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Started by lomarah, December 04, 2009, 01:37:26 AM

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lomarah

I am wondering if anyone has ever read some of the supposed experiences that people have had in hell and what you make of them? The one I am thinking of in particular is the testimony of seven youth who were supposedly taken to hell by Jesus. Most of the stories don't disturb me, but this one does because there are seven youths all testifying that they went there and what they saw. If anyone has read it or is willing to read it I would like to hear what you think. (However if you have issues with anxiety I would strongly suggest you don't!)
Thanks.

Cardinal

 :cloud9: And where is this posted about the 7? Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

lomarah

http://spiritlessons.com/
If you scroll down you can click on the one with the seven columbian youths. Thanks for being willing to check this out.  :cloud9:

Taffy

Sorry stopped at "This man was John Lennon..." :sigh:

LOVE conquers ALL, Christ DIED for all, AND will Draw ALL men unto HIMSELF

One is not oppossed to dreams or visions , But the Lord uses the natural to explain the spiritual, we dont LOOK at the natural as the reality But  to the spiritual it portrays...Lest as With John In Revelation , we have Beasts Rising from the sea et all

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firstborn888

QuoteThey encountered and fought against numerous dragons, demon kings, false angels, false christs, demons seeking sympathy, vampires, demons promoting suicide, evil spirits disguised as beautiful women, etc.

Vivid imaginations at work.

QuoteThey were shown the unimaginable paradise prepared for obedient Christians and the doom waiting for disobedient Christians, and those whose lives are full of sin.

Salvation by works. Bunk.

Later they complain about abortion. With their beliefs shouldn't they be glad a few unborn get to sneak in under the radar?  :dontknow:

fullarmor2

   Doesn't the Word say some where,   "I will answer them according to the idols in their hearts".     

legoman

Vivid imaginations indeed.  One wonders if they actually believe this stuff, otherwise how can 7 people continue to keep telling silly lies like these and keep there stories straight without anyone spilling the beans?

That was the first time I had seen that whole paper about the seven youths in hell (I may try to read the whole thing tomorrow).  Its all unscriptural foolishness of course.  Ray Smith talks about the "seven youths in hell" here:

http://bible-truths.com/lake16-D1.htm


Raggedy Anne

Quote from: firstborn888 on December 04, 2009, 04:45:04 AM

Salvation by works. Bunk.

Later they complain about abortion. With their beliefs shouldn't they be glad a few unborn get to sneak in under the radar?  :dontknow:

Yeah, that is one of the contradictions I've often noted about the hellers - how they are so adamant about how evil abortion is, but perfectly willing to "excuse" God for burning people alive in hell.  That's really too much.

anne

cre8ed2worship

A friend of mine always uses this as an excuse for there being a real, live, hell!

I am not trying to make fun of lomarah's question at all, but I always tell my friend this:
People have visions and "real life experiences" of alien abductions too!!!  Does that make aliens real?   :rolllol:


jabcat

Quote from: fullarmor2 on December 04, 2009, 05:00:13 AM
   Doesn't the Word say some where,   "I will answer them according to the idols in their hearts".     
Very interesting point.  I've read that many of those perceived experiences often, if not always, fall in line with the sort of things people already believe - perhaps a manifestation of what's already in their mind?
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

natcat86

The thing that strikes me about all these hell experiences is that they seem to contradict their own false interpretation of hell. I thought hell was created for the demons but becuase Adam fell God had no choice but to send humans there too. In all the hell exeperiences I've heard/read the demons are not being punished at all but are given the pleasure of tormenting God's creation for eternity. Who devised the tortures like boiling couldrens of mud, God or the demons?

WhiteWings

Quote from: natcat86 on December 04, 2009, 11:07:44 AMWho devised the tortures like boiling couldrens of mud, God or the demons?
Church leaders???
I wouldn't be suprised to see the same teachings in ancient pagan religions..
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Barry DuPont

Quote from: natcat86 on December 04, 2009, 11:07:44 AM
The thing that strikes me about all these hell experiences is that they seem to contradict their own false interpretation of hell. I thought hell was created for the demons but becuase Adam fell God had no choice but to send humans there too. In all the hell exeperiences I've heard/read the demons are not being punished at all but are given the pleasure of tormenting God's creation for eternity. Who devised the tortures like boiling couldrens of mud, God or the demons?

IMO that is such an excellent observation.
Apparently the demons are just having the time of their life. They couldn't have asked for anything better.
Go figure.

Barry

lomarah

OHMYGOSH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So I hadn't read the testimony in quite a while, I had just always had that nagging in the back of my mind about it because it bugged me that there were seven people testifying about it... Well I just went to the link that legoman posted and read the part of it that he quotes and oh my goodness, don't I feel stupid! The testimony is so utterly ridiculous that I can't believe it even bugged me at all.  :LH: :mlaugh:
I highly recommend reading the link, it's hilarious!

Quote from: natcat86 on December 04, 2009, 11:07:44 AM
The thing that strikes me about all these hell experiences is that they seem to contradict their own false interpretation of hell. I thought hell was created for the demons but becuase Adam fell God had no choice but to send humans there too. In all the hell exeperiences I've heard/read the demons are not being punished at all but are given the pleasure of tormenting God's creation for eternity. Who devised the tortures like boiling couldrens of mud, God or the demons?

Very good point indeed!

Thanks for all the feedback once again, and I hope you all read that link and have yourselves a good laugh.  :bigGrin:


sven

such "experiences" don't prove anything, I also have read about a supernatural Conversation story of 5 boys who after defiling a mosque had one and the same visions and became Muslims. I wouldn't wonder if also Hindus had similar supernatural experiences, just like there are NDE's with all kinds of religious backgrounds.

it can be the work of demons or just an invention as this story about hell found in Sibiria

lomarah

Quote from: sven on December 04, 2009, 03:41:27 PM
such "experiences" don't prove anything, I also have read about a supernatural Conversation story of 5 boys who after defiling a mosque had one and the same visions and became Muslims. I wouldn't wonder if also Hindus had similar supernatural experiences, just like there are NDE's with all kinds of religious backgrounds.

it can be the work of demons or just an invention as this story about hell found in Sibiria

Hmm, good points. I didn't know they found hell in Siberia. Haha that's too funny!

WhiteWings

Quote from: lomarah on December 04, 2009, 04:32:42 PM
Quote from: sven on December 04, 2009, 03:41:27 PM
such "experiences" don't prove anything, I also have read about a supernatural Conversation story of 5 boys who after defiling a mosque had one and the same visions and became Muslims. I wouldn't wonder if also Hindus had similar supernatural experiences, just like there are NDE's with all kinds of religious backgrounds.

it can be the work of demons or just an invention as this story about hell found in Sibiria

Hmm, good points. I didn't know they found hell in Siberia. Haha that's too funny!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well_to_Hell_hoax
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=siberia+drill+hell&meta=
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

chuckt

Quote from: lomarah on December 04, 2009, 01:37:26 AM
I am wondering if anyone has ever read some of the supposed experiences that people have had in hell and what you make of them? The one I am thinking of in particular is the testimony of seven youth who were supposedly taken to hell by Jesus. Most of the stories don't disturb me, but this one does because there are seven youths all testifying that they went there and what they saw. If anyone has read it or is willing to read it I would like to hear what you think. (However if you have issues with anxiety I would strongly suggest you don't!)
Thanks.

the very fact you have demons and the devil doing the torturing is baltent contradiction to truth.

dosent seem like much of a punishment for satan and his demons to be able to torment souls for all eternity, sounds more like reward for them.

thats all i gotta say about it, but i tell you these pushing this type thing have a rude awakining.

peace
chuckt

peacemaker

Quote from: lomarah on December 04, 2009, 01:37:26 AM
I am wondering if anyone has ever read some of the supposed experiences that people have had in hell and what you make of them?

"Anything is possible within the mind of a child, that's full of fables!"

peacemaker

lomarah

Quote from: peacemaker on December 18, 2009, 05:57:52 AM
Quote from: lomarah on December 04, 2009, 01:37:26 AM
I am wondering if anyone has ever read some of the supposed experiences that people have had in hell and what you make of them?

"Anything is possible within the mind of a child, that's full of fables!"

peacemaker

Very true!  :cloud9: