Easter good news

[ded2daworld]

Reading an article in a totally different subject area, the author is a Christian and I won't repeat the article but one of his last lines was:

"By now, as you read these words (big thanks for sticking around, btw) Easter has gone and we've moved on. But that's the thing: Easter is here for good. That's the good news... for those who believe it.

I like Dave (the author) but he makes the same mistake ECT'ers make. He tells the good news but says it's only good news for those that believe it, rather than what the Bible says which is that it is Good News for ALL... believe it or not! :Peace2:

[sheila]

 :iagree:   HE LIVES!!! nd because of that   ALL MEN SHALL LIVE !!

[marie glen]

Amen! ..and Quote: "Good News for ALL..." ...and this day, good tidings unto all men.. Something we likely hear every Christmas!

[mplsfitter539]

Easter is a pagan holiday honoring the Queen of Heaven goddess Ishtar; not a Christian Holy Day. I beg to differ with the author because easter will not be acknowledged in the kingdom of God. There will be no pagan holy days under the reign and rule of Jesus Christ.  :banana:

[lomarah]

I think he more meant the fact that Christ has risen rather than the celebration of the easter holiday.  To many that is what easter represents, even though in truth it was set up by men under pagan influence. Until that fact is realized it remains the symbol and celebration of the risen Christ to them. To the pure all things are pure. He knows the heart of each one. All things will be revealed in time.  :HeartThrob:

[sheila]

 :iagree:  Isaaih 23;17   ...she will return to her hire as a prostitute and will ply her trade with

   all the kingdoms on the face of the earth. Yet her profits and her earning will be set aside

   for the Lord; they will not be stored up or hoarded. Her profits will go to those who

  live before the Lord,for abundnt food and fine clothes.

    He is Risen, He lives..and because He lives,we shall all live.

   thus the world fame of the easter celebration, wrought of the adulteress that fornicated

  in no way nullify's the abundance of the Lord..spirit without measure and clothed in Christ

       further scriptures   Psalm 45;12   the daughter of Tyre will come with a gift.......

[ded2daworld]

seems "pagan Holy Day" is an oxymoron.

[mplsfitter539]

seems "pagan Holy Day" is an oxymoron.

I agree but that is what the word "holiday" (holy day) means. Holy just means set apart and pagans have many days set apart from the others especially Sunday which is observed around the world as "the day of the Lord". Sunday is the most pagan of all because it usurped the weekly Sabbath which was established at creation. The Catholic church changed the day of observance to Sunday without the authority of God and they even admit it. Therefore x-mas, easter, and Sunday observance are all pagan holy days and it matters not when Christians observe or celebrate them and call them holy days to our Lord. This is part of the ignorance of Christianity. We tend to think we can do what ever we want as long as we say we are doing it for God but IMO God expects us to investigate what we observe and believe and make sure that we are not being duped by the prevalent pagan influences that surround us. This is not to say that God will not forgive us for this but I personally prefer to obey God instead of following all the pagans and then asking for forgiveness for doing so.

[sheila]

well,they accused Jesus of being a Sabbath breaker,also.  He said,My Fther continues working

and so do I. [is it lawful to kill or to heal on the sabbath?]

   

    There  remins then,a Sabbath rest for the people of God..for anyone who enters God's

rest,also rests from any work of his own.[true Sabbath=resting in the finished work of God

  = it is finished...the work of the salvation of all men accomplished on the cross that day

[bushy]

I agree but that is what the word "holiday" (holy day) means. Holy just means set apart and pagans have many days set apart from the others especially Sunday which is observed around the world as "the day of the Lord". Sunday is the most pagan of all because it usurped the weekly Sabbath which was established at creation. The Catholic church changed the day of observance to Sunday without the authority of God and they even admit it. Therefore x-mas, easter, and Sunday observance are all pagan holy days and it matters not when Christians observe or celebrate them and call them holy days to our Lord. This is part of the ignorance of Christianity. We tend to think we can do what ever we want as long as we say we are doing it for God but IMO God expects us to investigate what we observe and believe and make sure that we are not being duped by the prevalent pagan influences that surround us. This is not to say that God will not forgive us for this but I personally prefer to obey God instead of following all the pagans and then asking for forgiveness for doing so.

Seventh Day Adventists believe in observing the Sabbath so they have church on Saturday instead of Sunday. Big deal. The Sabbath is not about going to church. But we all do things trying to please God but not understanding what He wants and so have a lot of things confused. But I agree with Lomorah that God looks at the heart and is not that concerned about these things we do. He knows our understanding is not clear since we see through a glass darkly.

[redhotmagma]

Every day is my sabbath. Sheila  :thumbsup:

[mplsfitter539]

I agree but that is what the word "holiday" (holy day) means. Holy just means set apart and pagans have many days set apart from the others especially Sunday which is observed around the world as "the day of the Lord". Sunday is the most pagan of all because it usurped the weekly Sabbath which was established at creation. The Catholic church changed the day of observance to Sunday without the authority of God and they even admit it. Therefore x-mas, easter, and Sunday observance are all pagan holy days and it matters not when Christians observe or celebrate them and call them holy days to our Lord. This is part of the ignorance of Christianity. We tend to think we can do what ever we want as long as we say we are doing it for God but IMO God expects us to investigate what we observe and believe and make sure that we are not being duped by the prevalent pagan influences that surround us. This is not to say that God will not forgive us for this but I personally prefer to obey God instead of following all the pagans and then asking for forgiveness for doing so.

Seventh Day Adventists believe in observing the Sabbath so they have church on Saturday instead of Sunday. Big deal. The Sabbath is not about going to church. But we all do things trying to please God but not understanding what He wants and so have a lot of things confused. But I agree with Lomorah that God looks at the heart and is not that concerned about these things we do. He knows our understanding is not clear since we see through a glass darkly.

The day that an individual chooses to worship corporately has nothing to do with the Sabbath (I think we at least agree on that point). The point could be made better with examples such as x-mas or easter (Ishtar). Observing pagan holidays and calling them Christian holy days when the bible clearly does not back this assumption is the point. As Christians we are told to search the scriptures like the Bereans 
Acts 17
11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Prove what you believe with scripture then you won't "have a lot of things confused"(in your words). For instance if you are confused about x-mas read Jeremiah 10. Look into things instead of following the crowd. Investigate the pagan roots of easter and then decide if you want to follow God or follow the masses. Lemmings follow each other off cliffs, don't be a lemming. :banana:

[sheila]

having canceled the written code,with it's regulations,that was against us and tht stood opposed to us

   therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink[peeps] oR with regard to a religious

  festival,a new moon celebration or a sbbath day........


    THESE WERE A SHADOW OF THE THINGS THAT WERE TO COME.........

    THE REALITY,HOWEVER IS FOUND IN CHRIST!!!!!!!!


   Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world,why,as though you still belonged to it

   do you submit to it's rules.  DO NOT HANDLE! DO NOT TASTE,DO NOT TOUCH!

  THESE ARE DESTINED TO PERISH WITH USE<BECAUSE THEY ARE BSED ON HUMAN COMMANDS

  AND TEACHINGS.   Such regulations indeed have n appearnce of wisdom,with their self-imposed

worship,their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body,but they lack any value in restraining

sensual indulgenCE.

    i WAS IN JEHOVAH'S WITTNESS..AND KNOW THE HARDSHIP OF THESE THINGS....

  MY HUSBAND WASN'T A MEMBER..AND HE WANTED THANKSGIVING MEAL WITH ALL THE TRIMMINGS

...THEIR SOLUTION? COOKIT BUT EAT IT IN ANOTHER ROOM..NOT WITH HIM AS A FAMILY.........


  CRAZINESS!!!!!!!!!!

     i WILL NOT LET ANY RELIGIOUS SPIRIT PUT ME THROUGH WHAT THEY DID........AGAIN.

   NO BIRTHDAYS,MOTHER'S DAY,fATHER'S DAY,X-MAS,ANYTHING.GOD HAD MNY FESTIVALS ORDAINED

FOR HIS PEOPLE..TO REJOICE BEFORE HIM..AS FAMILIES....ALL THEY DID WAS ALIENATE ME FROM

MY FAMILY MEMBERS.

    i DO NOT KNOW iSHTAR.....i DO NOT WORSHIP iSHTAR..BUT IF I WANT TO EAT A PEEP I WILL

   AND ANYONE WHO CONDEMNS ME FOR IT..CAN TAKE IT UP WITH HIM


  NOW, WINDCHIMES  EVIL.....UNICORN EMBLEM ON PURSE EVIL..FLEUR DE LIS..EVIL

SCOOBY DOO EVIL..WEDDING RING=EVIL PAGAN ORIGINS........CROSS=EVIL TAMMUZ[STAKE].

  LEGALISTIC 'WORKS' ORIENTATED WORSHIP....TO THE CLEAN ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN


   NOW N IDOL IS NOTHING..BUT CHRIST IS SOMETHING

 

[mplsfitter539]

    i DO NOT KNOW iSHTAR.....i DO NOT WORSHIP iSHTAR..BUT IF I WANT TO EAT A PEEP I WILL

 

I eat peeps also. You really should investigate easter (ishtar) since you say you don't know about it. Not knowing or understanding works well for 5 year old children but not mature adults. Be like a Berean and search for truth. I know its much harder to investigate things on your own but its better than blind faith. Your comment reminds me of the saying "ignorance is bliss".   

[sheila]

well I'm not ignoraant of it..jehovah's wittness did a good job of telling me why this nd that was unacceptable

coz 2000 plus years ago ignorant people did this or that.  eating ham is a sin now? because way back

someone was killed by a swine? not even a someone but some mythyological god type..

   they use to kill women for being withches coz they talked to their cats..what no black cats to be owned be-

caause of it.?   No windchimes because some people thousands of years ago usd them in some way

  associated with pagan worship.? no raisen biscuits iced  because of raisen cakes to the Queen of Heaven?


  look....they sacrifice on the mountain tops[so when in the mountins and looking at the spendour

of His creation..don't offer up aheartfelt praise of His goodness]  don't offer sacrifices of   gratitude

under a shade tree... Hosea 4;13...

  manna ws for that day only..if you kept it over to the next day..it bred worms...old law regulations was

for that time...try to use it today..and it is wormy.  I prefer the true bread from heaven and the new covenant

.....

[mplsfitter539]

sheila,
There are so many things wrong with your post I don't know where to begin. If everything you have learned about bible history is from the Jehovah's witnesses then again I can't stress enough about doing your own investigation. Before I leave this thread I do feel I need to clarify one of your misguided conclusions about eating pork.

Let's compare two translations of scripture:

    Mark 7:18 (NIV) "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'?
    Mark 7:19 (NIV) For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

    Mark 7:18 (KJV) And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
    Mark 7:19 (KJV) Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

Those two translations do not say the same thing. The King James does not have Jesus declaring all foods clean, in the biblical sense. It is saying all food passes through the body and is expelled. Jesus is not removing the prohibition on eating unclean animals. Modern translations like the NIV that say Jesus declared all foods clean are in error, and are intentionally mistranslated in order to justify eating the biblically unclean animals.

As far as the rest of your points I will not bother to address them, its just not worth the effort.

[lomarah]

So hubby was getting after me for laughing so darn loud... you and those peeps.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I almost sent you a pic the other day of a "peep" show bahahaha but I found it a bit distasteful so decided against it. But it reminded me of you and I cracked up hahaha. Ahhhh thanks for the laugh.  :LH:

Oh and a nice hearty amen to your posts of course.  :thumbsup:

[lomarah]

Ermmmm... Sheila answers to One Person... and it aint the religious spirit in you!  :thumbsup:

[mplsfitter539]

Ermmmm... Sheila answers to One Person... and it aint the religious spirit in you!  :thumbsup:

I don't have a religious spirit, I have the Holy Spirit :banana: :banana: :banana:

[lomarah]

I believe there were aboout five posts deleted from here. Sheila did you delete them?

[sheila]

no,but that is fine. The point was that if you use knowledge to look for evil to accuse and condemn other's

  you will find it. 

[sheila]

actually a google search of   Purim and coloured eggs..is very enlightening....

  associated with ESTER/Hadassah.

      ...if a son ask his father for an egg,he will not hand him a scorpion will he?

[jabcat]

I didn't delete any, and I haven't hear from any other mods about it...maybe someone deleted their own?



Edit - yep, there 5 posts in the recycle bin from this thread.  No one has claimed responsibility.  I do know that if I personally were deleting posts in this thread, I probably would not have gotten those, and instead would have grabbed a different one  :rolllol:

[lomarah]

 :iagree:  :thumbsup:  :declare:

[jabcat]

:iagree:  :thumbsup:  :declare:

I'm literally laughing out loud.  Don't get too cocky, friend.  You don't know what post I'm talking about.   hahahaha   :dsunny: :rolllol: :LH:  :friendstu: