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Most Greek scholars agree that all is a common figure of speech, not rare as you've claimed.

Again, my friend, most Greek scholars do not agree with your assumption. I appreciate your Blue Letter Bible, and use it on many occasions for simplicity. But remember this: the Blue Letter Bible is based on the numbering system and definitions of Dr James Strong. This is how Dr. Strong defines pa'ß.

pa'ß =

Pas; Including all the forms of declension; apparently a primitive word; all, any, every, the whole:--all (manner of, means), alway (-s) any (one), X daily, + ever, every (one, way), as many as, + bi (-thing), X throughly, whatsover, whole, whosover.

You will note how the notes of Charles Spurgeon have made their way into the original definition of James Strong.

Not everyone has to be part of the restitution. All, does not usually mean each and everything.

That is precisely what pa'ß means. We will await your presentation of "most" Greek scholars who would present otherwise, and while we wait lets hear from W.E. Vine M.A., author of A Greek Testament Grammar, and, A Comprehensive Dictionary of the Original Greek Words with their precise Meanings for English Readers.

All = pa'ß =

Adjective #3956

Radically means "all."

Used without the article it means "every," every kind or variety. So the RV marg. in Eph. 2:21, "every building," and the text in Eph. 3:15, "every family," and the RV marg. of Acts 2:36, "every house;"

or, it may signify "the highest degree," the maximum of what is referred to, as, "with all boldness" Acts 4:29.

Before proper names of countries, cities and nations, and before collective terms, like "Israel," it signifies either "all" or "the whole," e.g., Matt. 2:3; Acts 2:36.

Used with the article, it means the whole of one object.

In the plural it signifies "the totality of the persons or things referred to." Used without a noun it virtually becomes a pronoun, meaning "everyone" or "anyone."

In the plural with a noun it means "all."

One form of the neuter plural (panta) signifies "wholly, together, in all ways, in all things," Acts 20:35; 1 Cor. 9:25.

The neuter plural without the article signifies "all things severally," e.g., John 1:3; 1 Cor. 2:10; preceded by the article it denotes "all things," as constituting a whole, e.g., Rom. 11:36; 1 Cor. 8:6; Eph. 3:9. See EVERY, Note (1), WHOLE. 

Therefore as by the offence of the one judgement came upon pa'ß (all) mankind to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon pa'ß (all) mankind unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience the mass (poluvß) of mankind were constituted sinners, so too by the obedience of one will the mass (poluvß) of mankind be constituted righteous. 

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Dr. Robert Young Analytical Concordance

pa'ß =

All points, all men, all things. All, whole, completely. (1075 verses)

All = lk=

All, the whole, any, each, every, everything, totality. (24 passages)

All =lylk=

Entire, all. Complete, wholly. (15 verses)

All = br =

Multitudes/ abundance (149 verses)

All= o&loß =

All. Whole. Completely. (99 verses)

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Why not start with the Greek-English Lexicon Of The New Testament by William F. Arndt & Wilbur Gingrich

PAS, pa'sa, pa'n gen. pantov", pavsh", pantov" (dat. pl. pa'si and pa'sin vary considerably in the mss.; s. W-S. §5, 28; cf. Rob. 219-21) (Hom.+; inscr., pap., LXX, En., Ep. Arist., Philo, Joseph., Test. 12 Patr.).

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Greek-English Lexicon Of The New Testament

William F. Arndt & Wilbur Gingrich

[A translation & adaptation of Wm. Bauer's Griechisch-Deutsches Worterbuch zu den Schrift en des Neueu Testaments und der uberigen]

PAS, pa'sa, pa'n gen. pantov", pavsh", pantov" (dat. pl. pa'si and pa'sin vary considerably in the mss.; s. W-S. §5, 28; cf. Rob. 219-21) (Hom.+; inscr., pap., LXX, En., Ep. Arist., Philo, Joseph., Test. 12 Patr.).

1. adj., used w. a noun—a. w. the noun in the sing. without the art.—a.

Emphasizing the individual members of the class denoted by the noun every, each, any, scarcely different in mng. fr. the pl. 'all': pa'n devndron Mt 3:10; Lk 3:9. pa'sa futeiva Mt 15:13. pa'sa favragx, pa'n o[ro" Lk 3:5 (Is 40:4). pa'" tovpo" 4:37. pa'" a[nqrwpo" J 1:9; 2:10; Ro 3:4 (Ps 115:2); Gal 5:3; Col 1:28a, b, d; Js 1:19. pa'n e[qno" Ac 17:26a. pa'sa yuchv (Pla., Phaedr. 249e) 2:43; 3:23 (cf. Lev 23:29); Ro 2:9. pa'sa hJmevra Ac 5:42; 17:17. pa'n savbbaton 18:4. pa'sa ajrch; kai; pa'sa ejxousiva 1 Cor 15:24. pa'sa suneivdhsi" 2 Cor 4:2. pa'" a{gio" Phil 4:21. pa'" oi\ko" Hb 3:4. pa'sa ajntilogiva 7:7. pa'sa paideiva all discipline 12:11. pa'" ojfqalmov" Rv 1:7a. pa'n ktivsma 5:13a.—Mt 23:35; Lk 2:23 (Ex 13:2); 4:13; 21:36; 2 Th 2:4 (Da 11:36). pa'sa ktivsi" every creature Col 1:15; ejn pavsh/ ktivsei to every creature vs. 23. pa'sa grafhv 2 Ti 3:16 (cf. grafhv 2a).

—In the OT, also En. (1, 9) and Test. Gad 7:2, but not in Ep. Arist., Philo, nor Joseph., is pa'sa savrx (r`;oBƒAlK all flesh Lk 3:6 (Is 40:5). Mostly w. a neg. (so also En. 14, 21; 17, 6) ouj (or mhv). . . pa'sa savrx no flesh=no one Mt 24:22; Mk 13:20; Ro 3:20; 1 Cor 1:29; Gal 2:16. Other sim. neg. expressions are also Hebraistic (cf. Bl-D. §302, 1; Mlt.-H. 433f) ouj. . . pa'n rJh'ma not a thing, nothing Lk 1:37 (cf. PRyl. 113, 12f [133 ad] mh;. . . pa'n pra'gma). oujdevpote e[fagon pa'n koinovn I have never eaten anything common Ac 10:14. Cf. Rv 7:1, 16; 9:4; 21:27. Also in reverse order, pa'". . . ouj or mhv (Ex 12:16; Sir 8:19; 10:6, but s. also GMLee, ET 63, '51f, 156) 18:22; Eph 4:29; 5:5; 2 Pt 1:20; 1J 2:21; 3:15b.—Only rarely is a ptc. used w. pa'" in this way: panto;" ajkouvonto" when anyone hears Mt 13:19. panti; ojfeivlonti Lk 11:4 (Mlt.-Turner 196f).

b. including everything belonging, in kind, to the class designated by the noun every kind of, all sorts of,

For the words pantodapov" and pantoi'o", which are lacking in our lit.: pa'sa novso" kai; pa'sa malakiva Mt 4:23. gevmousin pavsh" ajkaqarsiva" they are full of all kinds of uncleanness 23:27. pa'sa ejxousiva 28:18. ajpo; panto;" e[qnou" from every kind of nation Ac 2:5. Cf. 7:22; 13:10a, b; Ro 1:18, 29. pa'sa ejpiqumiva (evil) desire of every kind 7:8. ejn panti; lovgw/ kai; pavsh/ gnwvsei 1 Cor 1:5b. pa'n aJmavrthma every kind of sin 6:18. Cf. 2 Cor 7:1; 9:8b, c; 10:5a, b; Eph 1:3, 8, 21 a; 4:19; 5:3; Phil 1:9; 2 Th 2:17. pa'n e[rgon ajgaqovn Tit 1:16; 3:1. Cf. 2:14; Hb 13:21. pa'sa dovsi", pa'n dwvrhma Js 1:17 (W-S. §20, 11b). Cf. vs. 21; 1 Pt 2:1 a, b; Rev 8:7 al.

c. every, any and every, just any, any at all mh;

Panti; pneuvmati pisteuvete do not believe just any spirit 1J 4:1. periferovmenoi panti; ajnevmw/ th'" didaskaliva" Eph 4:14. peri; panto;" pravgmato" about anything Mt 18:19. kata; pa'san au]tivan for any reason at all 19:3. Cf. 4:4=Lk 4:4 t.r. (Dt 8:3); Mt 12:31; 2 Cor 1:4b (on ejpi; pavsh/ th'/ qlivyei hJmw'n vs. 4a see 1cb below).

d. to denote the highest degree full, greatest, all

(Pla., Rep. 9 p. 575a; Demosth. 18, 279 al.; LXX) meta; parrhsiva" pavsh" Ac 4:29. ejn pavsh/ ajsfaleiva/ 5:23. pavsh/ suneidhvsei ajgaqh'/ in all good conscience 23:1. Cf. 17:11; 24:3; 2 Cor 9:8b; 12:12; Eph 4:2. ejn pavsh/ proskarterhvsei with the greatest perseverance 6:18c. Cf. Phil 1:20; 2:29; Col 1:11a, b; 1 Ti 2:2b, 11; 3:4; 4:9; 5:2; Tit 2:15; Js 1:2; 2 Pt 1:5; Jd 3 al. ajskei'n pa'san uJpomonhvn practice patient endurance to the limit Pol 9:1 (Kleist).

e. all, the whole before proper names, mostly geographic

(X., Hell. 4, 8, 28 prostavtai pavsh" Levsbou e[sontai al.; LXX) pa'sa JIerosovluma Mt 2:3 (s. JIer.). pa'" jIsrahvl (3 Km 8:65; 11:16; 1 Esdr 1:19; 5:45, 58; Jdth 15:14) Ro 11:26 (cf. W-S. §20, 11a and b; Rob. 772).

The OT is also the source of pa'" oi\ko" jIsrahvl (1 Km 7:2, 3) Ac 2:36 and, in subject matter, ejpi; panto;" proswvpou th'" gh'" 17:26b (but Gen 2:6 has pa'n to; provswpon th'" gh'", and 7:23; 11:4, 8, 9 ejpi; proswvpou [or provswpon¼ pavsh" th'" gh'").—Perh. pa'sa oijkodomhv Eph 2:21 (cf. W-S. §20:11 b; Rob. 772; Mlt.-Turner 199f; MDibelius, Hdb. ad loc.; M. Ant. 6, 36, 1; Dit., Or. 383, 86ff).

b. w. a noun in the pl., without the art. pavnte" a[nqrwpoi all men, everyone

(Lysias 12, 60; Andoc. 3, 25; X., Cyr. 7, 5, 52, Mem. 4, 4, 19; Demosth. 8, 5; 18, 72) Ac 22:15; Ro 5:12a, 18a, b; 12:17, 18; 1 Cor 7:7; 15:19; 2 Cor 3:2; Phil 4:5; 1 Th 2:15; 1 Ti 2:4; 4:10; Tit 2:11. pavnte" a[ggeloi qeou' Hb 1:6 (Dt 32:43. Cf. Demosth. 18, 294 pavnte" qeoiv).

c. w. a noun in the sing., w. the art.—a. the whole, all

(the), preceding a noun that has the art.: pa'sa hJ jIoudaiva kai; pa'sa hJ perivcwro" Mt 3:5. pa'sa hJ ajgevlh the whole herd 8:32. Cf. vs. 34; 13:2; 21:10; 27:25, 45; Mk 2:13; 4:1. pa'sa hJ ajlhvqeia 5:33. pa'sa hJ ktivsi" the whole creation Mk 16:15; Ro 8:22. Cf. Lk 1:10; 2:1, 10; Ac 3:9, 11; 5:21; 15:12. pa'" oJ kovsmo" Ro 3:19b; Col 1:6. pa'n to; spevrma Ro 4:16. pa'sa hJ gh' 9:17 (Ex 9:16); Lk 4:25. pa'sa hJ gnw'si", pa'sa hJ pivsti" 1 Cor 13:2b, c. pa'n to; plhvrwma Eph 3:19; Col 1:19; 2:9. pa'n to; sw'ma Eph 4:16; Col 2:19. Cf. Hb 9:19b,

c.—W. a demonstrative pron. pa'" oJ lao;" ou|to" all these people Lk 9:13.

pa'sa hJ ojfeilh; ejkeivnh Mt 18:32.—Following the noun that has the article: th;n krivsin pa'san the whole matter of judgment J 5:22. eu]" th;n ajlhvqeian pa'san into truth in all its outreach 16:13. th;n ejxousivan. . . pa'san Rev 13:12.

b. all ejpi; pavsh/ th'/ qlivyei hJmw'n in all our trouble 2 Cor 1:4a (on ejn pavsh/ qlivyei vs. 4b s. 1ag above); 7:4; 1 Th 3:7. ejpi; pavsh/ th' mneiva/ uJmw'n in all remembrance of you Phil 1:3. pa'san th;n mevrimnan uJmw'n all your care 1 Pet 5:7.

g. Oft. pa'" oJ, pavsa hJ, pa'n tov is used w. a ptc. every one who, whoever pa'"

oJ (Soph., Aj. 152; Demosth. 23, 97; Sir 22:2, 26; 1 Macc 1:52; 2:27) pa'" oJ ojrgizovmeno" Mt 5:22. Cf. vs. 28, 32; 7:8, 26 (=pa'" o{sti" vs. 24; s. g below); Lk 6:47; 11:10; 14:11; 16:18; 18:14; 19:26; J 3:8, 15f, 20; 4:13; 6:40; 8:34; 18:37; Ac 10:43b; 13:39; Ro 2:1, 10; 10:4, 11; 1 Cor 9:25; Gal 3:13; 2 Ti 2:19; Hb 5:13; 1 J 2:23, 29 al.; 2 J 9; Rv 22:18.—pa'n tov everything that (1 Macc 10:41): pa'n to; eijsporeuovmenon Mt 15:17; Mk 7:18. pa'n to; ojfeilovmenon Mt 18:34. pa'n to; pwlouvmenon 1 Cor 10:25; cf. vs. 27. pa'n to; fanerouvmenon Eph 5:14. pa'n to; gegennhmevnon 1J 5:4.

—An equivalent of this expr. is pa'" o{" (or o{sti"), pa'n o{ every one who, whatever (s. g above and cf. Bl-D. §293, 1; 413, 2; Rob. 727; 957), masc.: Mt 7:24; 10:32; 19:29; Lk 12:8, 10 (RHolst, ZNW 63, '72, 122-4), 48; 14:33; Ac 2:21 (pa'" o}" ejavn, after Jo 2:32); Ro 10:13 (pa'" o}" a[n, after Jo 3:5); Gal 3:10. Neut. (Jdth 12:14.—Jos., Ant. 5, 211 pa'n o{=pavnte" oiJ): J 6:37, 39; 17:2b; Ro 14:23 (o}n a[n); Col 3:17 (pa'n o{ti ejavn).

d. w. a noun in the pl., w. the art. all—

a. w. substantives: pa'sai aiJ geneaiv Mt 1:17; Lk 1:48; Eph 3:21. pavnta" tou;" ajrcierei'" Mt 2:4. Cf. vs. 16; 4:8; 11:13; Mk 4:13, 31f; 6:33; Lk 1:6; 2:51; 6:26; J 18:20; Ac 1:18; 3:18; 10:12, 43a; 14:16; Ro 1:5; 15:11 (Ps 116:1); 16:4; 1 Cor 12:26a, b; 2 Cor 8:18; 11:28; Eph 4:10; 6:16b; Col 2:13; 1 Ti 6:10; Hb 4:4 (Gen 2:2); 9:21; Js 1:8; Rv 1:7b; 7:11; 15:4 al.

—Used w. a demonstr. pron.: pa'sai aiJ parqevnoi ejkei'nai Mt 25:7. pavnta" tou;" lovgou" touvtou" 26:1. pavnta ta; rJhvmata tau'ta Lk 1:65; 2:19.

—Somet. following the noun: ta;" povlei" pavsa" Mt 9:35; Ac 8:40. oiJ maqhtai; pavnte" the disciples, one and all Mt 26:56. aiJ quvrai pa'sai Ac 16:26a. Cf. Ro 16:16; 1 Cor 7:17; 13:2a; 15:7; 16:20; 1 Th 5:26; 2 Ti 4:21; Rv 8:3. oiJ JIerosolumi'tai pavnte" Mk 1:5.—On the position of ejkei'no", e{neka, pa'" cf. NTurner, Vetus T V '55, 208-13.

b. w. participles pavnte" oiJ: pavnte" oiJ kakw'"

e[conte" Mt 4:24. pavnte" oiJ kopiw'nte" 11:28; cf. 21:12; 26:52; Lk 1:66; 2:47; 13:17; Ac 1:19; 2:44; 4:16; 5:5, 11; 6:15; 9:14; 28:30; Ro 1:7; 4:11; 1 Cor 1:2; Eph 6:24; 1 Th 1:7; 2 Th 1:10; 2 Ti 3:12; 4:8; Hb 5:9; 13:24; 2J 1; Rv 13:8; 18:24. Following the ptc. oiJ katoikou'nte" pavnte" Ac 2:14. ejn toi'" hJgiasmevnoi" pa'sin 20:32.—pavnta tav: pavnta ta; genovmena Mt 18:31. pavnta ta; uJpavrconta 24:47; Lk 12:44; 1 Cor 13:3. Cf. Lk 17:10; 18:31; 21:36; J 18:4; Ac 10:33b. Used w. a demonstr. pron.: peri; pavntwn tw'n sumbebhkovtwn touvtwn Lk 24:14. Following: ta; ginovmena pavnta 9:7.

g. prepositional expressions, w. which o[nte" (o[nta) is to be supplied: pavnte" oiJ ejn th'/ oijkiva/ Mt 5:15; Ac 16:32. pavnte" oiJ su;n aujtw'/ Lk 5:9. pavnte" oiJ ejn toi'" mnhmeivoi" J 5:28. pavnte" oiJ eij" makravn Ac 2:39. Cf. 5:17. pavnte" oiJ ejx jIsrahvl Ro 9:6. Cf. 2 Ti 1:15; 1 Pt 5:14. pavnta ta; ejn aujtoi'" Ac 4:24; 14:15 (Ex 20:11); cf. 17:24. Following: oiJ met! ejmou' pavnte" Tit 3:15a.

e. p. used w. pronouns.—a. w. personal pronouns: pavnte" hJmei'" we all Ac 2:32; 10:33a; 26:14; 28:2; Ro 4:16b. pavnte" uJmei'" Mt 23:8; 26:31; Lk 9:48; Ac 4:10a; 22:3; Ro 1:8; 15:33; 2 Cor 7:15; Gal 3:28; Phil 1:4, 7a, b, 8; 1 Th 1:2; 2 Th 3:16c, 18; Tit 3:15b; Hb 13:25. pavnte" aujtoiv Ac 4:33; 19:17b; 20:36. Following the pron.: hJmei'" pavnte" J 1:16; Ro 8:32a; 2 Cor 3:18; Eph 2:3. uJmei'" pavnte" Ac 20:25. aujtoi; pavnte" Mt 12:15; 1 Cor 15:10. W. art. oi{ pavnte" hJmei'" 2 Cor 5:10.

b. w. a demonstr. pron.: pavnte" ou|toi these all, all these

Ac 2:7. Mostly following the pron.: ou|toi pavnte" 1:14; 17:7; Hb 11:13, 39. pavnta tau'ta Mt 6:32; 24:8; Lk 7:18; Ac 24:8; 1 Cor 12:11; Col 3:14; l Th 4:6. tau'ta pavnta Mt 4:9; 6:33; 13:34, 51; Lk 12:30; Ac 7:50; Ro 8:37; 2 Pt 3:11.

g. pavnte" o{soi, pavnta o{sa all who, everything that, masc.: Lk 4:40 v.l. (for a{pante"); J 10:8. Neut. (Philo, Aet. M. 15; 28; Jos., Ant. 8, 242) Mk 7:12; 13:46; 18:25; 21:22; Mk 11:24; 12:44b; Lk 18:12, 22; J 10:41.
f. pa'" and pavnte" stand attributively betw. art. and noun, when the noun is regarded as a whole, in contrast to its individual parts (cf. Kühner-G. I 632f).

a. sing. (Thu. 2, 7, 2 oJ pa'" ajriqmov"=the whole number'; 8, 93, 2 to; pa'n plh'qo"; X., Mem. 1, 2, 8 eij" to;n pavnta bivon; Pla., Gorg. 470e hJ pa'sa eujdaimoniva; 2 Macc 2:17; 3 Macc 1:29; 6:14; 4 Macc 3: oJ pa'" novmo" the whole law Gal 5:14. to;n pavnta crovnon Ac 20:18.
b. pl. (X., An. 5, 6, 7 oiJ pavnte" a[nqrwpoi; Pla., Theaet. 204a ta; pavnta mevrh) aiJ pa'sai yucaiv all the souls Ac 27:37. oiJ kata; ta; e[qnh pavnte" jIoudai'oi 21:21. oiJ su;n aujtoi'" pavnte" a{gioi Ro 16:15. oiJ su;n ejmoi; pavnte" ajdelfoiv Gal 1:2.—W. numerals (Hdt. 7, 4; Thu. 1, 60, l) oiJ pavnte" a[ndre" wJsei; dwvdeka the whole number of the men was about twelve Ac 19:7.—JMBover, Uso del adjetivo singular pa'" en San Pablo: Biblica 19, '38, 411-34.

2. subst.—a. without the art.—a. pa'" everyone without exception Lk 16:16.—b. pa'n, w. prep.: dia; pantov" s. diav A II 1a. ejn pantiv in every respect or way, in everything (Pla., Symp. 194a; X., Hell. 5, 4, 29; Dit., Syll.3 1169, 27; Sir 18:27; 4 Macc 8:3) ploutivzesqai 1 Cor 1:5; 2 Cor 9:11. Cf. 2 Cor 4:8; 7:5, 11, 16; 8:7; 9:8b; 11:6a, 9; Eph 5:24; Phil 4:6; 1 Th 5:18.

g. pavnte", pa'sai all, everyone (even when only two are involved=both: Appian, Bell. Civ. 2, 27 §105 [Caesar and Pompey]) Mt 10:22; 14:20; 15:37; 21:26; 26:27; Mk 1:37; 5:20; Lk 1:63 and oft. pavnte" h{marton Ro 5:12 (on the sinfulness of pavnte" cf. the saying of Bias s.v. poluv" I 2aa; FWDanker, Ro 5:12, Sin under Law, NTS 14, '68, 430, n. 1).—ouj pavnte" not everyone Mt 19:11. Cf. J 13:10; Ro 10:16.—pavntwn as partitive and comparative gen. u{steron pavntwn last of all Mt 22:27; cf. Mk 12:22, 43. Even in ref. to a fem. (Thu. 4, 52, 3; Aristoph., Av. 472) ejntolh; prwvth pavntwn Mk 12:28 (but cf. Bl-D. §164, 1).

d. pavnta all things, everything.

In the absolute sense (Chrysippus in Stob., Ecl. 1, 1, 26 p. 31 W.; Ps.-Aristot., De Mundo 6; M. Ant. 4, 23; Ael. Aristid. 43, 9 K.=1 p. 3 D.: ajrch; aJpavntwn Zeuv" te kai; ejk Dio;" pavnta; Herm. Wr. 5, 10; Hymn to Selene in PGM 4, 2838f ejk sevo ga;r pavnt! ejsti; kai; eij" s!, aijwvnie, pavnta teleuta'/ [s. 2bb below]; PGM 5, 139) Mt 11:27=Lk 10:22 (cf. the lit. on this pass. s.v. uiJov" 2b.

At present the word pavnta is understood for the most part not of power [so most recently Bousset, Schlatter; also Arvedson 154], but of knowledge and teaching: HHoltzmann, PSchmiedel, JWeiss, Norden, Zahn, Harnack, Wlh., EKlostermann, OHoltzmann, Schniewind); J 1:3; 3:35; 21:17; 1 Cor 2:10; 15:27a (Ps 8:7), b, 28c, d (pavnta ejn pa'sin w. a somewhat different coloring: Dio Chrys. 54[71], 1) Eph 1:22a (Ps 8:7); Rv 21:5. Here we may class oJ w]n ejpi; pavntwn qeov" (cf. Aristobulus in Euseb., Pr. Ev. 8, 10, 10; 13, 12, 4 ejpi; pavntwn ei\nai t. qeovn; Porphyr., Vi. Plot. 23 tw'/ ejpi; pa'si qew'/) God, who rules over all Ro 9:5 (qeov" 2).

—Of a 'whole' that is implied fr. the context: pavnta ajpodwvsw soi Mt 18:26. Cf. 22:4; Mk 4:34; Lk 1:3; Ro 8:28 (s. Black s.v. sunergevw); 2 Cor 6:10; Gal 4:1; Phil 2:14; 1 Th 5:21; 2 Ti 2:10; Tit 1:15; 1 J 2:27. pavnta uJmw'n ejstin everything is yours, belongs to you 1 Cor 3:21, cf. 22 (Plut., Cic. 25, 4 pavnta tou' sofou' ei\nai; Diog. L. 6, 72). pavnta uJmw'n everything you do 16:14. prw'ton pavntwn 1 Ti 2:1. pavnta four times as anaphora (rhetorical repetition) 1 Cor 13:7 (cf. Libanius, Or. 3 p. 275, 4 pavnta fqeggovmenoi, pavnta ejrgazovmenoi, pavnta carizovmenoi).

—The acc. of specification stands almost in the sense of an adv. (Bl-D. §154; Rob. 487) pavnta in all respects, in every way, altogether (Hom.+; Aelian, V. H. 12, 25; Jos., Ant. 9, 166; Sib. Or. 3, 205) Ac 20:35 (perh. always, as Ps.-Lucian, Asin. 22 p. 590); 1 Cor 9:25b. pavnta pa'sin ajrevskw (s. ajreskw 1) 10:33; 11:2. Cf. KGrobel, JBL 66, '47, 366 and s. ta; pavnta in 2bb below.

—W. a prep.: eij" pavnta in all respects, in every way (Pla., Charm. 6 p. 158a, Leg. 5 p. 738a; Appian, Iber. 17 §64, Bell. Civ. 4, 92 §385; BGU 798, 7) 2 Cor 2:9. ejn pa'sin in all respects, in every way (PGiess. 69, 8; Appian, Bell. Civ. 2, 112 §467 [here ejn a{pasin=in all respects]) 1 Ti 3:11; 2 Ti 2:7; 4:5; Tit 2:9, 10b; Hb 13:4, 18; 1 Pt 4:11. Perh. also Eph 1:23b. ejn pa'si touvtoi" in (or besides) all this (Sir 48:15; Job 2:10; 12:9) Lk 16:26. kata; pavnta, s. katav II 6. peri; pavntwn in every way (Wilcken, Chrest. 6, 9; Sib. Or. 1, 198) 3 J 2. pro; pavntwn above all, especially (PReinach 18:27 [II bc]; BGU 811, 3; PAmh. 135, 2) Js 5:12; 1 Pt 4:8.

b. w. the art.—a. oiJ pavnte" all (of them) (in contrast to a part)

Ro 11:32a, b; 1 Cor 9:22 (cf. HChadwick, NTS 1, '55, 261-75); Phil 2:21. (We, they) all Mk 14:64; 1 Cor 10:17; 2 Cor 5:14b. mevcri katanthvswmen oiJ pavnte" until we all attain Eph 4:13.

b. ta; pavnta.

In the abs. sense of the whole of creation all things, the universe

(Pla., Ep. 6 p. 323d tw'n pavntwn qeov"; hymn to Selene in EAbel, Orphica [1885] 294, 36 eij" se; ta; pavnta teleuta' [s. 2ad above]; Herm. Wr. 13, 17 t. ktivsanta ta; pavnta; Philo, Spec. Leg. 1, 208, Rer. Div. Her. 36, Somn. 1, 241; PGM 1, 212 kuvrie tw'n pavntwn; 4, 3077) Ro 11:36 (Musaeus in Diog. L. 1, 3 ejx eJno;" ta; pavnta givnesqai kai; eij" taujto;n ajnaluvesqai. Cf. Norden, Agn. Th. 240-50); 1 Cor 8:6a, b; 15:28a, b; Eph 3:9; 4:10b; Phil 3:21; Col 1:16a, b, 17>b (HHegermann, D. Vorstellung vom Schöpfungsmittler etc., TU 82, '61, 88ff); Hb 1:3; 2:10a, b; Rv 4:11; 1 Cl 34:2; PK 2 p. 13 (four times).

—In the relative sense, indicated by the context, everything (Kupr. I p. 42 no. 29 ta;" stoa;" kai; ta; ejn aujtai'" pavnta; PGiess. 2, 14 [II bc] in a bill: ta; p.='everything taken together') ejn parabolai'" ta; pavnta givnetai everything (=all the preaching) is in parables Mk 4:11. Cf. Ac 17:25b; Ro 8:32b.

Of everything in heaven and earth that is in need of uniting and redeeming

Eph 1:10 (EugWalter, Christus u. d. Kosmos [Eph 1:10] '4; Col 1:20. ta; pavnta they all (of the members of the body) 1 Cor 12:19.

The neut. is also used of persons: Gal 3:22; cf. 1 Ti 6:13 (here including humankind and everything else that possesses life).

—As acc. of specification, almost like an adv.: ta; pavnta in all respects (Appian, Prooem. c. 6 §23) Eph 4:15 (s. pavnta 2ad above).

—As a summation of what precedes all this (Zen.-P. 59 741, 16; 59 742, 22; BGU 1509 [all III bc])2 Cor 4:15; Phil 3:8b; Col 3:8.

—Furthermore, pavnte" can also have the limited sense nearly all (Xenophon Eph. 2, 13, 4 pavnta" ajpevkteinen, ojlivgou" de; kai; zw'ta" e[labe. movno" de; oJ JIppovqoo" hjdunhvqh diafugei'n).—Mlt.-Turner 199-201; BReicke, TW V 885-95. B. 919.

Bauer, Walter, Gingrich, F. Wilbur, and Danker, Frederick W., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, (Chicago: University of Chicago Press) 1979.

[Hennessey]

 :thumbsup: Good stuff David, and when I get into a discussion with the hell fire boys I'll copy and paste that last post of yours and throw it at them ...... thus  making them believe I am really well versed and educated. lol

Hey, this caught my interest and I wondered if you could elaborate more on the bias of Strongs.

You will note how the notes of Charles Spurgeon have made their way into the original definition of James Strong.

Bless you and thanks as always for your sharing your gleanings,

Jack

[FineLinen]

:thumbsup: Good stuff David, and when I get into a discussion with the hell fire boys I'll copy and paste that last post of yours and throw it at them ...... thus  making them believe I am really well versed and educated. lol

Hey, this caught my interest and I wondered if you could elaborate more on the bias of Strongs.

You will note how the notes of Charles Spurgeon have made their way into the original definition of James Strong.

Bless you and thanks as always for your sharing your gleanings,

Jack

Jack: Dr. James Strong has provided a wonderful service in his exhaustive concordance of the Scriptures and the numbering system associated with it. My first copy was given to me as a young Christian by a precious Baptist pastor many moons ago. I still cherish it. Of course now with a click of a key one can pull up not only a Strong word, but the layers of support upon which the word stands. What wonderful tools are available to us today.

All of us have areas that have not been illuminated even when there is a Dr. before the name. I like to compare what I think I know with various translations of the Scriptures and Greek and Hebrew scholars. We had the distinct priviledge of visiting with Jonathan Mitchell, his wife, and a few disciples this year. Jonathan has a wonderful grasp of the Koine and is nearing the completion of his New Testament.

[Reverend G]

th-th-th-th-th-that's ALL folks!!

[Craig]

All is an adjective. All means all on its own but does always mean all unlesss it is qualified.

In the phrase: "All the world." Is the universe included?
No. All the world means all the world.
In the phrase: "All the universe." Is the world included?
Since the world is found in the universe,
Yes. All the universe also means all the world.

It also is used as a hyperboyle in many figures of speech, so you need to understand the language you are reading, speaking as well as need to qualify the adjective with a noun.

In the phrase: "All you need is love" Is love all you need? (now you can stop singing)
So in construction work, to pound in a nail to the plywood, all you need is love... or you need hammer too?

I don't know why you guys get all pumped up over words.

2 Timothy 2:14-15
Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

[FineLinen]

#1 -Rom. 11:36

"From Him everything comes, through Him everything exists and in Him everything ends."

Ta pavnte= the all things.

Ta pavnte = in the absolute sense of the whole of creation, the universe. Of everything in heaven and earth that is in need of uniting and redeeming. From Him ta pavnte comes, through Him ta pavnte exists, and in Him ta pavnte ends.

#2. -Eph. 1:-

"He has made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him. And you too, who in Him were made heirs, having been chosen beforehand in accordance with the intention of Him whose might carries out in everything the design of His own will."

The all things in the heavens, the all things in the earth, and you who once were dead in trespasses and sins. That in the dispensation of the fulness of times He might gather together in one, the ta pavnte en/in Christ.

Ta pavnte = in the absolute sense of the whole of creation, the universe. Of everything in heaven and earth that is in need of uniting and redeeming.

#3 -Col. 1:20

"God purposed through Him to reconcile the universe to Himself, making peace through His blood...to reconcile to Himself through Him, I say, things on earth and things in heaven. And you..."

The all things (the ta pavnte) in the heavens, the all things (the ta pavnte) in the earth, and you who once were dead in trespasses and sins. God has purposed to reconcile the universe (the ta pavnte) to Himself. The ta pavnte/ the all, encompasses the ta pavnte on the earth and the ta pavnte in the heavens. The ta pavnte= the all, the whole enchilada.

Ta pavnte = in the absolute sense of the whole of creation, the universe. Of everything in heaven and earth that is in need of uniting and redeeming.

[Craig]

Did we build our doctrine on words? If so, our doctrine will fail, because we did not build it on reason. Words are all quantified by adjectives and adverbs and verbs and nouns and concepts and propositions and stringed together in sentences to mean something. It is by reason, we recognize by common sense, that all is quanitified. It is by faith in the Son of God, that we build our lives and relationship with Him.

2 Timothy 2:14-15
Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

[Pierac]

Hi SOtw,

I get the impression FineLinen is not building a doctrine on words but attempting to understand the words given to us through scripture. I understand your point but I'm not sure it applys here.  :2c:
Peace,
Paul

[Craig]

Absolutely applies. Finelinen insists all means all, all the time. In reality it does not and that is why I replied.

[Pierac]

And you would be correct.  But I didn't get that impression.  :dontknow:

Paul

[FineLinen]

He is the head of His Body, the church, He is the beginning, the firstborn from among the dead, in order that He Himself may in all things occupy the foremost place.

http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?new=1&word=firstborn+from+the+dead&section=2&version=str&language=en

It is important to know that the word "things" is rarely found in the original Koine Greek.  When "all things" are  mentioned in many translations, the original Greek only has the word "all" meaning everybody and everything.  Many translations have added the word "things" to the word "all" which changes the meaning in many minds. 

Col 1:16 - 20

For by Him everybody and everything were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—everybody and everything have been created through Him and for Him.  He is before everybody and everything, and in Him everybody and everything is held together.  He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everybody and everything.  For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile everybody and everything to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, everybody and everything on earth or in heaven.
 

I believe all does not mean all in some instances.

Rarely, and I mean rarely, is pas a synecdoche or a metonymy in Scripture!

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. Everything around us of the creation that has breath/Spirit is in a state of corruption, and therefore is waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God.

I saw this amazing thing last year on one of the science channels about them discovering that with this new ultra-sensitive sound tech they have, when they listened to the sounds of crickets rubbing their legs together, they were shocked to hear what sounded like a symphany. I thought of how most people who have had NDEs, including my grandmother and uncle, said they heard the most beautiful symphany like music they had every heard when they were dead.

ALL of creation resonates with the sound of His Spirit, that formed it, thus we have the scripture, let everything that hath breath (Spirit) praise the Lord. It wasn't a suggestion, it's the nature He spoke into it at creation. Blessings to all........

[hopeful]

I can't wait to hear a sunset!   :Sparkletooth:  Or a sunrise!   :myahoo:

[Reverend G]

Better, try to make a sunset begin, or end.  Only from your viewpoint can that happen.  As we all know today, the sun is continuosly rising and setting 24/7, so the concept itself is relative.  Just like so many biblical concepts people wrestle with, it is our human perspective that twists the concepts from God's true meaning.  His thoughts and words, can never be fully understood by those of us here.  Yet it is better to misunderstand than to choose ignorance.

[Doc]

I've only found one instance in scripture so far where we can tell all doesn't mean "all", but it is made clear by the context. However, where it occurs might be a bit of a problem depending on how you interpret the symbols in Revelation. The text is Rev. 13:8 (CLV)

Rev 13:8 And all who are dwelling on the earth will be worshiping it, everyone whose name is not written in the scroll of life of the Lambkin slain from the disruption of the world."


So, here we see the word all used, but the context qualifies the "all" as "everyone whose name is not written in the scroll of life."

[sven]

Wisdom of Salomo 9:1 is interesting

O God of my fathers, and Lord of mercy, who hast made all things (ta panta) with thy word

Θεὲ πατέρων καὶ κύριε τοῦ ἐλέους ὁ ποιήσας τὰ πάντα ἐν λόγῳ σου

ta panta = the all/the whole - no believer wouldn't deny that God created the whole universe, the same word is used in Colossians 1:20

[chuckt]

http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/drumandbass/315/dsea/h002.html


[You are the source of all might] and the wellspring of all power; [yet are You also rich in wisdom] [and] great in counsel2 Your fury [is vented] in the presence of [ [yet are Your mercies] beyond number. [You are a God that visits wrongdoing;] [yet also a God] longsuffering in judgment5 In whatsoever You do, You have ever done justly.

In Your wisdom did [You call into being] [spirits] immortal, and ere You did create them, did foreknow their works for all time. [Apart from You] can naught be done, and naught apprehended save by Your will.4 You it is formed every spirit, [and set due rule] and role for all their works.

