From Fox News:
People in the world's most populous Muslim nation have been facing Africa — not Mecca — while praying.
Indonesia's highest Islamic body acknowledged Monday it made a mistake when issuing an edict in March saying the holy city in Saudi Arabia was to the country's west. It has since asked followers to shift direction slightly northward during their daily prayers.
"After a thorough study with some cosmography and astronomy experts, we learned they've been facing southern Somalia and Kenya," said Ma'ruf Amin, a prominent cleric of the Indonesian Ulema Council, or MUI. "We've revised it now to the northwest."
Oops. Missed it by that much. :laughing7:
(I know, I know, it's mean. Don't smack me. It's just such a funny visual. All those rear ends pointing the wrong direction.)
(I'll let someone else come up with the Kenya jokes :happy3:).
Amazing you wrote that, Jab.
There is a park across the street from my house and yesterday they had a tent/rummage sale there.
I was on my porch watching the people when one man approached a tree, spread out his prayer mat and went through his Muslim motions for a few minutes.
But, the first thing that hit me was that he was facing much too far north.
I live on the Jersey Shore and he was pointing more to Britain than Mecca.
Maybe those little mats should be sold with a compass sewn in, apparently they don't know the WAY!
Funny Dave. :laughing7:
Maybe we could suggest the "compass" of John 3:16 be printed on their mats.
:cloud9: Too funny.... :laughing7: I tell you one thing, though, God is sovereignly starting to save some of them, appearing to them in dreams and in visions. I just re-posted one man's amazing testimony on FB this last week.
He was with Hezbollah, caught, put in prison, taught Islam while he was in there, UNTIL the Lord appeared to him and he asked Him what His name was. That man was a crying mess, he couldn't even get thru his youtube video, he was so overcome for the what the Lord had done for him.
I've always said, when their devotion to idols is turned, they will be just as on fire for the Lord, this time in a good way. Blessings...
Quote from: jabcat on July 19, 2010, 06:41:27 PM
(I'll let someone else come up with the Kenya jokes :happy3:).
(http://www.moonbattery.com/obama-cartoon-1.jpg)
:bigGrin: 1...
How far can you count?
Facing west...
(http://iranpoliticsclub.net/cartoons/steph-bergol1/images/23%20Islamic%20Apple%20Worm!.jpeg)
Quote from: Cardinal on July 19, 2010, 08:05:26 PM
:cloud9: Too funny.... :laughing7: I tell you one thing, though, God is sovereignly starting to save some of them, appearing to them in dreams and in visions. I just re-posted one man's amazing testimony on FB this last week.
He was with Hezbollah, caught, put in prison, taught Islam while he was in there, UNTIL the Lord appeared to him and he asked Him what His name was. That man was a crying mess, he couldn't even get thru his youtube video, he was so overcome for the what the Lord had done for him.
I've always said, when their devotion to idols is turned, they will be just as on fire for the Lord, this time in a good way. Blessings...
I've heard a prophecy somewhere that says jesus will apear to the arab people and build his underground church, Jesus through his holy spirit poured on all flesh in the last days giving young men dreams and old men visions.
Quote from: WhiteWings on July 19, 2010, 08:45:43 PM
Facing west...
(http://iranpoliticsclub.net/cartoons/steph-bergol1/images/23%20Islamic%20Apple%20Worm!.jpeg)
:mshock: WW, that's creepy :eeew:
Quote from: thinktank on July 19, 2010, 10:41:39 PM
Quote from: Cardinal on July 19, 2010, 08:05:26 PM
:cloud9: Too funny.... :laughing7: I tell you one thing, though, God is sovereignly starting to save some of them, appearing to them in dreams and in visions. I just re-posted one man's amazing testimony on FB this last week.
He was with Hezbollah, caught, put in prison, taught Islam while he was in there, UNTIL the Lord appeared to him and he asked Him what His name was. That man was a crying mess, he couldn't even get thru his youtube video, he was so overcome for the what the Lord had done for him.
I've always said, when their devotion to idols is turned, they will be just as on fire for the Lord, this time in a good way. Blessings...
I've heard a prophecy somewhere that says jesus will apear to the arab people and build his underground church, Jesus through his holy spirit poured on all flesh in the last days giving young men dreams and old men visions.
So Jesus will goto the temples of Baal? :msealed:
:cloud9: :Whistle: :Chinscratch: :wink:
Quote from: jabcat on July 19, 2010, 06:30:53 PM
it made a mistake when issuing an edict in March saying the holy city in Saudi Arabia was to the country's west.
....
"After a thorough study with some cosmography and astronomy experts, we learned they've been facing southern Somalia and Kenya,"
Why didn't they study it before the edict in March?
Instead of those experts they just could have used a 50ct map :winkgrin:
But they are always facing down. So the direction is not completly wrong. :happygrin:
Kenyan finger on the right :winkgrin:
(http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/suicide_of_the_west.jpg)
Quote from: WhiteWings on July 20, 2010, 08:42:37 AM
Quote from: thinktank on July 19, 2010, 10:41:39 PM
Quote from: Cardinal on July 19, 2010, 08:05:26 PM
:cloud9: Too funny.... :laughing7: I tell you one thing, though, God is sovereignly starting to save some of them, appearing to them in dreams and in visions. I just re-posted one man's amazing testimony on FB this last week.
He was with Hezbollah, caught, put in prison, taught Islam while he was in there, UNTIL the Lord appeared to him and he asked Him what His name was. That man was a crying mess, he couldn't even get thru his youtube video, he was so overcome for the what the Lord had done for him.
I've always said, when their devotion to idols is turned, they will be just as on fire for the Lord, this time in a good way. Blessings...
I've heard a prophecy somewhere that says jesus will apear to the arab people and build his underground church, Jesus through his holy spirit poured on all flesh in the last days giving young men dreams and old men visions.
So Jesus will goto the temples of Baal? :msealed:
Why do you not understand my speech? my words are spirit, the flesh profiteth nothing,
ye are of your father the , "perhaps I should stop at this point", :laughing7:
Quote from: thinktank on July 20, 2010, 07:37:12 PMWhy do you not understand my speech?
I speak no Baalish.
It's memorized, repetitive "prayer" with no fire or perfume, still air in an empty censor.
Quote from: Beloved Servant on July 20, 2010, 07:58:26 PM
It's memorized, repetitive "prayer" with no fire or perfume, still air in an empty censor.
I see, there is a scripture about that somewhere, where Jesus says something in the region of they think by their much repitions they will be heard, instead pray like this. Our father who art in heaven.
Quote from: thinktank on July 20, 2010, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on July 20, 2010, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: thinktank on July 20, 2010, 07:37:12 PMWhy do you not understand my speech?
I speak no Baalish.
lol, I wonder how that would sound
Just talk to yourself TT and you know. Or listen to a mass deticated to Baallah in a mosque.
Quote from: thinktank on July 20, 2010, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: Beloved Servant on July 20, 2010, 07:58:26 PM
It's memorized, repetitive "prayer" with no fire or perfume, still air in an empty censor.
I see, there is a scripture about that somewhere, where Jesus says something in the region of they think by their much repitions they will be heard, instead pray like this. Our father who art in heaven.
KJVMat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/Rozenkrans.jpg/150px-Rozenkrans.jpg)
Quote from: WhiteWings on July 20, 2010, 08:21:18 PM
Quote from: thinktank on July 20, 2010, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on July 20, 2010, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: thinktank on July 20, 2010, 07:37:12 PMWhy do you not understand my speech?
I speak no Baalish.
lol, I wonder how that would sound
Just talk to yourself TT and you know. Or listen to a mass deticated to Baallah in a mosque.
I wish I did pray more like the muslims, their discipline is incredible.
But concering that prophecy, I did not write it but I think it means that the spirit of Jesus will be poured upon them behind closed doors, not in a public place such as a mosque, only to various individuals. This is not impossible as many Christians pray for Muslims to receive a revelation of Jesus and since there are very little missionaries in Arabia, then appearing in their dreams is a good way for Jesus to reach out to them. :2c:
good find with the scripture.