Hello Tentmaker

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What a great thread to read! I could never get myself to believe in the Et gospel (I.e. "good" news / glad tidings for all.. what an oxymoron Et is!)

Found / was brought to God not in a church but in the Rocky Mountains. UR, I believe, makes us happier and happier all the time.. Even on a challenging day or during hard time's, the peace and joy underlies everything and just keeps growing.

One of my thoughts has always been how I'm the world can a believer be happy (joyful) like the Lord day's, our joy full, of most folks we know and 3/4's of humanity is going to perish, or  :eek: :eek: be consciously tormented for ever and ever?! I mean really. WheRe is the logic in thAt!? It's crazy talk, plain and simple.

God bless ya'all! He loves you! :HeartThrob:

I read your story somewhere else on the forums regarding your conversion (Rocky Mountain experience) thanks for sharing that.
The thought that always makes me smile is when someone wrongs me...and I think of them 'restored' at some point in the future.  The whole of creation being 'restored' is what I'm about...It 'seems' impossible...But it isn't for the One that made all this in the first place.
I passed through a 'deer farm' the other day and saw hundreds of deer.  They all stood and watched me...Such majestic creatures...But my thoughts were on where they would end up.  Their antlers would be sold, their furs sold, their meat sold...on top of this most would probably be sold to hunters for 'game'... some idiot in the future would be chasing these beautiful things through a forest trying to kill them with a gun.

...Yeah creation restored is my thing...

Hmm, I ought to point out that the according to the Bible the first death on Earth was whatever animal or animals God killed in order to skin and provide covering for Adam and Eve. The next deaths recorded in the Bible were all those He drowned because one species, man was wicked. Cruelty to animals is very bad and can tend to precede cruelty to humans but I'm a little concerned about the moral platform some of us can put animals on when a lot of animal deaths listed both in the Bible and seen in nature  seem in someway down to God.

Lions and cheetahs kill and eat gazelle, which are like dear, for their food and we take this as OK because they can't do otherwise and we shouldn't because we can. But God could have made it otherwise and didn't and there's a line of thought that says that Biblically we didn't until God said we could, although providing things from absence is pretty much impossible.

[jugghead]

All are a part of the whole ... in which ... the whole ... is contained in the part (even though it has not yet been revealed) ... and to think any part is of less value than another ... then we can become of less value to the whole
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All are a part of the whole ... in which ... the whole ... is contained in the part (even though it has not yet been revealed) ... and to think any part is of less value than another ... then we can become of less value to the whole
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I really liked that

[MusicLover123]

1Co 12:1  Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 
1Co 12:2  Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. 
1Co 12:3  Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 
1Co 12:4  Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 
1Co 12:5  And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 
1Co 12:6  And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 
1Co 12:7  But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 
1Co 12:8  For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 
1Co 12:9  To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 
1Co 12:10  To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 
1Co 12:11  But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 
1Co 12:12  For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 
1Co 12:13  For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 
1Co 12:14  For the body is not one member, but many. 
1Co 12:15  If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 
1Co 12:16  And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 
1Co 12:17  If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 
1Co 12:18  But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 
1Co 12:19  And if they were all one member, where were the body? 
1Co 12:20  But now are they many members, yet but one body. 
1Co 12:21  And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. 
1Co 12:22  Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: 
1Co 12:23  And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. 
1Co 12:24  For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: 
1Co 12:25  That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 
1Co 12:26  And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. 
1Co 12:27  Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. 
1Co 12:28  And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 
1Co 12:29  Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 
1Co 12:30  Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? 
1Co 12:31  But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way. 

Was also thinking, if all of us are stones built up for the house of God, if any one of them falls, there will be an obvious absence. Ever seen a house with holes in it? Quite obvious, right?