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Apologetics - Universal Reconciliation => Arguments Against Universal Salvation => Topic started by: nightflight on August 16, 2008, 11:40:15 PM

Title: Seeing Hell
Post by: nightflight on August 16, 2008, 11:40:15 PM
Maybe we can get Matt Slick or Eric Landstrom a copy for Christmas.


http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Hell-Trevor-Christian-Johnson/dp/1414102569/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213931581&sr=8-4

Product Description
How can heaven be heaven if there is a knowledge of hell among its inhabitants? Does an "heavenly ignorance" concerning hell exist for the Redeemed? Can the saints be happy with such a knowledge?

PDF location: http://virtual.rts.edu/Site/Virtual/Resources/Student_Theses/Johnson-Seeing_Hell.pdf
Title: Re: Seeing Hell
Post by: martincisneros on August 17, 2008, 05:04:37 AM
It's a part of Calvinist doctrine that the redeemed in heaven will have no knowledge of their loved ones in Hell.  It's a part of Augustinian doctrine that the redeemed in heaven will genuinely not give a rip about their loved ones in Hell.  Calvinism at least says that God tries to hide the failure to reach all by altering everybody's memories.  Augustinianism is just cold in some ways, but at the same time Augustinianism doesn't seem to envision as hot of a Hell as is envisioned by Calvinism after "The Divine Comedy" was written by a Catholic.  The "Christian" Hell really got it's teeth and it's horrors from about Aquinas and Dante onwards.  It's always been ominous to me that Aquinas was born the day that St. Francis of Assisi died.