10 When You did stretch out the heavens for Your glory, and [command] all [their host] to do Your will, You did also make potent spirits to keep them in bounds. Or ever spirits immortal took on the form of ho[ly] angels, You did assign them to bear rule over divers domains: over the sun and moon, to govern their hidden powers; over the stars, to hold them to their courses; over [rain and snow,] to make them fulfill their functions; over meteors and lightning's, to make them discharge their tasks;7 [and You did set them in] promptuaries8 [whence You did cause them to issue] for their several purposes, to govern the mysteries of these things.9 When, too, in Your power You did create earth and seas and deeps, in Your wisdom10 did You set [with]in them [spirits immortal],

15 thereby to dispose to Your will all that therein is. [So have You made [his] flesh a promptuary] in [this] world for that spirit of man which You did create11 to last throughout all time and for ages infinite, that it might gov[ern his deeds]. You have assigned the tasks of men's spirits duly, moment by moment,12 throughout their generations; and You have determined the mode in which they shall wield their sway, season by season; yea, [You have prescribed] their [works,] age after age alike when they shall be visited with peace and when they shall suffer affliction.13 You have [ man's spirit] and duly assigned its role for all his offspring throughout the generations of time; and [You have ] it for all years of eternity. And in Your knowing wisdom You have ordained its fate, or ever it came into being.

20 By [Your will all things exi]st, and without You is nothing wrought.14 Shapen of clay and kneaded with water, a bedrock of shame and a source of pollution, a cauldron of iniquity and a fabric of sin, a spirit errant and wayward,1~ distraught by every just judgment-what can I say that hath not been foreknown, or what disclose that hath not been foretold? All things are inscribed before You in a recording script,16 for every moment of time, for the infinite cycles of years, in their several appointed times.

25 No single thing is hidden, naught missing from Your presence.

How can man say aught to account for his sins? How argue in excuse of his misdeeds? How can he enter reply to any just sentence upon him? Thine, 0 God of all knowledge,1~ are all works of righteousness and the secret of truth; while man's is but thralldom to wrongdoing, and works of deceit. The spirit that lies in man's speech, You did create.



love that stuff!


chuckt

[Redlettervoice]

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Chuck, a good link.  Thanks for that!!! I'll be reading.

[FineLinen]

The New Radical Unbelief Bible

1 Cor. 15:22

"For as in Adam some die, so also in Christ some shall be made alive. But each in his own order; Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming, then comes the end, when He delivers up the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished some rule and some authority and power."

Rev. 5:13

"And some created things that are in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and some things in them, I heard saying, To Him who sits on the throne and the Lamb, be blessing and honour and glory and dominion and power forever."

Col. 1:18-20

"He too is that head whose body is the Church, the Firstborn from the dead, he is to the Church the Source of its life, that in some things He might occupy the foremost place/ to be in some things alone supreme. For it pleased the Father that in him the divine nature in some of its fulness should dwell. And, having made peace through the blood of His cross, by him to reconcile some things unto Himself; by him, I say, whether they be things on earth, or things in heaven. And you that were sometimes alienated..."

Acts 3:20,21

"And He will send Jesus, your destined Christ, yet heaven must retain Him, until the restitution of some things. (when some things are put right)"

1 Cor. 15:28

"And when some things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him that put some things under Him, that God may be some in some."

1 Cor. 15:25,27

"For He must reign until He hath put some enemies under His feet...For He hath put some things under His feet. But when He saith some things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put some things under Him."

Romans 11:32

"For God has consigned some men to disobedience that He might have mercy upon some."

Eph. 4:10

"Yea, He who came down is the same who is gone up, far above some heavens, that He might fill some things with His Presence."

John 5:28

"Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which some that are in the graves shall hear His voice. Those who have done good will to live and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment."

1 Timothy 2:4

"For this is good and pleasing in the eyes of God our Saviour; who will have some men to be saved and come to an increasing knowledge of the truth."

1 Timothy 2:6

"For there is one intermediary (One who brings God and men together) who gave Himself a ransom in behalf of some to be testified in due time."

Cor. 5:15

"For the love of God overmasters us because we judge that if one died for some, then were some dead; And that His purpose in dying for some was that men, while still in life, should cease to live for themselves, and should live for Him who for their sake died and was raised to life."

Col. 1:16

"For by Him were some things created, of things in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen (angels or archangels and some of the powers of Heaven)....some things were created by Him, and for Him (some were made by Christ for His own use and glory.)

John 3:35

"The Father loves the Son, and has given some things into His hand (has given Him control over less than everything). Whoever trusts on the Son possesses eternal life and he who does not obey the Son, God's displeasure hangs over him continually."

Gal. 3:20

"But the Scripture has concluded/consigned some without exception to the custody of sin, in order that the promise by faith in Christ Jesus might be given to those who believe in Him."

Heb. 1:2

"God...hath in these days spoken unto us in His Son who is the predestined Lord of the universe. (whom he has appointed heir of some things)"

2 Cor. 5:14

"For the love of Christ constraineth/overmasters/compels/controls us, and this is the conviction we have reached; if one man died on behalf of some, then some thereby became dead men. Christ died for some, so that being alive should no longer mean living with our own life, but with his life who died for some of us and has risen again."

Heb.8:11

"And they shall not teach some men his neighbor, and some his brother, saying get to know the Lord, for some of them shall know me from small to great. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness..."

Acts 10:36

"The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: He is Lord of some.

Rom. 11:36

"For from him some things come; through Him some things exists; and in him some things end." (For of him and through him, and to him are some things.)

Eph. 4:6

"One Lord, one faith, one baptism. One God and Father of some, who is over some, and works through some, and dwells in some."

Heb. 12:23

"To the festal gathering and Church of the first-born, enrolled as citizens in heaven, and to God the Judge of some men and unto the spirits of righteous ones made perfect."

James 2:10

"For whomsoever shall keep the whole law, but fails in a single point, has become guilty of violating some."

Romans 3:22,23

"..the righteous of God which comes by believing in Jesus Christ. ...For some have sinned/ none have attained the glorious likeness of God/lack the glory that comes from God/ are deprived of the Divine splendour."

John 17:2

"As thou has made him sovereign over some of mankind that he should give aeonios life to as many as thou hast given him."

Romans 9:5

"The patriarchs are theirs and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. May God who is supreme above some, be blessed throughout the ages."

2 Peter 3:9

"The Lord is not slack/does not loiter/ is not dilatory concerning his promise, according to some people's conception of slowness; but He bears patiently with you, because it is not His will for any to be lost, but for some to come/reach repentance."

Phil. 2:10,11

In order that in adoration of the Name of Jesus some knees will bow themselves and openly acknowledge with joy, in celebration and praise, that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. This profession and confession of His lordship shall be open and freely proclaimed, acknowledged joyfully by some beings in the heavens, by some beings on the earth and by some beings in the underworld.

Please Remember...

All does not radically mean all.

Whole is not whole.

All = Some

[pneuma]

The New Radical Unbelief Bible

1 Cor. 15:22

"For as in Adam some die, so also in Christ some shall be made alive. But each in his own order; Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming, then comes the end, when He delivers up the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished some rule and some authority and power."

Rev. 5:13

"And some created things that are in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and some things in them, I heard saying, To Him who sits on the throne and the Lamb, be blessing and honour and glory and dominion and power forever."

Col. 1:18-20

"He too is that head whose body is the Church, the Firstborn from the dead, he is to the Church the Source of its life, that in some things He might occupy the foremost place/ to be in some things alone supreme. For it pleased the Father that in him the divine nature in some of its fulness should dwell. And, having made peace through the blood of His cross, by him to reconcile some things unto Himself; by him, I say, whether they be things on earth, or things in heaven. And you that were sometimes alienated..."

Acts 3:20,21

"And He will send Jesus, your destined Christ, yet heaven must retain Him, until the restitution of some things. (when some things are put right)"

1 Cor. 15:28

"And when some things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him that put some things under Him, that God may be some in some."

1 Cor. 15:25,27

"For He must reign until He hath put some enemies under His feet...For He hath put some things under His feet. But when He saith some things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put some things under Him."

Romans 11:32

"For God has consigned some men to disobedience that He might have mercy upon some."

Eph. 4:10

"Yea, He who came down is the same who is gone up, far above some heavens, that He might fill some things with His Presence."

John 5:28

"Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which some that are in the graves shall hear His voice. Those who have done good will to live and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment."

1 Timothy 2:4

"For this is good and pleasing in the eyes of God our Saviour; who will have some men to be saved and come to an increasing knowledge of the truth."

1 Timothy 2:6

"For there is one intermediary (One who brings God and men together) who gave Himself a ransom in behalf of some to be testified in due time."

Cor. 5:15

"For the love of God overmasters us because we judge that if one died for some, then were some dead; And that His purpose in dying for some was that men, while still in life, should cease to live for themselves, and should live for Him who for their sake died and was raised to life."

Col. 1:16

"For by Him were some things created, of things in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen (angels or archangels and some of the powers of Heaven)....some things were created by Him, and for Him (some were made by Christ for His own use and glory.)

John 3:35

"The Father loves the Son, and has given some things into His hand (has given Him control over less than everything). Whoever trusts on the Son possesses eternal life and he who does not obey the Son, God's displeasure hangs over him continually."

Gal. 3:20

"But the Scripture has concluded/consigned some without exception to the custody of sin, in order that the promise by faith in Christ Jesus might be given to those who believe in Him."

Heb. 1:2

"God...hath in these days spoken unto us in His Son who is the predestined Lord of the universe. (whom he has appointed heir of some things)"

2 Cor. 5:14

"For the love of Christ constraineth/overmasters/compels/controls us, and this is the conviction we have reached; if one man died on behalf of some, then some thereby became dead men. Christ died for some, so that being alive should no longer mean living with our own life, but with his life who died for some of us and has risen again."

Heb.8:11

"And they shall not teach some men his neighbor, and some his brother, saying get to know the Lord, for some of them shall know me from small to great. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness..."

Acts 10:36

"The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: He is Lord of some.

Rom. 11:36

"For from him some things come; through Him some things exists; and in him some things end." (For of him and through him, and to him are some things.)

Eph. 4:6

"One Lord, one faith, one baptism. One God and Father of some, who is over some, and works through some, and dwells in some."

Heb. 12:23

"To the festal gathering and Church of the first-born, enrolled as citizens in heaven, and to God the Judge of some men and unto the spirits of righteous ones made perfect."

James 2:10

"For whomsoever shall keep the whole law, but fails in a single point, has become guilty of violating some."

Romans 3:22,23

"..the righteous of God which comes by believing in Jesus Christ. ...For some have sinned/ none have attained the glorious likeness of God/lack the glory that comes from God/ are deprived of the Divine splendour."

John 17:2

"As thou has made him sovereign over some of mankind that he should give aeonios life to as many as thou hast given him."

Romans 9:5

"The patriarchs are theirs and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. May God who is supreme above some, be blessed throughout the ages."

2 Peter 3:9

"The Lord is not slack/does not loiter/ is not dilatory concerning his promise, according to some people's conception of slowness; but He bears patiently with you, because it is not His will for any to be lost, but for some to come/reach repentance."

Phil. 2:10,11

In order that in adoration of the Name of Jesus some knees will bow themselves and openly acknowledge with joy, in celebration and praise, that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. This profession and confession of His lordship shall be open and freely proclaimed, acknowledged joyfully by some beings in the heavens, by some beings on the earth and by some beings in the underworld.

Please Remember...

All does not radically mean all.

Whole is not whole.

All = Some

I like some of that :laughing7:
Good to see you again brother

[FineLinen]

Hi there Pneuma. It is always good to "see" you. My near death experience of 2008 has severely discombobulated postings for which most (some) are most grateful  :mshock:

–Robert Farrar Capon

"I am and I am not a universalist. I am one if you are talking about what God in Christ has done to save the world. The Lamb of God has not taken away the sins of some — of only the good, or the cooperative, or the select few who can manage to get their act together and die as perfect peaches. He has taken away the sins of the world — of every last being in it — and he has dropped them down the black hole of Jesus' death. On the cross, he has shut up forever on the subject of guilt: "There is therefore now no condemnation. . . ." All human beings, at all times and places, are home free whether they know it or not, feel it or not, believe it or not.

"But I am not a universalist if you are talking about what people may do about accepting that happy-go-lucky gift of God's grace. I take with utter seriousness everything that Jesus had to say about hell, including the eternal torment that such a foolish non-acceptance of his already-given acceptance must entail. All theologians who hold Scripture to be the Word of God must inevitably include in their work a tractate on hell. But I will not — because Jesus did not — locate hell outside the realm of grace. Grace is forever sovereign, even in Jesus' parables of judgment. No one is ever kicked out at the end of those parables who wasn't included in at the beginning."

[pneuma]

Hi there Pneuma. It is always good to "see" you. My near death experience of 2008 has severely discombobulated postings for which most (some) are most grateful

Well that explians why you seemed to disapear for awhile, so good to see the Lord decided to keep you around for awhile longer.
God bless

[eaglesway]

(Eph 1:11)  in whom we have also obtained an inheritance, being marked out beforehand according to the purpose of him who works all some things according to the counsel of his own will,

Thats why some things work together for good for all those who love God and are called according to His purpose.
:laughing7: