Finally a forum that doesn't ban Universalism talk

Started by beartheweak, March 09, 2013, 06:56:14 AM

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beartheweak

Two forums that I either did join or almost joined are (according to their rules) against any posts that favor Universal Reconciliation. So glad to find a forum that seems more open to discussing this.

I will admit that I am not fully convinced yet to believe in UR. Although, eternal Hell has been becoming more and more of a myth to me in the last few weeks.

I have made it my goal to see if I can become fully convinced in UR. There is just the little bit that makes me hesitant because of all the indoctrination I have received about eternal Hell. I'm scared, but becoming more and more relieved.

God Bless you guys for offering such a wonderful place to share thoughts on this freeing doctrine. I'm glad this site has so much user traction too!

Deena

Bear, I can relare to the fear of letting go of doctrine you have lived by as "truth".  It is a little like letting go of the handlebars and see what happens. For me, it was a process coming to accept UR. I kept wrestling with the question, what if I am wrong? But as those pillars of "doctrine" began to fall, the good news made my heart leap for joy that God really is good and does love His creation. I used to think He was irritated and peeved that He had to send His Son to rescue us-- like He thought we were so stupid that He had no other choice. Thank God that I no longer think that. I now have a God I can brag about because, yes, He is that good. Welcome.

ded2daworld

Not only do we welcome discussion of UR, it is semi-required :laugh: since the whole forum is dedicated to the discussion of it. We do get off on tangents once in a while.

IMO, There is ONE statement from ET'ers that is designed for the sole purpose of "keeping people from straying from the "faith in a   the ET God- here it is:(ET person speaking to a UR person)
'If You're right, in the end. we'll both live happily ever after with God, But if I'm right I'll be fine but you will burn in hell
for all of eternity."

My final answer: IF God is the sadistic, psychotic, hateful God that is no different than all the pagan Gods worshiped, rather than the loving, merciful, God of grace and peace I see in Jesus, I'd rather burn in hell than live with that evil God. :2c:

Lazarus Short

Quote from: ded2daworld on March 09, 2013, 03:14:51 PM

My final answer: IF God is the sadistic, psychotic, hateful God that is no different than all the pagan Gods worshiped, rather than the loving, merciful, God of grace and peace I see in Jesus, I'd rather burn in hell than live with that evil God. :2c:

A lot of the skeptics and scoffers over at abovetopsecret (where I do a lot of UR promotion) say just that.  They see the spiritual glitch more clearly than most Christians.  For that reason, I see my time as an atheist as a blessing, in part. 

Anyway, beartheweak, welcome, and I'm glad that you found your way here! :friendstu:
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

lomarah

Welcome beartheweak! I hope you are blessed here as you stop in on your journey.

And I agree with you ded... I would never want to live in "heaven" while my loved ones are burning in "hell". Thank God that doctrine is going to Gehenna.  :LH:

VineBranch

Quote from: lomarah on March 09, 2013, 06:11:36 PM
Thank God that doctrine is going to Gehenna.  :LH:

I hope it goes quickly.  You might say I wish it were hell bent for leather.

Hey beartheweak  I'ld like to apologize in advance for everything I will do or say while you are here.  I am weak, please bear with me.  Bearing can be such a grizzly state of affairs don't you agree?  Hale fellow well met.

Lazarus Short

Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

ded2daworld

It's not like he used her as a quipping post just to be punny. :Peace2:

Lazarus Short

"Quipping post" - I'll have to remember that one!  Oh noes - now I have to "post" this... :doh:
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

VineBranch

Quote from: ded2daworld on March 10, 2013, 01:44:38 AM
It's not like he used her as a quipping post just to be punny. :Peace2:

That has seriously redefined hilarious for me:  thanks.

mplsfitter539

   beartheweak welcome!
I have no doubt that you will become fully convinced that UR is the true gospel. Unlike you when I began studying UR I was trying to prove that it was flawed or flat out wrong. Guess what happened.........I become 100% convinced of UR.
Shema O Israel, Yahweh our Elohim is Yahweh echad!!!

marie glen

Greetings! :smile: and peace and blessings..  :dsunny:
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