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Love Inexhaustible?

Started by FineLinen, December 05, 2007, 02:33:45 PM

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FineLinen

Love Inextinguishable & Inexhaustible

"So in a little wrath I hid My face from you for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on you, saith the Lord your Redeemer."

The Prophets and Psalms are full with pictures of the vastness of the Divine mercy, of His tenderness that never fails, never! From the midst of the sadness of the Lamentations of Jeremiah, we hear a voice assuring us that "the Lord will not cast off forever, but though He cause grief, yet will He have compassion according to the multitude of His tender mercies.

QuoteI will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth, for the spirit should fail before Me, and the souls which I have made. -Isa. 57:16-

There is a sharp contrast between the short duration of God's anger/ displeasure, and the endless character of His overwhelming love...."little wrath/ but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on you, saith the Lord your Redeemer." Our Lord's kindness and mercy are everlasting! Nothing can separate us from the Love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord, nothing!

For A Moment

Let our hearts dwell on the significance of the fact of the limited duration of our Fathers displeasure, taught in the Old Covenant as "for a moment."

"I am merciful, saith the Lord, I will not keep anger forever." -Jer. 3:12-

"His anger endureth but a moment" -Psalm 30:5-

"While His mercy endureth for ever" -Psalm 136-

(A statement repeated no less than 26 times in one chapter.)

QuoteHe will not always chide, neither keepeth He His anger forever, because He delighteth in mercy. -Micah 7:18-

If our Father's anger is temporary, how can it be endless? If it endure but a moment, how can it last forever in even a solitary instance or life? How can one teach that God's anger towards the vast mass of His broken creation last's forever, and that His mercy will not endure forever? 

What You Must Ignore To Be A Believer In Eternal Punishment:

God Is Love

- you must believe God is only "love" at some times, but at other times He is only wrath and anger, but no love.

God's Mercy Endures Forever

- you must believe that at some point God's mercy ceases for some people and He never shows mercy again for all eternity.

God Will Not Retain His Anger Forever

- you must believe that God will retain His anger for all of eternity.

God Wills All Men To Be Saved

- you must believe that God's will is not sovereign and won't be done in regards to the salvation of men.

God Keeps No Record Of Wrongs

- you must believe that God will keep a record of wrongs for all eternity.

God Loves His Enemies

- you must believe that God will not love His enemies but will instead torment them for all eternity even though He commands US to love OUR enemies in order to be like Him.

Jesus Is The Saviour Of The World

- you must believe that Jesus is only the Saviour of some people.

If Jesus Is Lifted Up He Will Draw/ Drag Off/ Impel All Men To Himself

- you must believe that Jesus will only drag SOME men to Himself, but not all.

God Is Not Willing That Any Should Perish

- you must believe that God's will is not sovereign and some will perish because their will can override God's will....making them sovereign over God in matters eternal

Jesus Came To Seek & To Save That Which Was Lost

- you must believe that He came, went seeking and then still lost many/ most.....but did not save all that was lost, thereby failing in His mission to save that which was lost.




Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

FineLinen

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His Great Love

Quote"The Lord appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee" or, as the margin gives the alternative rendering, "therefore have I continued lovingkindness unto thee" (Jer. 31:3).

That is one of the most astounding statements that has ever been made. To verify that, to realize something of that fact, you need to read all that leads up to it and that follows afterward. That is to say, you need to read the prophecies of Jeremiah throughout, and then to add to them some of the prophecies of other prophets. For the work of the prophet was very largely to point out how far, how terribly and tragically far, those being addressed had gone from God's mind, God's thought, God's will, God's way, and in what a terrible state of hardness of heart and rebellion - and worse than that - they were toward God. All that - and it is a terrible and dark story - gathers round this statement. "I have loved thee." At the time when they were in the very worst condition that ever they had been or would be in spiritually and morally, it was then He said "I have loved thee with an everlasting love." Viewed in its setting, you must agree it is one of the most amazing statements ever made.

"His great love wherewith he loved us." We are baffled and almost rendered silent when we try to fathom and comprehend the word "grace" in reference to the love of God. How great is God's love? Were we to spend our lives trying, we could never utter its depth or content. Yet here is a statement, and we have to do something about it. We have to approach it, to try to grasp something, be it very small, of this incomprehensible love of God, the mystery of it. So I shall adopt the very simplest method of trying to get into this word, just breaking up the statement into its component words.


Chapter 1 - The Creation Motivated by the Love of God


Chapter 2 - God's Beloved


Chapter 3 - Love Serving


Chapter 4 - The Challenge of Love


Chapter 5 - God's Everlasting, Unchanging Love


Chapter 6 - Love the Supreme Test of the Church


Chapter 7 - The Issues of Love


Chapter 8 - "Lovest Thou Me?"



HERE

Quote'I have loved thee with an everlasting love.' You can never translate that word "everlasting" into English. It simply means that you have got into the spaceless, boundless realm, you have fallen out of time to where time is no more. You have gone out into that mysterious something where nothing can be taken hold of as tangible, it is all beyond you, beyond your grasp, beyond your calculation, beyond your power to cope with it and bring it into some kind of dimensions. That is the word: beyond you, beyond your time, beyond your world, beyond all your ways of thinking and working. 'I have loved thee with an everlasting, timeless, spaceless love.' Did you notice the alternative marginal reading to the phrase? 'Jehovah appeared of old unto me'? It is, 'from afar appeared unto me' - outside of our world altogether. He says, 'I have loved you with a love altogether outside your dimensions of time and space.'

Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

Cardinal

 :cloud9: It's just beyond comprehension alright......Good post  :thumbsup:
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

FineLinen

Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

SQ

I am an animal person love dogs and cats both, Heavenly Dog was so inspiring.  :cloud9:

martincisneros

Yeah, it would be a good idea for me to reread Charlie's stuff, or see if there's anything that I hadn't read.  I'm aware of maybe half a dozen more things that should be on that website.  If I can remember enough of the gist, I'll pick on him about whether he's ever finished those and sent them to Gary Sigler to post on that site.  Might be able to find the emails where he was working on stuff to forward on to him and ask him if he's going to do any more with that, or if I could post them here "as is."

preistsplace

Yeah God never gives up. If he did he would either not be Almighty or his will would not be sovereign.Hmmm... If he were to give up it would be like he was saying that he had made a mistake,and realized that he could not suceed.
Of course there are those who say that he can only save us if we let him.
Of course the have then concluded that God is not Almighty, that Gods will is dependent on my will.
Of course God is Almighty and His Will is Sovreign!

Tim B

It's interesting to think of this: in 1 Cor. 15 it says that Love (aka God) IS patient. Yet, we seem to think that God's patience runs out after man dies. But if Love IS patient, then if it were to run out, then Love would cease to be, and in turn, God would cease to exist! Sounds like a predicament to me  :laughing7:

Either God A) loses his patience and casts you out of his presence forever and so ceases to exist himself, or B) God saves you because he is ALWAYS patient.  :bigGrin: