Isaiah 9:6 - Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
6 For a Child hath been born to us, A Son hath been given to us, And the princely power is on his shoulder, And He doth call his name Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace.
"Prince" is Strong's #H8269
שׂר
śar
sar
From H8323; a head person (of any rank or class)
KJV Usage: captain (that had rule), chief (captain), general, governor, keeper, lord, ([-task-]) master, prince (-ipal), ruler, steward.
#H8323
שׂרר
śârar
saw-rar'
A primitive root; to have (transitively exercise; reflexively get) dominion
KJV Usage: X altogether, make self a prince, (bear) rule.
-[Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions
שׂרר
1. to be or act as prince, rule, contend, have power, prevail over, reign, govern
Head and chief - He is Alpha!
The reason I did this word study/research this morning is because of something I read about the Roman emperors...
-- "they didn't adopt or use the word for king (rex) but used the latin word princeps which means First, that is, First Citizen. We know this title under the more romantic form of Prince." -- quoted from "A History of the Western World" L.J. Cheney
Rome began humbly as villages of farmers.. then ruled by senate of elders and two men called consuls. Rome did not like the idea of kings. But as its armies (legions) conquered, other peoples joined the empire. People used to kings, even seen as 'divinity'. Caesar was a charismatic general whose goal was world domination and he declared himself lifetime dictator (which the senate conspired against and killed).
His intended heir Augustus gained exclusive power (because Mark Antony, co-consul, got sidetracked by Cleopatra's charms) and took the title "Augustus Caesar Imperator"/Emperor-one who commands. He was the first Roman Emperor. "Other nations borrowed the title...Shah.. Tsar.. kaiser.."
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The word "prince" in Daniel 9:26 "prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.."
#H5057; a commander (as occupying the front)
From H5046 - A primitive root; properly to front, that is, stand boldly out opposite
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#G4413
πρῶτος
first, before
first, before, principal, most important.
Strong's:
πρῶτος
foremost (in time, place, order or importance)
Derivation: contracted superlative of G4253;
KJV Usage: before, beginning, best, chief(-est), first (of all), former.
1) first in time or place
1a) in any succession of things or persons
2) first in rank
2a) influence, honour
2b) chief
2c) principal
3) first, at the first
#G1 (alpha)
ἄλφα
the first letter of the alphabet; figuratively, only (from its use as a numeral) the first
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Colossians 1:15,18 - Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
15 who is the image of the invisible God, first-born of all creation...
18 And himself is the head of the body -- the assembly -- who is a beginning, a first-born out of the dead, that he might become in all [things] -- himself -- first,
Colossians 1:17,18 - Amplified Bible
17 And He Himself existed before all things, and in Him all things consist (cohere, are held together).
18 He also is the Head of [His] body, the church; seeing He is the Beginning, the Firstborn from among the dead, so that He alone in everything and in every respect might occupy the chief place [stand first and be preeminent].
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I ended up doing two studies at the same time, don't ask me why and which was driving me a little crazy, but the other study was on world empires and "seven heads are seven mountains, upon which the woman sits.. seven kings, the five did fall, and one is, the other not yet come..also is eighth, and out of the seven"
And this study took shape in my mind as a study on world empires.. I found it interesting that the two studies intersected:
Isaiah 9:6 KJ - "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
"government" = H4951
משׂרה
miśrâh
mis-raw'
From H8280; empire
The empire shall be the Lord's... "savior of the world"
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study aids - http://studybible.info/strongs/ and https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/ (multiple version)
and the program ISA3 (interlinear) - http://www.scripture4all.org/download/download_ISA3.php
well,Marie...I been in a study on a dream revelation..over omega final Pey/last 800..and I'm not sure what it is all about yet,either.
alpha =0ne /first [1} omega = last/8oo/end..mine has to do with the old man dying and the inheritance of the house originally.
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Hmmm, how interesting! You're studying on omega, last, and my of alph, first. Yep He sure is first and last, alpha and omega and all between!
You have me thinking now.. and wondering. I'm sure I will be pondering omega and hope you share whatever you learn about it! :gsmile: :dsunny:
I'm wondering, what is pey/800? I thought it might come up in the greek..
i just had to check out the greek -
"last" G2078
LSJ Gloss:
ἔσχατος
outermost
Dodson:
ἔσχατος
last, at the last, finally
last, at the last, finally, till the end.
Strong's:
ἔσχατος
farthest, final (of place or time)
Derivation: a superlative probably from G2192 (in the sense of contiguity);
KJV Usage: ends of, last, latter end, lowest, uttermost.
G2192
Thayer:
1) extreme
1a) last in time or in place
1b) last in a series of places
1c) last in a temporal succession
2) the last
2a) last, referring to time
2b) of space, the uttermost part, the end, of the earth
2c) of rank, grade of worth, last i.e. lowest
Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words
End, Ending
Last
Lower (Adjective, and Verb, to make), Lowest
Part (Noun, a portion; Verb, to give or divide, partake)
ἔσχατος
eschatos
es'-khat-os
A superlative probably from G2192 (in the sense of contiguity); farthest, final (of place or time)
KJV Usage: ends of, last, latter end, lowest, uttermost.
-- http://studybible.info/strongs/G2078
"omega" G5598
LSJ Gloss:
Ω
great
Dodson:
Ὦ
omega
omega, the last letter of the Greek alphabet.
Strong's:
Ω
the last letter of the Greek alphabet, i.e. (figuratively) the finality
KJV Usage: Omega.
Thayer:
1) the last letter in the Greek alphabet
2) the last
Ω
Ō
o'-meg-ah
The last letter of the Greek alphabet, that is, (figuratively) the finality
-- http://studybible.info/strongs/G5598
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:Chinscratch: final destination.. old man dying.. inheritance.. :dsunny: :dsunny:
I find it no coincidence that just before I even knew this thread was here and read this, He showed me something about Himself .....
When it comes to the Father and His wisdom, it is not a perspective that He has more wisdom than us, for if we are in Christ, all things belong to us, including all the wisdom of the Father, (all His wisdom belongs to us just not all of it has been revealed to us) but it is seeing the Father as "the First One" who had this wisdom
When the truth is revealed to us, it is no longer His Word ruling "over" us, but "alongside" us, "with" us, it is understanding first in line, (on the same level) rather than first in command which relates to subordinates (which relates to above and below).
It is the understanding the difference between being just a servant, and being "A Son" who also is a servant
:cloud9: Good stuff guys, really good. :banana: :thumbsup:
Just a comment to tie in with yours Sheila....Years ago He told me that because we were one with Him from the foundation of the world as the body and the Head are one = Alpha. He added that the Omega being the same, THIS body is where He will have a place to lay His head, and will be revealed HERE in this realm, that eventually He will be all IN all, both above and below. He IS, the remnant within the remnant. Blessings...
I love you all and thank you all for sharing these things openly and not just keeping them hidden in your heart , this obedience to love God first and love one another as yourself , shows us all Gods great grace and mercy on us all and reveals those things ..
Dear Sister Marie , you and some others have really helped in your posting , and the Holy Spirit of truth witness to bring many things along that was confusing to me for so many many years
Tony / aka Whitewings behind the scenes has been an excellent blessing and Shelia our talks on the phone , all those things have helped sooooo much along the way and some of the new ones and the old ones , as Gods vessels and am one also here for His purpose
This is long but an attempt to share what has been in my heart but never could get out properly , as you know God made me weak in ability to be crystal clear
and my prayers to Him for help , knowing that prayers are the best weapon in the shield of faith against SPIRITUAL WARFARE ,,
We all well know that it is not flesh and blood that wars with the SPIRIT OF TRUTH but those evil spirits in men that are earth bound , being sensual and run on their own appetites devouring anyone who gets in their way and devilish the offspring of the serpent in the garden [carnal beastly wisdom below ]
This is the attempt to make the scriptures WORD OF GOD SPEAK for themselves as the Holy Spirit of truth bears WITNESS to them ..
We have the WORDS OF JESUS CHRIST that are critical information when he said ''Are their not 12 hours in a DAY , this was very IMPORTANT to hear it right 9Jesus answered, "Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world. 10"But if anyone walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him."...
These hours are the DAY and children of the DAY JESUS CHRIST IS THE DAY , THAT DAY and those hours are being fulfilled in us
The hour HAS COME glorify your son .. THE DAY IS RISEN AND IS WORKING OUR LIGHT FOR ALL TO SEE HIM IN ,, the hour will come when no man can work
John 171Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You, 2 even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life....
Another critical point , that we can see
Jesus Heals the Man Born Blind
...3Jesus answered, "It was neither that this man sinned, nor his parents; but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4"We must work the works of Him who sent Me as long as it is day; night is coming when no one can work. 5"While I am in the world, I am the Light of the world."...
What was Jesus meaning While I am in the world I am the Light of the WORLD and the night would come ? we see by this hour the hour of darkness
just who and what hour of darkness was !!! can we see in the dark ???Jesus' Betrayal and Arrest
...52Then Jesus said to the chief priests and officers of the temple and elders who had come against Him, "Have you come out with swords and clubs as you would against a robber? 53"While I was with you daily in the temple, you did not lay hands on Me;
but this hour and the power of darkness are yours."
This has such a powerful meaning !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are we like them ? Was we one of them ? were we under them for a time ? Did we also experience the hour of darkness and the LIGHT HAS COME and shined like the Daystar in our darkened hearts like a tomb of death holding us ,
till Jesus come and set us free ????
We can see this play out in these very scriptures
This HOUR , LAST HOUR , IS DETERMINED IN REVELATION
And by the words of our brothers as witnesses and not to worship them nor any angel [ messenger with the message ] BUT WORSHIP GOD in the Spirit and truth !
JESUS DIED for our sins and lays His Life down only to take it back up AGAIN and done this willingly BECAUSE HE IS THE LOVE OF GOD EXPRESSED FULLY
last hour Jesus told us and also 2John here Beware of Antichrists
18Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us....
Babylon one hour Lament over Babylon
9"And the kings of the earth, who committed acts of immorality and lived sensuously with her, will weep and lament over her when they see the smoke of her burning, 10standing at a distance because of the fear of her torment, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For in one hour your judgment has come.' 11"And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their cargoes any more--
The Mystery Explained
...11"The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction. 12"The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. 13"These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast.
rev3 Message to the Church in Philadelphia[brotherly love ]
...9
Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie[denying Jesus Christ the WORD IN THE HOUR ] -- I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you. 10
Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11'I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
Crown is the crown of Life , Let no man take away your peace in JESUS nor joy nor LOVE , that love is most precious as your faith in HIS desire to save you from the hour of darkness as the kings of the earth rule under satan's power , this short work JESUS will make a short work of it in righteousness
We see something in this here
When satan propositioned JESUS CHRIST with all the kingdoms of the world , because this was important to openly show it ... But than was Satan rebuked by the WORD OF GOD SPEAKING openly even to us now ..
This wisdom and dominion of power was temporary and carnally run as possession and position
Remember Paul stating you have reigned as kings without us ? 1 COR Do Not Be Proud
...7For who regards you as superior? What do you have that you did not receive?
And if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? 8You are already filled, you have already become rich, you have become kings without us; and indeed, I wish that you had become kings so that we also might reign with you.
9For, I think, God has exhibited us apostles last of all, as men condemned to death;
because we have become a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men....
Kings of the earth are those whom think they are rich and have need of nothing , But Jesus warns the Last DAY CHURCH in Rev 3 that how much they lack being lukewarm and content with what they have already and did not buy the gold /truth tried in the fire that they might be rich and clothed in Him / covered in the grace of God and blind still
They were content with earthly things and riches and wisdom by operating on the carnal mind whom has domain as God gave Adam to fill the earth with these offspring , and needing to be born again of the Spirit of God and not the spirit of mankind that is equal to animal like mentality that only love their own , or not , a male lion will kill the offspring of another male lion for dominance in hierarchy over the females and the clan , what advantage does man have over the beast in that aspect and thinking ?
When Jesus Christ / Our Word of God rebuked satan Matt 4 and Luke 4 All these kingdoms and kings and rulers and princes that come to take the positions and have them filled and bow down to them , so stubborn and prideful not wanting to give up what they have and what God gave them in the first place !!
satan did not want to loose his possessions and position over the land /earth , even we see a glimpse of Peter and satan adversary , not wanting to let JESUS go to the CROSS and set mankind free , He wanted to keep Jesus / the Word of God in the earth and with these and Jesus rebuked him saying you are not mindful / tasting the things that be of God , but that that be of men , , that tasting was the tree of knowledge of good and evil , not the tree of Life that frees us all from the binding of earthly knowledge and wisdom and keeps us from our true nature that is born again from above in Jesus Christ the WORD MADE FLESH ,,,,
This is not like some can write so fluidly , but I was going to burst with joy over pondering these treasures, some of ''all things ''. that might help others better , or not .
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Amen, Rose, in all these things.. upon Earth.. past, present or future.. no reason, ever, to lose / let go of our peace.. His peace which passes all (worldly) understanding.. "And if all these things - of the world - are disappearing" why let them ever lessen our peace in Him.. :thumbsup: :girlheart:
Amen, Jugghead and Cardinal! We are very blessed.. His yoke is easy, His burden is light"... We pick up the cross but He carries it! :mshock:
..never thought of that before! thanks.. :smile:
:cloud9: Amen Rose.....this is what we're supposed to do, sharing out the abundance of our hearts, whatsoever He has brought to our remembrance, Amen? :HeartThrob:
Quote from: Cardinal on February 01, 2016, 06:55:33 AM
:cloud9: Amen Rose.....this is what we're supposed to do, sharing out the abundance of our hearts, whatsoever He has brought to our remembrance, Amen? :HeartThrob:
AMEN !! I am convinced that some are holding the Very testimony of Jesus Christ in their bosom , and it is the Spirit of prophecy !!
Paul wanted everyone to have this gift [ grace of God Jesus Christ testimony as He had been given by the Lord Himself ] the very Spirit of Prophecy working in their hearts and speaking the Father's WORDS in their proper times and place ,,,,, :HeartThrob: