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marie glen

{I don't necessarily doubt the manchild teaching, but think the interpretation is in the wrong scriptures.. I would likely think of it as the latter rain of the Spirit - the pouring out of the Holy Spirit? Only in the last days of Israel / not a nation again for almost 2000 years, or also for the end of this age.. A Pouring Out of His Spirit? They did do great things the 1st time :gsmile: thanks for listening}

A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman... being in labor to give birth..

[cross-ref - The Lord God then asked the woman, "What have you done?" And the woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate." And Jehovah God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed [art] thou above all cattle and every beast of the field: upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her-seed, He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel." [Genesis 3:13-15]

[cross-ref - Therefore the Lord Himself gives you a sign, behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel, which means, "God with us". [Isaiah 7:14]

...And there was seen another sign in the heaven, lo, a great red dragon.. stood before the woman to devour her Child as soon as it was born..

[cross-ref - When Herod saw that he had been tricked by the magi, he became enraged, and sent and slew all the male children who were in Bethlehem and all its vicinity, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the magi. [Matthew 2:16]

And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to shepherd all the nations with a rod of iron ..the son was caught up to God and His throne ..

[cross-ref  - And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus. [Matthew 1:21]

[cross-ref  - I will surely tell of the decree of the Lord: He said to Me, "You are My Son, today I have begotten You, ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession. Thou dost rule them with a sceptre of iron, As a vessel of a potter You shall shatter them like dishes of clay." [Psalm 2:7-9]

[cross-ref - The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind, "You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek," the Lord is at your right hand; he will shatter kings on the day of his wrath. [Psalm 110:4,5]

[cross-ref - The Lord says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet." [Psalm 110:1]

[cross-ref - So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. [Mark 16:19]

[cross-ref - In many parts, and many ways, God of old having spoken to the fathers in the prophets, in these last days did speak to us in a Son, heir of all things, through whom also He did make the ages.. ..when He had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. [Hebrews 1:1,3]

[cross-ref - Jesus said to him, "..hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven." [Matthew 26:64]

[cross-ref - Then Stephen said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!" [Acts 7:56]

[cross-ref - ..where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. [Colossians 3:1]

And the woman did flee to the wilderness. And there came war in the heaven; Michael and his messengers did war against the dragon, and the dragon did war, and his messengers, and they did not prevail, nor was their place found any more in the heaven; and the great dragon was cast forth -- the old serpent, who is called "Devil," and "the Adversary," who is leading astray the whole world -- he was cast forth to the earth, and his messengers were cast forth with him.. And he pursued and persecuted (inquisitioned) the woman who had given birth to a son..

[cross-ref - For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us.. [Isaiah 9:6]

[cross-ref? - ...tortured.. and others ...mockings and scourgings did receive trial.. and imprisonment.. sawn asunder, they were tried..  [Hebrews 11:35-37 w/ Rev 13:2]

...but she was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to her place where she is nourished a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. Then from his mouth the serpent poured water like a river after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood, and the land did help the woman, and the land did open its mouth and did swallow up the river, that the dragon did cast forth out of his mouth.

[cross-ref - And as they led Him away, having taken hold on Simon, a certain Cyrenian, coming from the field, they put on him the cross, to bear it behind Jesus.. Jesus turned to the women and said: "Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, for, lo, days do come, in which they shall say, Happy the barren and.. to the mountains, fall on us, and to the hills, cover us; for if they do these things when the tree is green, what will be done in the dry?" (Joel's smoky day?)  [Luke 23:26-31]

So the dragon was enraged and went away to make war with the rest of her seed, those keeping the commands of God, and having the testimony of Jesus (by now?)

[cross-ref - (Jesus' Lament over Jerusalem) - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord'! [Matthew 23:37,39]

[cross-ref - ..the spirits of demons, doing signs -- which go forth to every king on earth, to bring them together for a war against God All-Powerful, to the battle of that great day of God the Almighty.. And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon. [Revelation 16:14,16]
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rosered

  I have read your scriptures and all your cross refernces Sister Marie
and Love them  all

QuoteA great sign appeared in heaven: a woman... being in labor to give birth..

[cross-ref - The Lord God then asked the woman, "What have you done?" And the woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate." And Jehovah God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed [art] thou above all cattle and every beast of the field: upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her-seed, He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel." [Genesis 3:13-15]

[cross-ref - Therefore the Lord Himself gives you a sign, behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel, which means, "God with us". [Isaiah 7:14]

...And there was seen another sign in the heaven, lo, a great red dragon.. stood before the woman to devour her Child as soon as it was born..


  I believe there is some confusion to what the  red dragon  is  perhaps ?
and  this is where many folks differ on their  view 
I would tell  you what Iam now  percieiving , but it only makes matters worse not better   for some whos view differ 
 
  look up demons[devils ]  and tell me what you see Sis 


  as I see Jesus Christ   as One    and the  Lord Jesus  gatherd corporately as
one going still   [Pauls scriptures ] Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; [even] in him
  all of Eph 1

and when I see the beast    sections though time[this image ]    and yet [was is and will be ]  as  corporately
  the seeds are planted in the hearts of  mankind  , both of the WORD OF GOD and the seed of the beast  ,  that being said  , Davids words come to mind here


Psa 73:22 So foolish [was] I, and ignorant: I was [as] a beast before thee [beast  has the curse of darkness , meaning ignorance and foolish  to the ways to the Lords will

   as to the beast in nature  also in here    sons of men , NOT sons of God 

Ecc 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all [is] vanity.

Also consider the book of Job the beast of the earth in  chapter 40 Behemoth  and the sea beast being Job 41 Levithan  , both are described  corporrately [joined together as One ] I believe they are One and the same  of Revelation
  You know I dont want to stumble anyone   where they are at in the Lord  , and that is why I shy away from forums for this very reason

  My hope is the Lords Spirit that is Holy just and true  lead us all into   His Truth

Jesus is the reward  !!

Lazarus Short

In reference to the thread title, I look forward to the end of this age, for it means "Arm-a-gettin" outta here...!  :laughing7:
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

marie glen

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thank-you Rosered, :gsmile:

yes, forums can be difficult, i think i always (well almost always:) 'talk' very softly and friendly but sometimes i'm not so sure that's how it's reaching people's ears, rofL..

..before I mention what I found about devils.. I understand what others are saying, here, what I can't understand is, except for perhaps, possibly, one or two exceptions, why no one can understand what I'm saying. I'm not even saying that anyone's wrong about Bible prophecy.. I'm just trying to present another dimension.

Also, I come across a few people who instinctively understand a truth. And sometimes I can help them locate the confirmation of it in God's Word. Don't get me wrong.. I did think - and have stayed away - that there was the belief that God's Word was only allegory and metaphor. That it has only a spiritual meaning or lesson, and not a world stage message. This, is very important to me. That it be upheld in its fullness. Because God has touched my heart and my life and my days.. and I know, I'm not delusional.

God is doing such a wonderful thing! I know everyone knows that.. but I mean even more so..
It seems (and of course I may be wrong, lol :) that the belief is in, say, an inner vine and fruit tree, everyone, or each one, will abide under.. and no one will bother them.. (Micah 4:3,4) But not a real fruit tree and vine in a literal paradise?

I have no doubt, and I understand that we all battle the beast.. but also, who was Paul referring to when he talked about the "god of the air" which holds sway over the minds of the people?

I haven't looked up the verses on beasts yet, but if i can say so, humbly and kindly, there's (surely?) an important (pivotal) difference between the children of God (and even the children of men) and beasts. Pivotal to this drama and dramatic production God is putting on.. Is producing, directing, and, starring in.. that difference is a key to everything that's true.

I gotta run for a bit.. but I'll be back, as I did look up "diabolos" etc, and found of course some interesting and intriguing things.. Mining in the treasure of the Word is never disappointing..

:Chinscratch: ("wheels within wheels?") :dunno:   

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rosered

QuoteIs armegeddon only within a person?

a simple reply to you Marie Glen ,

    for me its both  inwardly and outwardly   and has been and is and will be till the
    End 
   Just as Christ is was and will always be  forever and  always Solid as  the Rock  are real Rev

1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


Hbr 9:26   For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment  Hbr 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

for me this is the promise of the new heavens and earth ^


so is the beast is    still an ''IMAGE ''till it goes into perdition [destruction  loss ] please consider how this wording speaks to us [and is not , meaning its an image /idea not the real deal ]

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

  I sure hope this helps  a bit  explain  the newness of Life in and though Him
Jesus is the reward  !!

marie glen

Quote from: Lazarus Short on April 20, 2013, 12:26:43 AM
In reference to the thread title, I look forward to the end of this age, for it means "Arm-a-gettin" outta here...!  :laughing7:

:rolllol: I am going to remember that one! thanks.. :LH:
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Lazarus Short

Quote from: marie glen on April 20, 2013, 12:56:52 AM
Quote from: Lazarus Short on April 20, 2013, 12:26:43 AM
In reference to the thread title, I look forward to the end of this age, for it means "Arm-a-gettin" outta here...!  :laughing7:

:rolllol: I am going to remember that one! thanks.. :LH:

OK, thank you!  I had felt after I posted it that I had cracked a bad joke in the middle of a serious discussion.  I confess I'm a bit baffled by this thread.  Is it about the general versus the personal, or the literal versus the figurative?
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

rosered

Quote from: marie glen on April 20, 2013, 12:45:43 AM
thank-you Rosered, :gsmile:

yes, forums can be difficult, i think i always (well almost always:) 'talk' very softly and friendly but sometimes i'm not so sure that's how it's reaching people's ears, rofL..

..before I mention what I found about devils.. I understand what others are saying, here, what I can't understand is, except for perhaps, possibly, one or two exceptions, why no one can understand what I'm saying. I'm not even saying that anyone's wrong about Bible prophecy.. I'm just trying to present another dimension.

Also, I come across a few people who instinctively understand a truth. And sometimes I can help them locate the confirmation of it in God's Word. Don't get me wrong.. I did think - and have stayed away - that there was the belief that God's Word was only allegory and metaphor. That it has only a spiritual meaning or lesson, and not a world stage message. This, is very important to me. That it be upheld in its fullness. Because God has touched my heart and my life and my days.. and I know, I'm not delusional.

God is doing such a wonderful thing! I know everyone knows that.. but I mean even more so..
It seems (and of course I may be wrong, lol :) that the belief is in, say, an inner vine and fruit tree, everyone, or each one, will abide under.. and no one will bother them.. (Micah 4:3,4) But not a real fruit tree and vine in a literal paradise?

I have no doubt, and I understand that we all battle the beast.. but also, who was Paul referring to when he talked about the "god of the air" which holds sway over the minds of the people?

I haven't looked up the verses on beasts yet, but if i can say so, humbly and kindly, there's (surely?) an important (pivotal) difference between the children of God (and even the children of men) and beasts. Pivotal to this drama and dramatic production God is putting on.. Is producing, directing, and, starring in.. that difference is a key to everything that's true.

I gotta run for a bit.. but I'll be back, as I did look up "diabolos" etc, and found of course some interesting and intriguing things.. Mining in the treasure of the Word is never disappointing..

:Chinscratch: ("wheels within wheels?") :dunno:
YES !yes , yes sister Marie    , 
I too get very excited about the discoveries in his word!!  but do find it hard to share with others
and certainly   the  joy within my spirit  when the refreshing comes ! :)  its a THANK YOU LORD JESUS !    You  have touched on many things in your above posts that  have also  been blessed to consider  and ponder over  , like Pauls    power of the prince of the air ?   our minds as well as considered it the media  , those air waves that  give news and information , in  not all truth but only as they see fit to share Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience
  Only God knows the intent of the heart  and motives and  actions of course ,and that spirit of an adversary   to the will of God ,  I have also wondered why I have done as I did in a few things and  it worries me to think , why did I do that ?
and we can read Pauls explaining in Romans 7 oh wretched man that I am  , its no longer I but the sin that dwells in me  ,   that helps alot , His  HOLY WORD is a comfort as well as a  rod for my back at times , till sin is no more a  part of what keeps me from My Lord and Savior .  I am learning not to run away  BUT TO Him   when the sin abounds , now that was a long time a coming  , but  I can never be worthy , its the Lord who is worthy and have learned in such hard ways , to always ACKNOWLEDGE HIM especially in times of troubles   and hardships  when others come  to rob and steal the joy that the  Lord  gives His children 
love talking to you sis , Thanks for your well and thoughtful post !!!  much appreciated   :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

rosered

Quote from: Lazarus Short on April 20, 2013, 01:02:33 AM
Quote from: marie glen on April 20, 2013, 12:56:52 AM
Quote from: Lazarus Short on April 20, 2013, 12:26:43 AM
In reference to the thread title, I look forward to the end of this age, for it means "Arm-a-gettin" outta here...!  :laughing7:

:rolllol: I am going to remember that one! thanks.. :LH:

OK, thank you!  I had felt after I posted it that I had cracked a bad joke in the middle of a serious discussion.  I confess I'm a bit baffled by this thread.  Is it about the general versus the personal, or the literal versus the figurative?
If I may Bro Laz ,  it seems to be the matter of perspective we look into His Word with 
  our eyes of understanding
  I loved your with , I miss that wit in  a brother who has left  this forum Bro T  aka Whitewings

  and another Bro  G ,  Graham or Tafffy     who has since past over into the rest and Glory and presence of the Lord  , doing greater things than these because Jesus  has went to the Father and sits on the right hand of the throne

  This is just my perspective of course , but its a confort to me  in these times 


carry on    Bro Laz :dsunny:     Isaacs  the   children of promise    the very name   meaning ''he who laughs ''!  :laughing7:   Isaac = "he laughs"

Jesus is the reward  !!

anna274

Quote from: rosered on April 20, 2013, 01:24:53 AM
Quote from: Lazarus Short on April 20, 2013, 01:02:33 AM
Quote from: marie glen on April 20, 2013, 12:56:52 AM
Quote from: Lazarus Short on April 20, 2013, 12:26:43 AM
In reference to the thread title, I look forward to the end of this age, for it means "Arm-a-gettin" outta here...!  :laughing7:

:rolllol: I am going to remember that one! thanks.. :LH:

OK, thank you!  I had felt after I posted it that I had cracked a bad joke in the middle of a serious discussion.  I confess I'm a bit baffled by this thread.  Is it about the general versus the personal, or the literal versus the figurative?
If I may Bro Laz ,  it seems to be the matter of perspective we look into His Word with 
  our eyes of understanding
  I loved your with , I miss that wit in  a brother who has left  this forum Bro T  aka Whitewings

  and another Bro  G ,  Graham or Tafffy     who has since past over into the rest and Glory and presence of the Lord  , doing greater things than these because Jesus  has went to the Father and sits on the right hand of the throne

  This is just my perspective of course , but its a confort to me  in these times 


carry on    Bro Laz :dsunny:     Isaacs  the   children of promise    the very name   meaning "he who laughs "!  :laughing7:   Isaac = "he laughs"

Hi Rosie:  I both smiled and cried (literally) when I read your reply.  Smiled :)-- I had read Laz's comment earlier-- at a time in my "vacation" when I really needed a light-hearted moment amidst all the troubling events of this world and was happy later when I read Marie's reply. 

and cried when I read your comments about Taffy and Whitewings.  I miss both so much.  I knew Taffy better as Graham -- I met him at Bible-Truths forum and followed him and Laren (Zeek) to Tentmaker Forum in 2004...  Graham and I  continued an email fellowship until he passed (I can hardly think that word... but am so happy for him... he is free of so much physical pain) Just recently heard again from Laren.   

I miss Whitewings more than I can say... his wit kept me on my toes... and all his wonderful invaluable informative posts kept me busy in refining many of my studies...I often refer back especially to the many, many Hebrew idioms...   

Well, I am still on vacation away from my computer... part of the vacation is work-time for my friend to help me become a bit more tech literate about all things electronic.  It's been fun... last night I came online here at TM forum to find the post in which Jabcat shared a video of Where would I be --- I found it and my friend showed me how to access the video via youtube.com and I really smiled out loud when I saw his picture.... like Lomarah... I agree Jabcat looks different from what I had imagined... well that's for another thread that I plan to start when I get back from being away from my computer... 

rosered

  Thank  you so much sister Anna , 
you made me smile   :HeartThrob:, God bless you always my sister in the Lord ,  I too miss those  sweet  hearts  always !    your encouaging words were food to my soul ! love you  :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

Lazarus Short

Quote from: rosered on April 20, 2013, 01:24:53 AM


If I may Bro Laz ,  it seems to be the matter of perspective we look into His Word with 
  our eyes of understanding
  I loved your with , I miss that wit in  a brother who has left  this forum Bro T  aka Whitewings

  and another Bro  G ,  Graham or Tafffy     who has since past over into the rest and Glory and presence of the Lord  , doing greater things than these because Jesus  has went to the Father and sits on the right hand of the throne

  This is just my perspective of course , but its a confort to me  in these times 


carry on    Bro Laz :dsunny:     Isaacs  the   children of promise    the very name   meaning "he who laughs "!  :laughing7:   Isaac = "he laughs"

We are only separated from those we love and remember for a season, and then...together forever.  :cloud9: :friendstu: :cloud9:

Isaac = laughter, as his mother thought the idea of getting pregnant at her age to be quite funny.  It's an interesting exchange between her and God.  God (to me) seemed (at first) just a bit indignant at her laughing, but He took it well.  In fact, when she denied it, He said yes, you were.  I think He was gently teasing her.

Some of Isaac's descendants came to be known as Isaac's Sons, I-Sac's Sons, or Saxons.  They made the trek north and west after the fall of Assyria and/or Parthia.
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

jabcat

Quote from: anna274 on April 20, 2013, 02:39:52 AM
I agree Jabcat looks different from what I had imagined

evil twin jabdog?  i'm not tellin'    :laughhand:
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

rosered

  Bro Laz !  :thumbsup:  thanks
  Bro J , ha ha .. but   I loved your song and piano ! just beautiful
Jesus is the reward  !!

jabcat

  :mblush:

:HeartThrob:

thanks, bless you.  there's LOTS of talent on here.  It's amazing.  whether it's some of the others that sing, or those that write well, or some of you who know so much about the deeper connections of scripture - tying all the OT things into NT and even into future stuff - I'm on the surface with all that, I know so little...it amazes me sometimes...  quite a versatile group   :thumbsup:

the body does function, doesn't it?  :)  and not one member more important than another!   
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

marie glen


Rosered,
btw, :thanks:  :gsmile: for calling me sister.. for surely that is what we are..

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devils - only 4 references in the OT - every "angel" reference in the OT was #4397 "to dispatch, messenger"

Leviticus 7:7-9 (Young's Translation) - "and they sacrifice not any more their sacrifices to goats" (concordance #8163 "shaggy" from #8175 "storm, by implication fear") "after which they are going a-wh0ring; a statute age-during is this to them, to their generations. `And unto them thou sayest: Any man of the house of Israel, or of the sojourners, who sojourneth in your midst, who causeth burnt-offering or sacrifice to ascend, and unto the opening of the tent of meeting doth not bring it in to make it to Jehovah -- that man hath been cut off from his people."

Deuteronomy 32:16-18 (Young's) "They make Him zealous with strangers, With abominations they make Him angry. They sacrifice to demons" (#7700 "shade" from #7736 "to swell by implication insolence") "-- no god! Gods they have not known -- New ones -- from the vicinity they came; Not feared them have your fathers!" (The fathers did not fear them.) "The Rock that begat thee thou forgettest, And neglectest God who formeth thee."

2 Chronicles 11:14,15 "for the Levites have left their suburbs and their possession, and they come to Judah and to Jerusalem, for Jeroboam and his sons have cast them off from acting as priests to Jehovah, and he establisheth to him priests for high places, and for goats, and for calves, that he made" - (#8163 "shaggy" from #8175 "storm, by implication fear" and #5695 "male calf")

Psalm 106:36-38 "And serve their idols, And they are to them for a snare. And they sacrifice their sons And their daughters to destroyers" (#7700 "shade" from #7736 "to swell by implication insolence") "And they shed innocent blood -- Blood of their sons and of their daughters, Whom they have sacrificed to idols" (#6091 "image") "of Canaan, And the land is profaned with blood."

New Testament References (50, unless I counted wrong)

# 1139(6x) - "be exercised by a doemon" all italicized as closest, used with "possessed" same word #1139 -
- for instance: "Matthew 4:24 "and his fame went forth to all Syria, and they brought to him all having ailments, pressed with manifold sicknesses and pains, and demoniacs, and lunatics, and paralytics, and he healed them."

# 1140(40x) - "daimonion" "doemonic being" for instance: Luke 8:35 "and they came forth to see what was come to pass, and they came unto Jesus, and found the man sitting, out of whom the demons had gone forth"(#1831 "issue") clothed, and right-minded, at the feet of Jesus, and they were afraid;" 1 Cor 10:19,20 "what then do I say? that an idol is anything? or that a sacrifice offered to an idol is anything? [no,] but that the things that the nations sacrifice -- they sacrifice to demons(1140) and not to God; and I do not wish you to come into the fellowship of the demons(1140)." and luke 4:41 "And demons also were coming forth from many, crying out and saying -- `Thou art the Christ, the Son of God;' and rebuking, he did not suffer them to speak, because they knew him to be the Christ."

# 1142(4x) - "to distribute" for instance: Rev 16:13,14 "and I saw [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs -- for they are spirits" (#4151 "pneuma, current, breath") of demons, doing signs -- which go forth unto the kings of the earth, and of the whole world, to bring them together to the battle of that great day of God the Almighty;"
--- I decided to look up "angel" in the previous verse (all NT references are #32 "messenger, bring tidings): Rev 16:12 "And the sixth messenger did pour out his vial upon the great river, the Euphrates, and dried up was its water, that the way of the kings who are from the rising of the sun may be made ready;"
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might be enough for today.. my days have lots of interruptions, i can start a post in the morning and not be done til late afternoon.. :gsmile:
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marie glen


P.S Rosered, "airwaves" absolutely, amen!

Quote from: jabcat on April 20, 2013, 04:39:12 AM

evil twin jabdog?  i'm not tellin'    :laughhand:

                    :laughing7:  :laughing7:



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lomarah

Quotethe body does function, doesn't it?  :)  and not one member more important than another! 

That made me cry jab. Amen to that.  :HeartThrob: Love you bro. And all the rest of you!
(Ironically I was just talking with a friend about the body and each of us needing all the others...)

rosered

QuoteRosered,
btw,    for calling me sister.. for surely that is what we are..

Do you think God is creating His very own family?
Amazing studying  Sister Marie ,
  I love what you did , I have also done an indepth study on  them also  though the lexicons and strong definitions , you helped me brush up on them today

  you asked if i  thought the Lord is creating His very own family
  Most certainly I do  !

most certainly  Jesus Being the firstborn from the dead ,   death cannot hold Him 
Our Father is showing His power though His Son , the true church is Jesus Bride as He is  the bridegroom   [Head and Authority ]  , and this new family created  a new  is to the glory of God  the Father  :HeartThrob:


Quotemight be enough for today.. my days have lots of interruptions, i can start a post in the morning and not be done til late afternoon.. 
I love your integrity sis !   I do,   your posts always bless  :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

mplsfitter539

Quote from: lomarah on April 20, 2013, 05:36:21 AM
Quotethe body does function, doesn't it?  :)  and not one member more important than another! 

That made me cry jab. Amen to that.  :HeartThrob: Love you bro. And all the rest of you!
(Ironically I was just talking with a friend about the body and each of us needing all the others...)
Ironically I was just telling someone the same thing today. She is just coming out of ET but she can talk the talk with UR. She may come here and even strike up a conversation with someone here. She seems very interested in how we found each other and what types of things we find interesting to chat about. I told her that it was like I finally met all of my long lost brothers and sisters.  :banana:
Shema O Israel, Yahweh our Elohim is Yahweh echad!!!

sheila

   :thumbsup:  mpls,  we all need each other!!!!    :HeartThrob: