Two view of scripture: Believe it, or not!

[jbertonbounds]

There are so many scriptures that say and imply that all people will eventually be saved.
There are so many believers who don't believe all the scriptures - just the ones in line with their church doctrines.
This PDF contains the beliefs of URists vs Mass Christianity about many of the "all will be saved" scriptures.

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[Lazarus Short]

Yes, if eternal torture or destruction were true, the Holy Bible would read very differently.  I think I see exclusionistic thinking, while I like to think the UR group think inclusionisticaly.

[Tom]

Right, it helps to have an accurate translation to know the real story of scripture that God's ultimate plan is to be "all in all" (1 Corinthians 15:28).

[Lazarus Short]

It's just too bad that "All in all" zips by so quickly.  Maybe those three words could be given their own page. :declare:

[rosered]

It's just too bad that "All in all" zips by so quickly.  Maybe those three words could be given their own page. :declare:

  OR AT LEAST     these 8 verses their own chapter   :thumbsup:


20But now The Messiah is risen from among the dead and is the first fruits of those who sleep.


21Just as by a man death came, in this way also by a man the dead come to life.

22For just as by Adam all people die, in this way also by The Messiah they all live;


23Each person in his order; The Messiah was the first fruits; after this, those who are The Messiah's at his arrival.


24And then the end will come, when he will deliver The Kingdom to God The Father, when he will destroy every Ruler and every Authority and all Powers.

25For he is going to reign until all his enemies will be set under his feet,


26And the last enemy death shall be destroyed.


27For he brought all things to submission under his feet.

But when it says, "All things are subjected to him", it is understood that it excludes him who subjected all things to him.


28And when all is subjected to him, then the Son shall be subject to him who subjected all things to him, that God might be all in all.

and Hebrews  2    6But as The Scripture* testifies and says, "What is a man, that you remember him, and the son of man that you care for him?"

7"You have brought him a little lower than The Angels. You have placed glory and honor on his head and you have authorized him over the works of your hands."

8"You have subjected all things under his feet." But by this, that He subjected everything to him, it does not leave anything which is not subjected; but now, we do not yet see that everything is subjected to him.

9*But we see that he is Yeshua, who became a little lower than the Angels for the suffering of his death, and glory and honor are placed upon his head, for God himself, by his grace, tasted death in the place of every person.

10For it was fitting for him by whom are all things and for whom are all things, and bringing many children into the glory, that The Prince of their life would perfect himself by his suffering. 11For he who makes holy and they who are made holy are all of one; therefore, he is not ashamed to call them his brothers,

12When he said, "I shall announce your name to my brethren and within the church I shall glorify you."

13And again, "I will trust in him", and again, "Behold, I and the children whom God has given me."

[eaglesway]

According to ET & ED theology, the many verses that speak of Jesus "filling all things", "gathering all things into one in Christ", "reconciling all things to Himself by the blood of His cross,", "subjecting every adversary", "reigning until every enemy is a footstool for His feet", "making all things new", "inheriting all things", '"setting the creation free from futility" and "restoring all things" have an unjustified exclusion in them-"except for the multitudes that go to their graves in this life stuck in any kind of deception or wickedness". Even to the point where many, many Christians believe many other Christians who fell short of the overcomers crown will also "go to hell" forever.

They have to deny about 15 verses that plainly declare the restoration of all in order to justify 4 or 5 mistranslated verses.

It is tragic that this representation of the cross of Christ, the divine nature and the Creator- is the primary representation given to the world- a false testimony devoid of the prophetic spirit.

[jbertonbounds]

According to ET & ED theology, the many verses that speak of Jesus "filling all things", "gathering all things into one in Christ", "reconciling all things to Himself by the blood of His cross,", "subjecting every adversary", "reigning until every enemy is a footstool for His feet", "making all things new", "inheriting all things", '"setting the creation free from futility" and "restoring all things" have an unjustified exclusion in them-"except for the multitudes that go to their graves in this life stuck in any kind of deception or wickedness". Even to the point where many, many Christians believe many other Christians who fell short of the overcomers crown will also "go to hell" forever.

They have to deny about 15 verses that plainly declare the restoration of all in order to justify 4 or 5 mistranslated verses.

It is tragic that this representation of the cross of Christ, the divine nature and the Creator- is the primary representation given to the world- a false testimony devoid of the prophetic spirit.

:thumbsup:

[sheila]

yep...Christianswith twohorns like a lamb..but speak as a dragon....they deny the power of His cross...the atoning blood for all

  men to become reconciled. They deny the judgement of God..that as all men have bore the image of the corrupt one....

    so,too,shall they all bear the image of the incorrupt one.

   they deny the Lamb that takes all the sin of the world away...and place it squarely back onto the redeemeds back.