Christ is the    WORD  and many other  meanings  , He is really our all   


:HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

sheila

  when I consider the flood of Noah's day....in the revelation of the salvation of all men...this comes to mind...'whether you pass through

the water's or the fire,I AM with you."  He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked[corrupted image that all men have bore]

   I kill..and make alive.   Even if the righteous one should strike me..it would even be a blessing

Beloved Servant

The meaning of the name Noah: Rest, Peace
The meaning of the name Daniel: God Is My Judge
The meaning of Job: Persecuted

It's interesting though that the book of Daniel comes after Ezekiel, so what could he know?

That the persecuted will find rest and peace in the judgment of God.

Acts 7:33

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Love this too, Beloved..... :friendstu:

Some other things have come to mind since I first read this thread, apart from their "work" being as a High Priest, which I commented on earlier. One of which is, a 3 way cord is hard to break. I can also see the prophet, priest and king in that Noah would be as a type of king, having been made the head of the earth and it's people that remained, Daniel was obviously a prophet, and Job prayed for his friends as a priest would do.

Noah could be seen as all three, since he prophetically told of what was coming, and prayed for the people, so I see this as the "sign" of the ministry being perfected in the ones He is raising up to appear in, that like unto Melchisedek. My thoughts.....Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

strainerofcamels

Blessed to read this. Nice to see a group of brethren sharing in love allowing the spirit to come thru unto edification instead of who's right etc. Very edifying thanks to all who shared I was verily blessed unto many goose bumps. Lol