Jesus not mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls?

[WhiteWings]

There seem to be mixed reports/views on the DSS.
To stick with Gary's rule of don't slander the Bible I quoted 1 article against Jesus and 2 supporting Jesus.
I hope thats fine.

http://www.burningcross.net/crusades/jesus-dead-sea-scrolls.html
By the time scholars completed the translation work on the Dead Sea Scrolls one very important fact immerged — something that probably no one expected. Nowhere in the Dead Sea Scrolls was the name of Jesus mentioned — shocking indeed. Nor did the popular Christian view of early Christianity find any support in the new translations.

To summarize, Professor N.S. Rajaram in his book "The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Crisis of Christianity" the contents of the Dead Sea Scrolls challenged the two most fundamental beliefs of Christianity: the uniqueness of Jesus Christ and Christianity as the embodiment of the message of Christ.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080922050131AAeYGiQ
The most accepted Old Testament Hebrew text is the Masoretic text, which was compiled by a group of scribes living around A.D. 500. In 1947 near the Dead Sea, a young boy was trying to chase some sheep out of a cave. When he threw a rock inside, he heard a piece of pottery break. So he went inside and there discovered ancient scrolls of the Old Testament, which came to be called the Dead Sea Scrolls. It is especially significant that when scholars compared the Masoretic text with the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were written 550 to 900 years before, they found that they are essentially identical. Old Testament scholar Gleason Archer points out that any variation is minute and insignificant (A Survey of the Old Testament [Chicago: Moody, 1964], p. 25).

So the evidence rejects the claim there were transmission problems with the Bible. The God who inspired it has preserved it. Jesus said, "My words shall not pass away" (Matt. 24:35). I believe part of the fulfillment of that prophecy is His keeping the manuscripts accurate.

The dead sea scroll copies of the old testament dated hundreds of years before Christ, prove that (1) the prophecies of scripture foretelling Jesus' coming were written long before Jesus, and haven't changed to this day, (2) Jesus is the prophesied messiah/savior of the world, (3) bears witness God's word is true.

They do mention Jesus, only they were prophecies about his coming, and return, written before he was born. Jesus said the prophecies (there r over 300) of this coming one, were about him. The prophets of the old testament prophecy him to be of the line of David, born of a virgin, in Bethlehem, come die for our sins, but be spotless as to doing anything wrong, (Isaiah 53 is a great place to start -Is 42:6) heal the blind, deaf, set people free, be pierced for our transgressions, the cross is described hundreds of years before instituted by Romans as a practice (Ps. 22). ect. as well as many prophecies about His return. All of the Bible really is centered on Christ. The day of atonement, the white lamb sacrificed, was a picture of the coming savior who would pay the price for our sins once and for all, so we might be saved from final separation from God - He taking our penalty, and we, if we chose to enter into a personal relationship with Him, His cleanness before God, and adoption as children and heirs.

In Isaiah (i.e. 41:23-24) God said, if you be God, show it by telling the future. He tells the future with 100% accuracy in the Bible, unrivaled by any belief system, because He ultimately both knows what will happen as well as has the power to bring about His greater plan. He proves his ultimate power, but His knowledge and control over the ultimate outcome of this world. The dead sea scrolls mean proof God's word is true through prophecy, it's message has not changed and that one day we will all be accountable to God and what we did with Jesus.
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The dead sea scrolls contained more than the Old testament. Besides the copied books that were held by the greater Jewish community to be true, (in line with the Gen 18 test of a true prophet, as well as God's revealed law in the old covenant), it also contained separate books that held mystical beliefs not in line with God's proven prophets, and His word. The dead sea scrolls, containing old testament scriptures and other writings, were compiled by a small Jewish sect that lived near the dead sea called the Essene's.

http://destee.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-5263.html
Reading of the Scrolls did not shake Judaism or Christianity, as some scholars had anticipated, but there was debate over the years over why they did not mention Jesus Christ. Tov explained that it was probably too early for Jesus to appear in the literature. "Don't forget that all the Scrolls written prior to the year zero could not have mentioned him," Tov said. "So you are left only with the scrolls from zero to around 70. Then don't forget the New Testament itself was not written in the year zero or the year one, or two but the first writings were in the middle of the first century so it wasn't yet written up."

http://encyclopediaegypt.com/israel/j0265.htm
According to this site the DSS are written with a non ancient Hebrew font.

Confusing  :sigh:

[martincisneros]

Your last quote pretty much covers it because many of the scrolls are copies of the Old Testament writings dating from about 250B.C., including Isaiah, Daniel, and the prophets.  The book of Enoch and other writings are also included.  There's an interesting copper scroll as well that I don't have time to really get into.  For all I know, the copper scroll might be an interesting google search, but I don't know for sure because I'm thin on time and have to run out the door in a sec.  I've been told that all of the Old Testament is included in the Dead Sea Scrolls except for the book of Esther.  Jesus is mentioned in the later scrolls, though, as the Teacher of Righteousness and they'll mention a healing prophet that was in the land that many believed in that community was THE Prophet spoken of by Moses that would come.  Hopefully others have more details to share 'cause I haven't looked at this subject in a really long time.  Robert Eisenman (sp?) who is one of the top Dead Sea Scrolls scholars has written a couple of massive books on James the brother of Jesus and he concluded from the Scrolls and other evidence that Jesus was a vegan.  I know that gets sticky for some folks over lamb and fish that I don't have time to get into detail about 'cause I'm pressed for time, but his thesis that he successfully defends in "James the Brother of Jesus" is that whatever James was, Jesus was.  And there's a whole chapter devoted to James' veganism because he even refused to wear wool.  There's much to connect Jesus with the Essene community, including the fact that the word "Nazarene" isn't a reference to the city of Nazareth, but is a reference to the Essenes.  When St. Paul is called a ringleader of the Nazarene sect in the book of Acts, they were calling him an Essene.  Again, the book I've just mentioned gets into the documentation.

[WhiteWings]

Thanks Martin.

I hope for some more info including my 'font question'

Lets just for a second assume the whole NT is a hoax.
I think then we have less clear but still good UR evidence in the OT....????

[Tony N]

Martin,
If the Essenes were strict vegetarians then they would be law breakers for they are commanded at least once a year to eat lamb during passover.

I seriously doubt Jesus was vegan.