UR and ET in a short sentence.

[misszoolander]

When we tell people of the good news how can we simplify things for people of no religious background?

Traditional ET belief: God is eternal. He made Adam and Eve the first humans. They both sinned because of freewill which was a gift from God, and because of them the whole human race fell from grace, and was not worthy to be in Gods presence. God chose the Jewish people to be his chosen people, but they too failed him, so he sent down Jesus to die for them, but in his grace and mercy he extended the cross to bear our sins as well. When people die they are straight away sent to hell, or heaven, people do not cease to exist because they have immortal souls. Choose Jesus and believe he died for you you will go to heaven, unbelief causes you to go hell. If you believe but still sin without regard or repentance you are saying you choose hell. God is too holy to have an unrepentant sinner in his presence, because of this they must be in hell.

UR Belief:........ I leave you to finish the rest  :Peace2: remember a short sentence  :thumbsup:

[ded2daworld]

God is love. He loves you. He wants you to experience him now, but will wait till even after death
to show you his love, care, and plan.

[eaglesway]

Before it is all over, God will be all in all, and all will be in His love.

[misszoolander]

Thanks for your thoughts guys, definitely valid however I should have made myself slightly clearer...

I guess what I am asking for is your sentence summing up the bible and Gods plan altogether.

For an example : God created Adam and Eve, they were not born perfect because his plan was for his creation to understand good and evil, light and darkness. ... Etc

The reason why I am asking for your view is because sometimes I personally just skip the OT from the beginning and jump to Christ's cross and the love he bore for us all, however this can add confusion as people of no religious background will wonder how the OT, Adam, freewill etc comes into things. How can we explain it simply from start to finish?  :Peace2:

[dajomaco]

God created man in Gods image.
In the beginning Man was to please God by giving names,
to that which God created.
To show Man the deep concept of LOVE he made it possible for
man to know the difference between evil and good.
Man with the knowledge of good and evil,
judged himself not to be pure LOVE'
Man discovered that he had an EGO.
I n the old testament man said he could be GOOD,
and become pure LOVE, if God helped them.
So God helped and helped man but man always rightfully
new that he was not pure LOVE.
So man gave up as God new he would.
God made man pure LOVE,
in a way that man would agree with God
that yes, through the sacrifice of his son Jesus,
Man could truly believe  that he was a part of pure LOVE.

God did for Man what Man could not do for himself.     

[VineBranch]

When we tell people of the good news how can we simplify things for people of no religious background?

Traditional ET belief: God is eternal. He made Adam and Eve the first humans. They both sinned because of freewill which was a gift from God, and because of them the whole human race fell from grace, and was not worthy to be in Gods presence. God chose the Jewish people to be his chosen people, but they too failed him, so he sent down Jesus to die for them, but in his grace and mercy he extended the cross to bear our sins as well. When people die they are straight away sent to hell, or heaven, people do not cease to exist because they have immortal souls. Choose Jesus and believe he died for you you will go to heaven, unbelief causes you to go hell. If you believe but still sin without regard or repentance you are saying you choose hell. God is too holy to have an unrepentant sinner in his presence, because of this they must be in hell.

UR Belief:........ I leave you to finish the rest  :Peace2: remember a short sentence  :thumbsup:

You were born into God's loving embrace and that is where you will stay forever.

[Lazarus Short]

Easy!

ET means endless pain and no hope for most of us.

ED means endless death and no hope for most of us.

UR means life, love, and liberty for all of us.

[misszoolander]

God created man in Gods image.
In the beginning Man was to please God by giving names,
to that which God created.
To show Man the deep concept of LOVE he made it possible for
man to know the difference between evil and good.
Man with the knowledge of good and evil,
judged himself not to be pure LOVE'
Man discovered that he had an EGO.
I n the old testament man said he could be GOOD,
and become pure LOVE, if God helped them.
So God helped and helped man but man always rightfully
new that he was not pure LOVE.
So man gave up as God new he would.
God made man pure LOVE,
in a way that man would agree with God
that yes, through the sacrifice of his son Jesus,
Man could truly believe  that he was a part of pure LOVE.

God did for Man what Man could not do for himself.     

:thumbsup: Thanks so much Daj!

My personal interpretation which is similar to yours...

God created humankind good, but not perfect.
In order for human kind to understand love in a individualistic way he created them so they would fall,
by falling they experienced all sorts of grief, sin and hate.
However this is not all they were, for they can also experience joy, compassion and love.
However because God chooses not to forever dwell in the carnal nature of man he sent his son down, to cleanse and prepare the human race. Because of Christ we are being prepared into temples that God can dwell in forever more.
God can not show his mercifulness without sin. God can not show is ultimate love, to someone with no knowledge of hate.
Human kind one by one will be shown the truths of God, in order to comprehend and glorify him.
The world is like one big birth, full of pain, but we are being born into something new, once the birth takes place, we will become perfect.

The reason for your existence is so God can dwell in you, love you, and that you may be like God, glorifying him and loving others as he loves you. Love, the lesson God must teach us. To accept God in this life means you are learning and understanding these lessons now, therefore glorifying God.

[misszoolander]

Easy!

ET means endless pain and no hope for most of us.

ED means endless death and no hope for most of us.

UR means life, love, and liberty for all of us.

:banana:

[eaglesway]

ET means endless pain and no hope for most of us.      Judgment triumphs over mercy   Love loses

ED means endless death and no hope for most of us.   Judgment triumphs over mercy   Love loses

UR means life, love, and liberty for all of us.                   Mercy triumphs over judgment    Love wins

[dajomaco]

The reason for your existence is so God can dwell in you, love you, and that you may be like God, glorifying him and loving others as he loves you. Love, the lesson God must teach us. To accept God in this life means you are learning and understanding these lessons now, therefore glorifying God.


:iagree: :HeartThrob: :dsunny:

[Lazarus Short]

That was a nice counterpoint, EW.

[Eduard]

ET: Love (God) loses
UR: Love wins

I love that :thumbsup:

[misszoolander]

Jesus wins!!  :dsunny:

[Lazarus Short]

How could He not?

[eaglesway]

Indeed, How could He not, since in the defining moment of His life He cries out, "Father forgive them, they don't know what they are doing."   Such love. Such glorious love. Arms stretched open wide, broken-hearted for our ignorance.

[marie glen]

...God can only be Perfect, but endowed thinking ability anyway (which includes, sooner or later, choice) but the 'end' result (He is working) can only be the best one possible, for perfection can make no mistakes.

[Eduard]

Trust in the Lord with all your heart, lean not on your own expectations. In all your ways acknowledge him and he will make your path straight.

I love this proverb. :HeartThrob: