Moving on to "How" reconciliation is accomplished

[donken]

Hello.   I am in this forum because the reconciliation of all mankind is already believed and accepted by most if not all on this site, I assume.  We are in a time when we need to move on to maturity in Christ and it is available to day but we also must participate in learning and walking in that maturity.  I am not aware of what many people on this forum believe beyond universal salvation of all so if I share some things that are common knowledge please forgive me.  I am not going to read all post headings on the forum, at least not now.   I am a Canadian living on the west coast.  I know\believe we are now coming into the time of the judgment that must begin at the house of God.  This judgment is for God to give us understanding in us by revealing His wisdom to us and that wisdom will become our own wisdom, and then we have "judgment", meaning discernment and understanding of many, many things that are presently veiled to us because of the times of the past.  Today is "the day".  I would like to share something about who or what is the devil, using scripture. 
We know that the scripture tells us that Jesus destroyed "the enmity" that was in him through his witness of life and death in Israel.

The word enmity means among other things, contradiction or contradictory.  In other words, we can understand this to mean the two contradictory desires {lusts} that are in man.  The lust of the spirit and the lust of the flesh, or... good and evil desires and results.  They both bring about results in the world that differ one from another.  These two actions and the desires and mind that produce these results that are contrary to one another both work in us at times.  If we are honest we know they are IN us. They are what make mankind the actual existing witness of the parable of the tree of good and evil. We understand man has very commonly and naturally believed God to be like man is, doing both good and evil things to man in the world.  This has been the common belief through all the history of mankind, no matter what god or gods they gave names to and believed in and followed.

Timothy tells us to rightly divide the word of truth.  There is a truth about good and it's source, and there is a truth about evil and it's source, but they are not the same spirit\nature or mindset.  Galatians tells us where this enmity Jesus destroyed existed as he made of HIMSELF one new man. It naturally exists  In the first man we all are at birth, natural Adam.  The lust of the flesh desires against the lust or desires of the Spirit of God.  We know that the scripture tells us that the carnal mind is "enmity" with the law or Spirit of God.  The law of God is His nature, the divine nature mentioned as who we are to partake of in Second Peter.

But the carnal mind is not "the source" of the enmity.  The carnal mind is based upon something else that exists "before" the mind that is carnally based and founded is formed in one.  The world also witnesses the results of both good and evil deeds by man, nature, and it's existence in general.  The lusts of the flesh and the seed of God's goodness that are both naturally in all humans at their natural birth is the source of the carnal mind.  The body is carnal and the Spirit is life, and we dwell in and by both at birth.   The spirit of life in all people is the source of the seed of God.      We know that all people naturally have both good and not good desires, often not recognizing that the not good desires are really "not good".   Moses' and the prophets ministry and belief was based upon the experiences or "spirit" of the world they were and lived in and by.  Good and evil as if God were both.    That is why 2 Corinthians 3:6 tells us our ministry is to be of the spirit that GIVES life and not of the understanding of the letter that speaks about physical death and sorrow and destruction that is of our worldly existence and experience.  It says that Moses' ministry is to be "abolished".  As we know Christianity as a whole has not yet done this in their doctrines and understanding of Christ.

To see and understand scripture entirely from the Spirit that GIVES life is the single of eye understanding that makes that eye {understanding} full of light.
If there is darkness included in our eyesight {understanding and belief} about what God  is like, then the whole body is STILL full of darkness {ignorance, a lack of true spiritual understanding}.  But we know that same light is to be for all and TODAY IS THE DAY of this lightning that will shine from the east to the west as a parable in the scripture tells us the coming of the SON will be like.  This is the beginning of the noticeable flood of the Spirit of God upon the earth. This is the time when God's Spirit shall be poured out upon ALL FLESH, including the animals.  So, as this occurs line upon line where shall the "evil doing" reside as it shrinks to nothing?  We first must spiritually identify the source of enmity and what it really is in order to begin seeing by "the light of the world", the Spirit of God in Jesus Christ.   There is a 20 page attachment here.  I say 20 pages so you know before you upload it if you are interested.    thanks, donken



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[jasman]

Hi donken,

Interesting first post...  It's good that you are here, and sharing your thoughts.  I will try to read your document when I have some time.  May God bless you richly as you dig deeper into his Word and share and explore here.

[donken]

Hi.  Thank you for your reply.    Here is a thought on how close to the resurrection we are.   In Hebrews Paul says that Levi is credited with paying tithes to Melchisedek while still unborn but being in the loins of Abraham.  That means that all physical children born of Abraham personally and all children that are born to anyone in the lineage of Abraham, including Ishmael and all his children, and the children of the wives Abraham had after Sarah died are included as paying tithes while in the loins of Abraham.   Because of that statement, we can also say that all people were given the promise of life from God when Adam was given that promise simply by being made alive.  All were in the loins of Adam, we can say, and all are in the promise "when" the maturity of Jesus becomes fulfilled in the world.  The gifts and calling of God are without repentance we are told in Romans.  And, we also read that the gift of life can not and will not be disannulled because of death in the mean time.  Death continues to happen to our body until eternal life is established in man in the creation as Jesus Christ.   When we begin to believe that all people are going to be "saved", just as we are, then we are spiritually saying that all people are bone of our bone and flesh of our flesh and we are becoming the awakened MAN.  That second man, the Lord FROM Heaven, is said to be a quickening SPIRIT. 
What is happening here in the creation at this time is that Jesus Christ, a spiritual maturity in God within mankind, is being SENT and resurrected or raised up in us as the divine nature of God.  God's nature is to become our nature, through the binding of the tares in us.  As scripture say, bind FIRST the tares.   The woman is natural Adam, who is quite naturally deceived about God simply because in that natural state every one of us are the spirit of man and do not know the things of the Spirit of God.  1 Corinthians 2.  But the spiritual man receives all things and is not discerned by the natural man because the things of the Spirit of God and His wisdom are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED.  In other words, the natural man, not being yet spiritually mature internally, does not know them because he can not know them.   This is just like a human baby and child CAN NOT know the things of an adult and the adult things of the world while still a child.  But, the adult maturity is resurrected in the child, spiritually speaking.  The child is born full of darkness. {ignorance, natural ignorance thus filled with "darkness" we can say.  It is out of this kind of darkness {human ignorance about Godly things} that all the beliefs about demons and devils and witches and vampires and so on arise.  They "only inhabit the dark places of Babylon, confusion}
So, carnal man, not being able to know the things of the mature Son of God, is the spiritual woman that is naturally deceived.  Thus, in that state man does not know what he is doing and is forgiven, actually not even accused by God.  It IS the HOUSE OF GOD that the judgment {wisdom} of God MUST begin.  Why.  Because God can only deal and give HIS INCREASE in one to the "seeing", meaning the understanding, the propter understanding.  Today we need to know what God desire of us, at least of those who are more elderly and have some idea of what the spirit of the world is like when it is separated.  We have to be in agreement with God and what He is going to do so we can walk as TWO together.  First comes the "seeing", and we step in what we see.  As we walk in that grace to all and actually grow in the righteousness of God in Peace we will find further steps.  As Jesus is reported to say, if a person keeps MY WORDS they shall never die.  The spiritual marriage consists of the flesh as the woman and the Spirit of God as the husband spiritually, and the agreeing and joining of these two as the spiritual marriage will finally become ONE FLESH as THE SON, Jesus Christ.  Every one is to become Jesus.  As scripture says, ALL the promises of God are yea and amen IN {as} Christ Jesus.   God bless.  Ken