http://so4j.com/faq.php#judging_others
I don't know if I'm saved now. I don't do good works, I mean, I help people sometimes, but that's about it. I'm not a big time prophetess, so how do I know I'm not going to Hell?
Personally I find it a useless list.
Cool list of verses. Even more cool words in bold uppercase.
Where does it say AO goes to hell?
According to who's interpretation?
Lots of verses about false prophets and wolves. Easy to read. But much harder to understand who exactly those wolves are. It could just as well be the owner of that site.
Quote from: Andromeda_Organa on September 24, 2009, 08:41:03 PM
http://so4j.com/faq.php#judging_others
I don't know if I'm saved now. I don't do good works, I mean, I help people sometimes, but that's about it. I'm not a big time prophetess, so how do I know I'm not going to Hell?
Because the emotion you feel and go through when you read something is not what determines that.
I always personally find the tendency to quote Matthew 7:15-20 a little ironic, because it (and others) are verses that I've always felt seemed to be describing those who tend to quote them much more than those they are being quoted at. All the SCARY CAPITAL AND BOLD WORDS can't hide the fact that the fruits of those who preach eternal torment is fear, whereas the fruits of those who preach universal reconciliation is love. So if we are to judge a plant by the fruit it bears, then what ought we conclude?
I could discuss each verse they quote, but to be honest, that would be awfully long, and I don't think there would be much good that would come from that. The Pharisees could quote Scripture until the cows came home, but it didn't mean they actually understood or knew anything. One cannot know God simply by quoting the Bible, but rather one knows God through love. "Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." (1 John 4:7-8)
So, really, just ask yourself to what extent these people seem to love. And then you will know to what extent they know God. However powerful a motivator fear may be to so many people, there is no fear in love. (1 John 4:18) If something makes you afraid, you can be assured that it is most certainly not God speaking to you. The question ought never to be "Am I saved?" The question instead ought to be "Do I love?" Because that, at its very core, is what it is all about.
Wow GAB! I love your posts they always bless my soul ! :thumbsup:
I love to just read mostly now a days :HeartThrob: good stuff bro! :icon_flower: rose
LOVE is the way that leads to Life :happy3:
Quote from: Gab on September 26, 2009, 10:14:19 AM
I always personally find the tendency to quote Matthew 7:15-20 a little ironic, because it (and others) are verses that I've always felt seemed to be describing those who tend to quote them much more than those they are being quoted at. All the SCARY CAPITAL AND BOLD WORDS can't hide the fact that the fruits of those who preach eternal torment is fear, whereas the fruits of those who preach universal reconciliation is love. So if we are to judge a plant by the fruit it bears, then what ought we conclude?
I could discuss each verse they quote, but to be honest, that would be awfully long, and I don't think there would be much good that would come from that. The Pharisees could quote Scripture until the cows came home, but it didn't mean they actually understood or knew anything. One cannot know God simply by quoting the Bible, but rather one knows God through love. "Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." (1 John 4:7-8)
So, really, just ask yourself to what extent these people seem to love. And then you will know to what extent they know God. However powerful a motivator fear may be to so many people, there is no fear in love. (1 John 4:18) If something makes you afraid, you can be assured that it is most certainly not God speaking to you. The question ought never to be "Am I saved?" The question instead ought to be "Do I love?" Because that, at its very core, is what it is all about.
I loved this post
Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on September 26, 2009, 07:42:25 PM
Quote from: Gab on September 26, 2009, 10:14:19 AM
I always personally find the tendency to quote Matthew 7:15-20 a little ironic, because it (and others) are verses that I've always felt seemed to be describing those who tend to quote them much more than those they are being quoted at. All the SCARY CAPITAL AND BOLD WORDS can't hide the fact that the fruits of those who preach eternal torment is fear, whereas the fruits of those who preach universal reconciliation is love. So if we are to judge a plant by the fruit it bears, then what ought we conclude?
I could discuss each verse they quote, but to be honest, that would be awfully long, and I don't think there would be much good that would come from that. The Pharisees could quote Scripture until the cows came home, but it didn't mean they actually understood or knew anything. One cannot know God simply by quoting the Bible, but rather one knows God through love. "Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." (1 John 4:7-8)
So, really, just ask yourself to what extent these people seem to love. And then you will know to what extent they know God. However powerful a motivator fear may be to so many people, there is no fear in love. (1 John 4:18) If something makes you afraid, you can be assured that it is most certainly not God speaking to you. The question ought never to be "Am I saved?" The question instead ought to be "Do I love?" Because that, at its very core, is what it is all about.
I loved this post
I do too ''Jesus hands are kind '' GAB is fairly new and I have read many of His posts and I dont always comment on everyones posts
but so many of my bros and sistas , my Family in the household of God
do bless me often , I do get quicked with a newness of Life in Christ within me at times when I am most discouraged , Love this place bro! been here for a long while now ...
you have already blessed me with your posts , I have seen you come in all bright and shiny like a star on fire! I just hope you can keep the light/ fire going bro !
do not give up and stay here awhile among friends and family :HeartThrob:
we are all in this together the Body of Christ is ALIVE and well in the earth/heavens :thumbsup: rose
Quote from: rosered on September 26, 2009, 07:51:08 PM
Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on September 26, 2009, 07:42:25 PM
Quote from: Gab on September 26, 2009, 10:14:19 AM
I always personally find the tendency to quote Matthew 7:15-20 a little ironic, because it (and others) are verses that I've always felt seemed to be describing those who tend to quote them much more than those they are being quoted at. All the SCARY CAPITAL AND BOLD WORDS can't hide the fact that the fruits of those who preach eternal torment is fear, whereas the fruits of those who preach universal reconciliation is love. So if we are to judge a plant by the fruit it bears, then what ought we conclude?
I could discuss each verse they quote, but to be honest, that would be awfully long, and I don't think there would be much good that would come from that. The Pharisees could quote Scripture until the cows came home, but it didn't mean they actually understood or knew anything. One cannot know God simply by quoting the Bible, but rather one knows God through love. "Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." (1 John 4:7-8)
So, really, just ask yourself to what extent these people seem to love. And then you will know to what extent they know God. However powerful a motivator fear may be to so many people, there is no fear in love. (1 John 4:18) If something makes you afraid, you can be assured that it is most certainly not God speaking to you. The question ought never to be "Am I saved?" The question instead ought to be "Do I love?" Because that, at its very core, is what it is all about.
I loved this post
I do too "Jesus hands are kind " GAB is fairly new and I have read many of His posts and I dont always comment on everyones posts
but so many of my bros and sistas , my Family in the household of God
do bless me often , I do get quicked with a newness of Life in Christ within me at times when I am most discouraged , Love this place bro! been here for a long while now ...
you have already blessed me with your posts , I have seen you come in all bright and shiny like a star on fire! I just hope you can keep the light/ fire going bro !
do not give up and stay here awhile among friends and family :HeartThrob:
we are all in this together the Body of Christ is ALIVE and well in the earth/heavens :thumbsup: rose
I love it here too. On my own my healing would have taken a LOT longer, but the love in here has healed me a lot faster than i could have imagined, and im truly thankful for that and always will be.
Quote from: rosered on September 26, 2009, 07:51:08 PM
Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on September 26, 2009, 07:42:25 PM
Quote from: Gab on September 26, 2009, 10:14:19 AM
I always personally find the tendency to quote Matthew 7:15-20 a little ironic, because it (and others) are verses that I've always felt seemed to be describing those who tend to quote them much more than those they are being quoted at. All the SCARY CAPITAL AND BOLD WORDS can't hide the fact that the fruits of those who preach eternal torment is fear, whereas the fruits of those who preach universal reconciliation is love. So if we are to judge a plant by the fruit it bears, then what ought we conclude?
I could discuss each verse they quote, but to be honest, that would be awfully long, and I don't think there would be much good that would come from that. The Pharisees could quote Scripture until the cows came home, but it didn't mean they actually understood or knew anything. One cannot know God simply by quoting the Bible, but rather one knows God through love. "Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." (1 John 4:7-8)
So, really, just ask yourself to what extent these people seem to love. And then you will know to what extent they know God. However powerful a motivator fear may be to so many people, there is no fear in love. (1 John 4:18) If something makes you afraid, you can be assured that it is most certainly not God speaking to you. The question ought never to be "Am I saved?" The question instead ought to be "Do I love?" Because that, at its very core, is what it is all about.
I loved this post
I do too "Jesus hands are kind " GAB is fairly new and I have read many of His posts and I dont always comment on everyones posts
but so many of my bros and sistas , my Family in the household of God
do bless me often , I do get quicked with a newness of Life in Christ within me at times when I am most discouraged , Love this place bro! been here for a long while now ...
you have already blessed me with your posts , I have seen you come in all bright and shiny like a star on fire! I just hope you can keep the light/ fire going bro !
do not give up and stay here awhile among friends and family :HeartThrob:
we are all in this together the Body of Christ is ALIVE and well in the earth/heavens :thumbsup: rose
Well, I'm flattered by your compliments, although I must admit that I am constantly humbled by the amazing grasp that so many here have with the incredible intricacies regarding what Scripture speaks of. I suppose that is perhaps the Lord reminding me of just how far I still have to go in my understanding of him. :smile:
I suppose that that is what is beautiful about coming together in the name of the Lord, though: everyone comes out a winner. :wink:
Quote from: Gab on September 27, 2009, 09:27:19 AM
I suppose that that is what is beautiful about coming together in the name of the Lord, though: everyone comes out a winner. :wink:
:thumbsup: amen to that Bro !
Glory to God :cloud9:
I must have missed this post . . :HeartThrob: rose