Sometimes it feels overwhelming combating this stuff.
From someone's idea of "how to help people come to Christ" I guess; just saw a meme on facebook. It's the picture of a man's head on fire, partly decomposed, with the following;
4 Inescapable Truths About Hell
1) It is a place of inescapable torment Luke 16:23
2) It lasts forever Rev. 14:11
3) There is no escape Matthew 25:46
4) You didn't have to go II Peter 3:9
:eek:
I posted a link to Tentmaker. If anyone's not satisfied with the burning head, maybe they'll seek something further.
IMO That's the difference between the nature of man and the nature of God ...
man instills fear
God casts it out
:thumbsup:
I wonder, no one wants to be tortured forever! Who the heck likes pain?
They don't want their wicked acts revealed, but that is far different then being tortured and killed. And what if the person wanted God in hell? Why would God not accept their plea?
Love truly turns someone to God, not fear. Fear may be a short term tool God uses, but only fear will never produce a loving person, quite the opposite.
Quote from: jabcat on March 04, 2019, 02:55:37 AM
Sometimes it feels overwhelming combating this stuff.
From someone's idea of "how to help people come to Christ" I guess; just saw a meme on facebook. It's the picture of a man's head on fire, partly decomposed, with the following;
4 Inescapable Truths About Hell
1) It is a place of inescapable torment Luke 16:23
2) It lasts forever Rev. 14:11
3) There is no escape Matthew 25:46
4) You didn't have to go II Peter 3:9
:eek:
It is all a matter of perspective , Like Jugg said , its mans carnal mind and reasoning , I call it stinking thinking .
Because it is in no wise the righteousness of GOD working , But a stench in His nostrils .. and mark of the beast the great harlot of the earth rides upon , you cannot buy this line of thought or sell it or trade it without all manner opinions , creating an image of an ogre god in the minds eye of the fearful and unbelieving , yet innocent and simple .
I would say the man with the burning head is more of the sign of the Holy Spirit and fire and the partly decomposed head is the becoming dead to the world and not a bad thing , it is what will be changed after all, by the truth and knowledge of God , as the dead to the world and dead in Christ [rooted and grounded in the LOVE OF GOD ] rise first as the deadly wound was /is /and will be healed .[ King Neb of Babylon was cut down all but the root system was left in the earth for us to believe in GODS power over ALL the people ALL the time ]
proverbs 25 21If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. 22For in so doing,
you will heap burning coals on his head, and the LORD will reward you. 23As the north wind brings forth rain, so a backbiting tongue brings angry looks....
24 Better to live on a corner of the roof
than share a house with a quarrelsome wife.
25 Like cold water to a weary soul
is good news from a distant land.
26 Like a muddied spring or a polluted well
are the righteous who give way to the wicked.
Babylon captures her prey /little lambs with fear and you must buy what they are selling and eat what they provide and share what they are marketing and in the mean time they have no fear of GOD which is the beginning of true Wisdom and you Must put God first but the leaders [ under satan's authority ] is working though them are rebellious and consider themselves first ,and are full of PRIDE , that Jezebel spirit that false prophet image that buys and trades and sells salvation to the innocent and trusting that Christ is here or low there , deceiving their victims though lies of the devil :sigh:
But if one is humbling themselves and casting out all evil thoughts that are not pleasing to God be praying for healing and asking the Lord to rebuke any thought that is not pure and of Him out of our hearts , every prideful and bitter or foul spirit of hatred , judgement or condemnation on anyone ! healing the land / Body soul and spirit .
GOD IS THE PERFECT JUDGE and judges His people in all righteousness and according to their ways , taking every thought captive to Christ 2 Corinthians 10:5(NLT)
5 We destroy every proud obstacle that keeps people from knowing God. We capture their rebellious thoughts and teach them to obey Christ.
I do believe the Father is uncovering all the hidden evil , pride of life and exposing hearts big time right now .
proverbs 21 all of it NLT 21 Just as water is turned into irrigation ditches, so the Lord directs the king's thoughts. He turns them wherever he wants to.
2 We can justify our every deed, but God looks at our motives.[You are those whom justify yourselves before mankind but God knows your hearts motive ]
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God is more pleased when we are just and fair than when we give him gifts.
4 Pride, lust, and evil actions are all sin.
She in proverbs 2 to me is the soulish woman unchaste of the Lord and unfaithful to GOD , making the captive mankind bow down to her ways of thinking and teaching and two fold the children of torment .
Solomon knew all to well the corruption she brought to his house and marked it well in the Proverbs testimony
the same spirit is in all the ages and generations to watch out for from the beginning . She makes you think you need her to be near God but she is an abomination in His sight ........ and to come out of her my people unless you receive her plagues , that is the torment and confusion of every evil working against God and blasphemes His Holy name in darkness , ignorance and in the light , knowing better and continues to rebel .
Says the wrath of God will be finished up and found in her double as the body of death . in the old earth[ physical and spiritual ] and heaven [mind/heart spiritual &physical ] twice dead as doubled and destroyed . old soul & old spirit of Adams curse [adam is both male and female] as Eve come out of Adams side , So shall the new bride come out of Christs side . as They . as ONE have risen first & come down from heaven TRUE CHURCH,[ not made with any human effort ] and dwell with us in the new heavens and earth . as I can believe and tell it .
John 6 37 Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away. 38For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. 39And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that
I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day.... the Day of the LORD is described in Revelation 1:10 Being in the Spirit and not in the flesh thinking . when all these things will happen ......
I do believe they are happening now and the Holy Spirit is waking up many whom sleep in the dust as our old earthly man and kingdom ruled by evil reveals CHRIST coming in power .
We must draw our strength to endure from the Lord Jesus Christ right now and not loose heart , for He alone is faithful as promised from long ago .
Nothing can keep us from the love of God , not powers and principalities in high places , He will bring them all low as every knee will bow and tongue will confess the Lord Jesus Christ is whom He says He is , even those whom have pierced Him will confess Him ........
Quote from: MusicLover123 on March 04, 2019, 06:32:17 AM
I wonder, no one wants to be tortured forever! Who the heck likes pain?
They don't want their wicked acts revealed, but that is far different then being tortured and killed. And what if the person wanted God in hell? Why would God not accept their plea?
Love truly turns someone to God, not fear. Fear may be a short term tool God uses, but only fear will never produce a loving person, quite the opposite.
Fear creates an empty shell, but only love, the greatest of all emotions, can fill that shell, and give it joy, hope, and peace.
D.
lots of good thoughts folks :)
Quote from: MusicLover123 on March 04, 2019, 06:32:17 AM
I wonder, no one wants to be tortured forever! Who the heck likes pain?
They don't want their wicked acts revealed, but that is far different then being tortured and killed. And what if the person wanted God in hell? Why would God not accept their plea?
Love truly turns someone to God, not fear. Fear may be a short term tool God uses, but only fear will never produce a loving person, quite the opposite.
some people do actually like pain !.....weird people like sado- masochists.....so hell wouldnt be hell for them, perhaps
I was talking to someone just last weak about why people cut themselves, the response was to redirect their focus, that when they can focus on the physical pain it takes away from the pain of the struggles in the heart and mind between their thoughts or emotions, and that the cutting, just like any drug, is an escape from the struggles going on inside of them.
one pain for another pain, which I believe becomes a vicious circle. :sigh:
God's spirit brings peace of mind...which excels all thought...warring in the mind[wrestling good/evil mix from tokogae]is a battle
til all realize GOD IS GOOD. The constant accuser...'torments' and many a person is driven mad by such demonic madness.I have seen
them beat their head against a wall seeking release from the agony.
The request made unto God for a clean conscience...is a request for relief from such mental warfare waged by thekingdom
of darkness.
also known as the bitterroot[root of bitterness]that 'an enemy hath done this'in response to the angels question..".from whence comes
the tares?"
God's spirit can burn..the tares/chaff/corrupting deathly thoughts from man's mind...and write the royal law of LOVE and eternal
life in their mind and heart...bringing peace.
IT IS A REAL SPIRITUAL WARFARE AS TO WHICH SPIRIT WILL BE RULING[sitting] IN YOUR BODY[ GOD'S TEMPLE]..it is also
referred to as 'the battle for our soul"and'the battle of armagheddon"
we want to be found waiting and in peace..but as Jesus' revealation shows...He does go forth waging war in righteousness against
satan andjust like Elijah cuts to shreds with His sword the false prophecies/Baal doctrines..etc :2c:
also,if you can accept it...the corrupting spirit[satan/demons]that hold such a man in a vice-like head grip....is the 'rich man' as the
prince of this earth...that willrecieve not one drop of living water for his tougne..but...the man possessed will be resurrected[Lazarus]into
the bosom of His father. but satan and the demons will not be convinced....'even if someone rises from the dead.
the PARABOLIC meaning of the parable . Satan and his demons are very proud and arrogant and despise man in his weak fleshly condition
they believe themselves very much superior in every way...and exult in bringing all injurious manner of suffering unto us. They never
considered an act of mercy unto man. But God has chosen the weak and despised/fools in orderto put the strong and wise to shame.
Quote from: jabcat on March 04, 2019, 02:55:37 AM
Sometimes it feels overwhelming combating this stuff.
From someone's idea of "how to help people come to Christ" I guess; just saw a meme on facebook. It's the picture of a man's head on fire, partly decomposed, with the following;
4 Inescapable Truths About Hell
1) It is a place of inescapable torment Luke 16:23
2) It lasts forever Rev. 14:11
3) There is no escape Matthew 25:46
4) You didn't have to go II Peter 3:9
:eek:
Good Lord! Such an incompetant God.. can't help but lose 3/4's of humanity and 1/3 of His angels..
I love emojis but I am totally confused on which one to use right now.. Maybe this one :Ptuwee" or :gfish: :grave:
Where? is the logic?!?
"God is Love" and "Love never fails" (um, never!) 1 Jn.4:8 and 1 Cor.13:8 :HeartThrob:
I have considered the Holy Spirit and fire as the baptism/ to be dipped into both repeatedly by the Lord Jesus Christ
just as the Holy Spirit with water baptism was how it was done till one comes to Christ ,done by the FATHER
John 6:44
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.
John 6:65
And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."
John 6:37
"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.
John 6:45
"It is written in the prophets, 'AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD.' Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.
John 5:40
and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.
I can also see this in a persons mind , if the mind is dry land and must be wetted to take seed , though trial and error .
and can see how the mind of Christ is the judgment of burning off the "clutter" bad and hindering things to make the true stand upright or the lifting up of Jesus Christ as the true headship and authority
gathered into Christ body as the promised land of old it is a living thing that can never die .
but fulfills all things the Father desires though the Son , by Him and for Him and though Him are all things reconciled to GOD and made alive and new from or though death of the old that are pershing though the using of such.laws or ordinances decrees .
mankind sees it as a bad thing but God uses everything for the good in the end , but most do not see the end , because they can only see the end of themselves . not the greater things He has done or doing already , just the suffering they know and understand , needing to ask HIM for more faith , the irrevocable gifts of God and hope and love that fulfills everything that remains tested and true .
mindful of the things of men and not God , I can even see this as a failure to give God the glory , because it is salvation by GOD though Jesus Christ and all that is being gathered into Christ already making it the HOLY SPIRIT /WITNESS of truth
working in all things for the eternal weight of glory
2 Cor 4 Treasures in Jars of Clay
...16Therefore we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away, yet our inner self is being renewed day by day.
17For our light and temporary affliction is producing for us an eternal glory that far outweighs our troubles.
18So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal....
faith , hope and love increase , comes from God our heavenly Father and are given though Our Lord Jesus Christ [rewards are with HIM ] and never dies but LIVES from the beginning to the end .Alpha and Omega
the kingdom of God is within you , in your midst
Definition
within, among/inside
The Coming of the Kingdom
20When asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs.
21Nor will people say, 'Look, here it is,' or 'There it is.' For you see, the kingdom of God is in your midst."
22Then He said to the disciples, "The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it....
Amen, perfection is still the reality! He is on the Throne.. He IS ruling. Because He "is perfect" we can trust that He does all things perfectly! Every single thing He does, and every single thing that He allows (collectively) is in order to bring about the very best 'end' result of all this - this wayward road. There being just the 2 roads? Life with Him, as on the throne/love ruling which is the road of life. Or the other road which is not life and cannot lead to life.. He being Life (what else would be the life force and spark of life?) And He "is perfect" makes imperfection to be the opposite of life.. and is that wrong road.. He's building a huge detour! The first one.. in Adam, He engineered and we all travel that wrong road.. Every one of us, of every generation and from every nation (and time) upon that great day of the great white throne judgment.. will have their own witness and testimony of how utterly it fails. (In our own individual life.. and collectively). All those stories of history really nailing down the Truth to all.. That He is God. He is writing "life" on every heart. And love, they being the same thing -- Him. :dsunny:
PS - "salted with fire" ..."hot coals on the head!" Amen sister, like burning a pasture of old useless growth, which is choking off any new growth, so the fresh new green growth can appear and grow.. :thumbsup:
Quote from: marie glen on July 17, 2019, 07:22:05 PM
PS - "salted with fire" ..."hot coals on the head!" Amen sister, like burning a pasture of old useless growth, which is choking off any new growth, so the fresh new green growth can appear and grow.. :thumbsup:
Amen sis!! :thumbsup:
Quote from: jabcat on March 04, 2019, 03:06:12 AM
I posted a link to Tentmaker. If anyone's not satisfied with the burning head, maybe they'll seek something further.
You do have a way with words, jabcat!
:ghaha:
D.
We must draw our strength to endure from the Lord Jesus Christ right now and not loose heart , for He alone is faithful as promised from long ago .
Nothing can keep us from the love of God , not powers and principalities in high places , He will bring them all low as every knee will bow and tongue will confess the Lord Jesus Christ is whom He says He is , even those whom have pierced Him will confess Him ........
A great view, Rose. Stay focused on God, and know that nothing can stop us, for we always have our God.
D.
Quote from: Dandelion on July 18, 2019, 03:22:07 AM
Quote from: jabcat on March 04, 2019, 03:06:12 AM
I posted a link to Tentmaker. If anyone's not satisfied with the burning head, maybe they'll seek something further.
You do have a way with words, jabcat!
:ghaha:
D.
:wink1: :laugh:
Quote from: jabcat on July 18, 2019, 04:38:44 AM
Quote from: Dandelion on July 18, 2019, 03:22:07 AM
Quote from: jabcat on March 04, 2019, 03:06:12 AM
I posted a link to Tentmaker. If anyone's not satisfied with the burning head, maybe they'll seek something further.
You do have a way with words, jabcat!
:ghaha:
D.
:wink1: :laugh:
:laugh: :dsunny: , True of bro James !!! :friendstu: Love you sista D!!! :HeartThrob:
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