Read this about SHEOL in the blue Bible, and...

[sheila]

 :2c:all our thoughts come from two places[TOKOGAE]godly/spirit or carnal/beastly[serpent]  thus the warring in our mind to subject

every thought to Christ.

in our new creation/spirit man..we shall never be troubled in mind or body by any contrary thought will desire not in total harmony

with the Father.when a man's fleshly body returns to the dust...all the negative/adversarial thoughts perish from the flesh..and that

flesh is no longer conscious[the evil spirit of the prince of this world[know evil]finds some other dusty/flesh body.


   The man's spirit returns unto God..free of the duality it expierenced in it's body of death[tokogae with all it's enmity/warring/conflict]

some of this is mystery of godliness/godlessness that Christ reveals..nothing hidden[manna]that will not be revealed.That we may

know the depth,width and height of Christ,His love and mind.

[marie glen]

..maybe that’s where the spirits (psyches) go when they are sleeping in death.. after all the people of God in the OT “slept with the fathers” and the NT believers who had died were said to be asleep in Jesus. Where else would they go? ...They are not dead but sleep?

I do believe the carnal character falls off us both throughout this life.. like Paul said like a circumcision of the heart, the old character is stripped away.. but also said we are not yet perfected.. not until we all meet Him in the air as He is coming. And I also believe, as you do that any and all dregs of the carnal character fall off, but I think of it as being at resurrection.. I think of it and Hebrews 11:40 as being a collective thing.

Lately I have been really struck with how Jesus said “all in the tombs  will hear His voice and come forth.. some to the resurrection of life, and some to the resurrection of judgment”. Also with 2 Pet.2:9 - “God knows how to preserve the unjust” (not yet just) “for correction/kolasis on day of judgment”.

This is how I see the administration of God’s ages lately - I’m feeling compelled to do this outline/summary, lol.

Father.. His Spirit/Presence.. & the Son in timelessness.. then the angels.. God waiting

Universe, Adam and Eve.. babes, innocence.. God waiting

Abraham and the Fathers.. called out.. covenant of believing, listening, following..

Mt Sinai.. Thunder, lightning, tempest.. The Law

Lapse.. Kingdoms..

JESUS.. a new & living way.. He as Passover, Unleavened Bread of Life, and as the Firstfruits

Church age.. Good News to all men lost some of its glory, picked up some baggage. God’s “reasoning in words” passed through human hands.. God still waiting.. & living thru all things, every act of war, etc.

Sealing some on the forehead - (during this long pause of seal 6) clarity? spiritual virgins follow Him only, only truth, no untruth.. a world of imperfection can only ever be tribulation, apocalypse and death/lack of life.. tares are being drawn toward Armageddon battle..

The “Trumpets” announce His coming and at the last one Jesus returns amidst the fire (which looks like a lake?) with His angels and the believers who rose to meet Him at His coming.. “on that day His feet will stand on Mt of Olives” Zech.14:4(& chapter)

The millennium / “thousand years” ...Sabbath for God’s people?

The resurrection to Judgment - the rest of mankind’s “Day of Atonement”, like ours is “today”.. exactly like ours.. repentance, salted with fire.. some weeping, gnashing of teeth, even outer darkness.. i.e., born again and names written in the lamb’s book of life - Is there even one God cannot “correct”?

The event called “all in all” and “all things made new” of Rev.21:1-5.. a bigger (lake?) of fire - the second death —> the death of death, and of sorrow, pain, etc. God will now Tabernacle with mankind upon Earth made new. “The lion will eat straw like the ox, the bear will graze with the cow.” Isaiah 11:7