OATH confirming the Promise!

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Redlettervoice

Yall wouldn't believe "where" I am.  On a Jewish Messianic
Board.  And I know God sent me, He has opened my eyes
to Romans 11 more for which I am thankful.  Wanted to
share with my buddies here....what God gave me.

Bless everyone.  I will be in and out as I can.

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OATH confirms the promise.
From a conversation I am having with a Jewish Messianic.
He wrote an article on the Providence of God from the
beginning and this is part of my answer. 
Requested by Alan.

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My how the Lord is revealing to me. Just seeing that 'world" view, has
added so much to my understanding. I thank you so much Lord. That was
worded just right for me. The Providence from the Beginning.
Much of our "understanding" I have always thought will
take us back to the "beginning." When the Lord spake to
some of His disiples, He told them plainly, "For YOU have
been with me from the beginning
." Now surely, He was
speaking to their "spirit" which had understood, and their "flesh" was
as a "sinew" of flesh on Jacob's thigh, having shrunk. Like the thorn given to Paul,
Jacob had one now. And walked with that limp from then on.


Now, I am meditating on the "covenant" to
take away their sins. You know that HE is the Covenant, and the
work of Calvary
will be more and more revealed to us ....and...to them
that look for HIM will He appear the Second Time WITHOUT SIN


....sometimes if
I don't jump right up and put my inner thoughts to words on here, I
do not always remember them, but I know they are in my spirit, God is
establishing His Word, in the heavens, my heavens, your heavens,
and He is establishing what is "already" written as far as the Work of
Calvary is concerned
. And it was the Work of Calvary that made the "two" one, jew and gentile, the mystery of God. And this constitutes "Christ in YOU, the hope of Glory!" Selah. Yes, it should awaken the mystery because
the mystery is Christ, and Christ is LOVE that works by faith.

He is more than one can tell. It is the LOVE that will not fail.
The Love motivates "unity" of jew and gentile....and seeing the
oneness causes the Love to measure even more. And operate
even more.

God is "establishing" HIS Word in our heavens. After you have
suffered, Peter said, the Lord strengthen you "settle" you. "stablish"
you. And I will stablish you, settle you, and do you better than in
your "beginning." Ezek. 36

But we must put the horse before the cart, "unity" before
all else, "til" the understanding is understood! This is how people fail......they try to put the "doctrine" before
the LOVE and understanding, unity! And it is LOVE that
will never fail. All else tends to. If we are ever to understand one another, the Love and Unity must be striven for "first" ......wrangling over stuff and trying to "explain" stuff musses truths .......it is better to know that
"we" have been "given" an understanding. An "understanding" does not even have to explain. Love just
works. But LOVE I say is like walking on a tightrope, for we are not to "offend" .......people are at different junctures on this journey.


I woke this morning thinking "how does that
covenant TAKE AWAY sins?
" John Baptist said that too. He takes them from us by "bearing" them. Because He "bore" them! It had to do with the Cross. See that?
Ye who are "spiritual" ........"BEAR" the infirmities of the weak. Take
up 'your' cross and follow me. For even Christ pleased not himself,
but the reproaches of them that reproached fell on HIM!
So to a certain extent, we understand HIS Big Cross, by experiencing
one ourselves.

The sins were transferred to HIM when He was bearing them for us,
and they were taken from us, thus establishing Himself as the Covenant.

EliYahu, this is so wonderful. It was a light thing to give Himself for
one nation, but He also gave Himself to the gentiles that He may be
a light to the end of the world!

The SON is "made under the law" .......
I know you know where that is.......and the OATH maketh the SON.
Jesus "was" a minister "to the circumcision" ........for the "confirmation"
of the promises given to Isreal.......during His eartly
ministry and by "taking upon Himself, within Himself, He was
bearing the sins and thus "taking them away" from those He was
ministering to. He was the establishment of the Covenant....mentioned
in Romans 11
. Oh, if only we could make people "hear" this! It will
be heard as you say by the Jews in God's perfect time. Just think, I have
been studying for years, and I just now understood part of that.
.
The Covenant was for even unbelievers too, in order to
save them. The understanding of this mystery in Romans helps to
establish the LAW of LOVE, and prevent boasting. As Paul said, where
then "is" boasting? It is excluded by the law of Faith! and "the LAW"
that was added way back yon and endured for so long is "not" of faith!

So we see then that the LAW of God, is "not' the one that passes away,
but rather is established!!! Whew! That is a mouthful!

All Salvation is in the Promise. Not in the HORROR that
Abraham saw. If you go back and see my first new thoughts on that
Abraham thread, you will see how God began to unravel all this to me.
Blessed are they that fear the Lord, He will show to "them"
His Covenant. His Covenant that takes away sins. He cast them into
the sea of forgetfulness.
Nothing but the blood! Nothing but this
taking away of sins. I will cleanse their blood that I have NOT cleansed.
At first I thought I said something wrong. I thought that the PROMISE given
to Abraham was sworn to by God by Himself, then I thought it wasn't,
now I see it was.....ha........but the swearing by Himself with an OATH
came with the fulfillment, not with the Promise.......Abraham had to pass thru
the time of the horror and "then" it was sealed with a "confirmation"
now I see that the "confirmation" came and it was the second of ttwo
immutable things
. I have "always" wondered what that meant???? Absolutely,
this revelation "should" awaken people to Hebrew ROOTS!!! For it
should awaken us to the oneness of "jew and gentile" in Christ,
one new man, so making PEACE
man.
He is the
"confirmation."A confirmation "with" an OATH ends all strife.
And the SON is made with an OATH! Glory! There's that Son.
Who can get rid of that I AM "before" Abraham was! He was a
"hidden" child in the Quiver of God.
Now made known to His
prophets and apostles.
A "confirmation" with an OATH ends all strife. Can you imagine?
Jesus came to "confirm" the PROMISE, right? OK..........then it was
His blood, and we are told to "enter" in by this NEW and LIVING way!
It is alive! It is ever flowing. From the throne there is a River of LIFE.
From the confirmed promise that was sworn to by only God, not
based on any man's works. We obey Him because we LOVE Him. We love HIM because He first loved us.

As you said. Yes, this is "ever working" ever being revealed, I will
bring you, two of a city, and one of a family," individual salvation,
and national deliverance is working too when a multitude of believers understand this ........it is so simple and yet seems so deep. It is only
LOVE! It is looking beyond faults found under the law, and seeing
the needs.......God saw that "I" needed to know more about the mystery
of jew and gentile, and I do not know why He waited so long to show
me, except that I myself have had "enemies" for my sake......not jewish
people....because ha I never knew but two jews in my life!!!Not too many
in these parts of the South! especially where I live. And like you, I
could not bring myself to believe all the Zionist beliefs which the "church"
at large thinks. The Covenant establishment will exhalt JESUS, and
the ephasis is on HIM!
And "they"and "we" will bow to this MERCY when
they understand it!! We do, so why not them? Not only that, but God
sees right where people are "all the time" and people are precious
in His eyes long before they are in man's.