Eternal torment nonsense

[FineLinen]

"Eternal torments as a doctrine, whether it is true or not, serves as a powerful deterrent against sinning certain, specific sins that we can commit."

NONSENSE 101!

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There are no concordance results for eternal torment in the KJV.

Search "everlasting punishment" = Matthew 25:46

What the Master declares is the foundation of everlasting punishment (kolasis aionios).

"And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say to them on his right hand, Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungry, and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in: naked, and you clothed me: I was sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came unto me."

[darryl]

true..believing in it never helped me much in the fight against sin...thank God i no longer hold to it !

[FineLinen]

true..believing in it never helped me much in the fight against sin...thank God i no longer hold to it !

Darryl: The fight against sin begins with radical change from the inside out as we behold His glorious Person. Thank God indeed for His intervention.

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Occurs 0 (ZERO) times in 0 (ZERO) verses in the KJV.

There are no concordance results for "eternal torment" in the KJV.

[darryl]

true..believing in it never helped me much in the fight against sin...thank God i no longer hold to it !

Darryl: The fight against sin begins with radical change from the inside out as we behold His glorious Person. Thank God indeed for His intervention.

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Occurs 0 (ZERO) times in 0 (ZERO) verses in the KJV.

There are no concordance results for "eternal torment" in the KJV.

Fine Linen....yep....thats true...its a tradition of men

[FineLinen]

God's Lost & Found

When the Scripture uses a word such as perish or destroy, the original word is apollumi.

The koine Greek word apollumi means to lose, or to be lost. It is the same word Jesus used when He said "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel" (Matthew 15:24). and "Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep (Luke 15:4-7).

The word, apollumi, is used to describe a sheep which was lost and then was found and restored.

Christ uses this same exact word in the following verse, "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matthew 10:28-29). (The word translated as "Hell" in this verse is actually gehenna, the city dump outside of Jerusalem)


The original koine for destroy here is apollumi which means to lose or be lost.

This verse is not speaking of an eternal annihilation of a soul, but of a temporary losing of the soul, just like the lost sheep that was later found. It is the same with all the times you see Jesus speaking of someone perishing, such as in John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

A better translation would be whoever believes in Him should not be lost. We are all lost until God finds us. Those who die yet unbelieving will experience further apollumi, or being lost in the Lake of Fire, which is the second death. But God has promised to destroy all death once and for all and grant belief to all at the consummation of the ages.

If apollumi meant destruction according to the traditional definition by those who believe in eternal torment or annihilation, then Jesus is lost forever, "But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the multitudes that they should ask for Barabbas and destroy (apollumi) Jesus." Matt. 27:20

So then, will you hold to the "traditional" view which makes the word of God of no effect? Or, will you have the courage to go against the traditional hell-fire or annihilation view which denigrates the glorious victory Jesus bought through conquering death on the Cross for all mankind? Those who are lost? or perished, are like the lost sheep. The lost sheep was perished, but the shepherd sought it out and restored it. We are all like the lost sheep before God finds us. Even now we are. We are all apollumi, or lost and perished as the lost sheep was. We are separated and alienated from God. But the lost sheep did not stay that way. And neither does anyone else.

The Good Shepherd does not stop looking until He has found the last one.

[Ross]

A better translation would be whoever believes in Him should not be lost. We are all lost until God finds us. Those who die yet unbelieving will experience further apollumi, or being lost in the Lake of Fire, which is the second death. But God has promised to destroy all death once and for all and grant belief to all at the consummation of the ages.

The Good Shepherd does not stop looking until He has found the last one.

:thumbsup: The Greek words made the correction an on-going process; English made those words dead.
Claiming to know Christ is different from actually being "in Christ".
The flesh cannot grasp the spiritual.
C.U

[FineLinen]

The origins of eternal torment =

https://bible-truths.com/lake16-C.html

[FineLinen]

Every culture hoax

https://bible-truths.com/lake16-D1.htm