The gates of hell

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WhiteWings

Doctrine
Matt 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the forces of Hades/hell will not overpower it.
Scripture
Matt 16:18 And I say unto you, that you are Peter, and upon this, the rock, I will build my assembly, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Doctrine and Scripture both state there is a war between church and hades/hell are at war and church wins.
Doctrine states Hades attacks; Scriptures states the opposite. Read that until you see it because this is crucial!

Scripture states church will break down the gates of hell. Why they do that Scripture doesn't state.
Possibly to enter themselves or let the prisoners escape.
But it's clear the church doesn't break down the gates because they want to assist satan and his buddies or go there for the nice climate.

Now a short history lesson that sheds some light on hell.
Hades is the name of the kingdom which is named after its god.
Hel(l) is the name of the kingdom which is named after its god.




QuoteWhy was Hell spelled Hel in parts of the KJV-1611 Bible?

Did you know that the secular meaning behind the word 'hell,' just as the original meaning of 'hades' simply meant ?hidden, out of sight?? Yep, in the ancient German, when two young folks went to a dark place to hide for some necking, they ?went to hel,? they hid somewhere. Our English words helmut, hall, hole, and heel, all stem from the German word hele. The religious meaning of the word Hell came from Germany too -- actually it came from Teutonic mythology.

Hele was a goddess of the underworld in ancient folklore.

Hel is the name of the Norse underworld, and its ruler. Hel/Hela, in Norse mythology, was the hideous daughter of the Giant Loki, banished to the netherworld, Helheim (literally, 'house of Hel'), world of the dead, by the Chief God, Odin. The distinctive looking Goddess, whose skin is black on one side, rules over the dead until Ragnarok and the coming birth of the new world.

Hel is sister of Fenris, the wolf, and Jormungand, the world-serpent.

The name for the Christian world of torment "Hell" is derived from Hela's abode. Unlike the Christian version, however, Hel's realm was home to all who did not die in battle - miserable as it was, good behavior wasn't any more likely to get one a reprieve. Helheim's entrance works only in one direction- once one has entered, even a God, one cannot leave - like the Greek Hades, Helheim is guarded by a monstrous hound, and encircled by an impassable river. According to legend, the dead will remain in Hel's kingdom until the last days of Ragnarok.
I highligted som parts. See the parallels with Scripture.
Serpent = satan
impassable river = the chasm between Lazarus and teh rich man
Ragnarok = end times = final battle = dead exit the kingdom of the dead
       
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

WhiteWings

Job 26:6 Sheol is naked before God, and Abaddon has no covering.
Note how sheol and Abadon are linked to uncovered (hell means also hidden)

Job 28:22 Abaddon and Death say, ?We have heard news of it with our ears.?
Note how Abaddon and Death are both written with capital because they are enities.

Job 31:12 For it is a fire that consumes down to Abaddon; it would destroy my entire harvest.
Ps 88:11 Will Your faithful love be declared in the grave, Your faithfulness in Abaddon?
Prov 15:11 Sheol and Abaddon lie open before the LORD ? how much more, human hearts.
Note how sheol and Abadon are linked to uncovered (hell means also hidden)

Prov 27:20 Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied, and people?s eyes are never satisfied.
Rev 9:11 They had as their king the angel of the abyss; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he has the name Apollyon.
Angel of the abyss = Abaddon = Apollyon  => are in a 'covered place'

1Cor 15:55 Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting?
Defeat


Hos 13:14 I will give the price to make them free from the power of the underworld (Hades/Hela), I will be their saviour from death: O death! where are your pains? O underworld! where is your destruction? my eyes will have no pity.
That verse has many translations. Look them up. I picked this one because it sums up things quite nicely.

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

darryl

Did you know that the secular meaning behind the word 'hell,' just as the original meaning of 'hades' simply meant ?hidden, out of sight?? Yep, in the ancient German, when two young folks went to a dark place to hide for some necking, they ?went to hel,? they hid somewhere. Our English words helmut, hall, hole, and heel, all stem from the German word hele. The religious meaning of the word Hell came from Germany too -- actually it came from Teutonic mythology.

Hele was a goddess of the underworld in ancient folklore.

Hel is the name of the Norse underworld, and its ruler. Hel/Hela, in Norse mythology, was the hideous daughter of the Giant Loki, banished to the netherworld, Helheim (literally, 'house of Hel'), world of the dead, by the Chief God, Odin. The distinctive looking Goddess, whose skin is black on one side, rules over the dead until Ragnarok and the coming birth of the new world.

Hel is sister of Fenris, the wolf, and Jormungand, the world-serpent.

The name for the Christian world of torment "Hell" is derived from Hela's abode. Unlike the Christian version, however, Hel's realm was home to all who did not die in battle - miserable as it was, good behavior wasn't any more likely to get one a reprieve. Helheim's entrance works only in one direction- once one has entered, even a God, one cannot leave - like the Greek Hades, Helheim is guarded by a monstrous hound, and encircled by an impassable river. According to legend, the dead will remain in Hel's kingdom until the last days of Ragnarok."

amen..thats why HELL is a bad bad pagan word that should NEVER be used
"I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance".Isaiah 45:23