The power of God's love from the view of Napoleon

[Phillip Macdonald]

The following is quoted in Hilarin Felder, Christ and the Critics, vol. 2, pp. 216-17) 

Felder states:
"Napoleon regarded this as precisely the most striking proof of the divinity of Jesus--namely, his power over men's hearts. The once wellnigh all-powerful Corsican, in the solitude of his last days, called up before his imagination all the heroic figures and master minds of the world, and measured them by his own gigantic greatness. But all of them combined, and he himself as well, vanished like empty shadows before the person of Jesus Christ:


Napoleon:
"What a conqueror!--a conqueror who controls humanity at will, and wins to himself not only one nation, but the whole human race. What a marvel! He attaches to himself the human soul with all its energies. And how? By a miracle which surpasses all others. He claims the love of men--that is to say, the most difficult thing in the world to obtain; that which the wisest of men cannot froce from his truest friend, that which no father can compel from his children, no wife from her husband, no brother from his brother--the heart. He claims it ; he requires it absolutely and undividedly, and he obtains it instantly.

Alexander, Caesar, Hannibal, Louis XIV strove in vain to secure this. They conquered the world, yet they had not a single friend, or at all events, they have none any more. Christ speaks, however, and from that moment all generations belong to him; and they are joined to him much more closely than by any ties of blood and by a much more intimate, sacred and powerful communion. He kindles the flame of love which causes one's self-love to die, and triumphs over every other love. Why should we not recognize in this miracle of love the eternal Word which created the world? The other founders of religions had not the least conception of this mystic love which forms the essence of Christianity.

I have filled multitudes with such passionate devotion that they went to death for me. But God forbid that I should compare the enthusiasm of my soldiers with Christian love. They are as unlike as their causes. In my case, my presence was always necessary, the electric effect of my glance, my voice, my words, to kindle fire in their hearts. And I certainly posses personally the secret of that magic power of taking by storm the sentiments of men; but I was not able to communicate that power to anyone. None of my generals ever learned it from me or found it out. Moreover, I myself do not possess the secret of perpetuating my name and a love for me in their hearts for ever, and to work miracles in them without material means.

Now that I languish here at St Helena, chained upon this rock, who fights, who conquers empires for me? Who still even thinks of me? Who interests himself for me in Europe? Who has remained true to me? That is the fate of all great men. It was the fate of Alexander and Caesar, as it is my own. We are forgotten, and the names of the mightiest conquerors and most illustrious emperors are soon only the subject of a schoolboy's taks. Our exploits come under the rod of a pedantic schoolmaster, who praises or condemns us as he likes.

What an abyss exists between my profound misery and the eternal reign of Christ, who is preached, loved, and worshipped, and live on throughout the entire world. Is this to die? Is it not rather to live eternally? The death of Christ! It is the death of a God."

From the site, "The Sacred Page":  (http://www.thesacredpage.com/2008/04/napoleons-proof-for-divinity-of-jesus.html)




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[jabcat]

Hi Philip. I realize you aren't aware of it, but this topic has caused many problems on TM and is discouraged as an on-going discussion - as it historically has not remained just a discussion, and has too often turned into unproductive food fights.  (more info under FAQ)

As a "conciliatory/middle-ground" offering, I'd suggest few if any on the forum, whether a free will advocate or not, would argue that God doesn't ultimately win, or that man will ultimately stop or frustrate God's purposes.   Seems without getting into all the "what does free will mean, how many variations, I'm right/you're wrong" technicalities, we can pretty much agree on the final outcome.   :thumbsup:

Hopefully it will either sort of be left at that, or at least pursued with that in mind.   

Thanks, blessings, James.

[Phillip Macdonald]

Thanks for the heads up, James.  I understand. I changed the topic.

[jabcat]

First of all, I really appreciate that, thank you very much.

Secondly, it looks just fine to me.  Hopefully it works for everyone else as a point of learning and further discussion.   :thumbsup:

[Molly]

That was really interesting, looking at Jesus through the eyes of Napoleon.

I would imagine he would want that position for himself, because that is the way he conducted his life and conquests.

Yet, he finally realizes that these qualities which he so admires and aspired to himself can only be found in one man who ever lived.

But, he's not jealous.  He's filled with awe and admiration.

Very interesting!

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Fascinating to see that even Napoleon bowed the knee.... :thumbsup:

[Phillip Macdonald]

Here's snother quote that Gary has posted on the Tentmaker site that sums up the above paragraph:

"I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him."

                                                                                                      --Napoleon

[jabcat]

Here's snother quote that Gary has posted on the Tentmaker site that sums up the above paragraph:

"I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him."

                                                                                                      --Napoleon

:thumbsup:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: That is so cool..... :thumbsup: