questions about theion and basanizo

[WhiteWings]

Again, DC

"fire and sulphur" was pretty common in Homer's works.. I forgot what part of the Odyssey..

But in Iliad chapter 16 (as written in many, many of the articles on LOF), there is spoken of a goblet that is purified with fire and brimstone...

It doesn't matter how many times basanos and theion were paired, but the fact that John puts these terms together when speaking of the LOF - we can know beyond a doubt what God's purposes are for...

Read this short thread

http://www.gtft.org/Library/pridgeon/IsHellEternal011.htm
The Lake of Fire and Brimstone signifies a fire burning with brimstone; the word "brimstone" or sulfur defines the character of the fire.
     The word theion translated "brimstone" is exactly the same word theion which means "divine." Sulfur was sacred to the deity among the ancient Greeks; and was used to fumigate, to purify, and to cleanse and to consecrate to the deity; for this purpose they burned it in their incense. In Homer's Iliad (16:228) one is spoken of as purifying a goblet with fire and brimstone. The verb derived from theion is theioo, which means to hallow, to make divine, or to dedicate to a god. (See Liddell and Scott Greek-English Lexicon, 1897 Edition.)

[PaoloNuevo]

49"'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. 51Samaria did not commit half the sins you did. You have done more detestable things than they, and have made your sisters seem righteous by all these things you have done. 52Bear your disgrace, for you have furnished some justification for your sisters. Because your sins were more vile than theirs, they appear more righteous than you. So then, be ashamed and bear your disgrace, for you have made your sisters appear righteous.

53"'However, I will restore the fortunes of Sodom and her daughters and of Samaria and her daughters, and your fortunes along with them,

Oh well.....  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I'm not too sure about that Bro. Paolo.  I've read where "burning something up", such as Sodom and Gomorrah, actually is cleansing.  Apparently back in olden days, they often burned bodies, towns, etc. to kill disease and cleanse the land.

Also, as described by J. Preston Eby, when something is burned up it doesn't actually totally cease to exist, rather it changes form.  I.e., wood to ashes, water to vapor/steam, etc.  Not sure about the Isaiah verse, haven't looked at it.  Do you think the above process might fit there too somehow?

I've read Eby using the term Combustion to change form... and I have a universalist Christian friend here who said everytime God torched something up in the O.T. it was also ALWAYS an act of consecration at the same time... Thing is I've kind of been erring on the more "destructive" as an end side to God destroying Sodom in the past and I've only associated some sort of benign act of purification solely in the LOF...

But I agree JabCat Hmmm, to kill disease and clean the land.... Might be a harbinger of what God will do in the LOF... though He won't annihilate them as He did those cities because the trials and testing in the LOF will be an ongoing process...

But thanks for pointing that out. I can see foreshadowings of the age to come in there..  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: