I'd link to it instead of only copy/paste, but I'm using the Biblehub app and is where I was reading it again and it really struck me or that is got absorbed.. say! Is that why our brain more resembles a sponge than a rock? :laughing7: sorry.. straying a little..
Pyr
pur: fire
Original Word: πῦρ, πυρός, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: pur
Phonetic Spelling: (poor)
Short Definition: fire, trials
Definition: fire; the heat of the sun, lightning; fig: strife, trials; the eternal fire.
HELPS Word-studies
4442 pýr – fire. In Scripture, fire is often used figuratively – like with the "fire of God" which transforms all it touches into light and likeness with itself
God's Spirit, like a holy fire, enlightens and purifies so that believers can share more and more in His likeness. Indeed the fire of God brings the uninterrupted privilege of being transformed which happens by experiencing faith from Him. Our lives can become true offerings to Him as we obey this imparted faith from God by His power.
[This is illustrated by God's fire burning continuously at the entrance of the Tabernacle where the priests made sweet-savor offerings. ( :faint: Love that!!) Compare Lev 6:12,13 with 1 Pet 2:5,9.]
What struck me is - there's only ONE "eternal" fire!! Yes?
Yes! Great description!
the word often used for 'eternal' is aionios which doesnt intrinsically mean 'eternal'.....the Hebrew word 'Olam' stands behind it as shown by fact that in the LXX, Olam is translated 'aionios'...and olam does not mean intrinsically 'eternal'.
:2c:the 'door'/'entrance' of the tabernacle...represents our mouth[blood of Christ on our doorpost]He who can'bridel"or control
His tongue is a perfect man.The change to a pure language/speech is TRUTH spoken in LOVE..not a'mixed'bag of lies and truth mixed.
The Holy spirit which leads into all truth rightly divides[cloven]those cursed[satan/evil spirits]from those Blessed By God[all men]
The flame of eternal LOVE God has for man[love is as strong as death]..is discerned from the consuming fire of which He burns the tares..
The consummation of Love is simultaneous with the destruction of all adversaries against it.
Quote from: darryl on July 28, 2019, 10:49:47 AM
the word often used for 'eternal' is aionios which doesnt intrinsically mean 'eternal'.....the Hebrew word 'Olam' stands behind it as shown by fact that in the LXX, Olam is translated 'aionios'...and olam does not mean intrinsically 'eternal'.
Amen! If only all believers knew that God's Word is infallible, but human translators are not! As a matter of fact, the translators seem to be rather fond of projecting.. running with some verses and some words.. Likely simply because of the beliefs of the time and the culture.. Making scripture conform to human ideas and beliefs. Even as still, we can do also.. our understanding of scripture shaped by our beliefs.. rather than our beliefs shaped by the scripture. :doh: :gsmile: The ancient afterlife threatenings were powerful controls of the people..
Quote from: marie glen on July 29, 2019, 12:35:01 AM
Quote from: darryl on July 28, 2019, 10:49:47 AM
the word often used for 'eternal' is aionios which doesnt intrinsically mean 'eternal'.....the Hebrew word 'Olam' stands behind it as shown by fact that in the LXX, Olam is translated 'aionios'...and olam does not mean intrinsically 'eternal'.
Amen! If only all believers knew that God's Word is infallible, but human translators are not! As a matter of fact, the translators seem to be rather fond of projecting.. running with some verses and some words.. Likely simply because of the beliefs of the time and the culture.. Making scripture conform to human ideas and beliefs. Even as still, we can do also.. our understanding of scripture shaped by our beliefs.. rather than our beliefs shaped by the scripture. :doh: :gsmile: The ancient afterlife threatenings were powerful controls of the people..
back in KJV days the rulers used fear religion to control the peasant masses...scare them into subission to fear based religion to serve own ends.