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Discussions Relating to Universal Reconciliation => Bible Verses Used to Assert Not All Will be Saved => Topic started by: Searching_For_The_Truth on July 28, 2014, 10:49:18 PM

Title: Vision of Heaven and Hell
Post by: Searching_For_The_Truth on July 28, 2014, 10:49:18 PM
Hello everyone,

I was just browsing through youtube and learned about someone named Dushan Yovanovitch who had a vision of Heaven and Hell. I understand that many hell testimonies aren't Biblical since they portray Hell as a playground for Satan and his angels. However, I am wondering if this one is any different. Feel free to also share your thoughts about this man's vision. Here is a link to the playlist

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL208D151A24899138

God Bless You all
Title: Re: Vision of Heaven and Hell
Post by: Seth on July 28, 2014, 11:51:30 PM
I don't trust visions that people have out of hand. I compare to the scripture always. What if I had a vision that everyone would be saved. Would Dushan believe it was from God?
Title: Re: Vision of Heaven and Hell
Post by: Lazarus Short on July 31, 2014, 04:33:35 AM
One of the things I have noted about Hell is that all the documentation comes from bad theology, bad translation, and fiction.  That fiction may come from Dante or Milton, and be a literary classic, but it is still fiction.  If this fellow's vision does not align with scripture, properly translated, move on, nothing to see here folks... :dunno2:
Title: Re: Vision of Heaven and Hell
Post by: eaglesway on July 31, 2014, 08:38:27 AM
If it does not line up with the word of God, it is fiction.
Title: Re: Vision of Heaven and Hell
Post by: micah7:9 on July 31, 2014, 09:54:39 AM
 :thumbsup: :iagree: :dsunny:
Title: Re: Vision of Heaven and Hell
Post by: Tom on October 09, 2014, 02:40:15 AM
I agree, and I've had a vision that not only confirmed scripture but actually taught me that scripture really is the word of God.
Title: Re: Vision of Heaven and Hell
Post by: Tom on October 09, 2014, 03:08:16 AM
As I've reconsidered what I experienced after becoming aware of folks who think they went to "hell," I now think our visions are affected by our preconceived ideas of what we've come to believe about theology in our culture. Mystical experiences are perceived differently in different cultures. There does seem to be a common experience of the peaceful loving light though, and that conforms to scripture regardless of whatever culture one may be in who perceives the light even though they may be ignorant of our scriptures. I realize, as 2 Corinthians 11:14 says, that "Satan himself is being transfigured into a messenger of light," but I believe I was guided by holy spirit to read scripture as a result of my experience. That tells me it wasn't deception.
Title: Re: Vision of Heaven and Hell
Post by: Tom on October 09, 2014, 03:18:28 AM
I think Satan "is being transfigured into a messenger of light" in the church today especially by those performing "false miracles."

"For the secret of lawlessness is already operating. Only when the present detainer may be coming to be out of the midst, then will be unveiled the lawless one (whom the Lord Jesus will despatch with the spirit of His mouth and will discard by the advent of His presence), whose presence is in accord with the operation of Satan, with all power and signs and false miracles and with every seduction of injustice among those who are perishing, because they do not receive the love of the truth for their salvation." (2 Thessalonians 2:7-10)

But even they will eventually be saved from death and reconciled with God at the consummation of the eons when God will be all in all.