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Title: Jesus's language?
Post by: IceDash on February 08, 2009, 04:44:05 PM
What language Jesus used when he quote one of the old testament in the bible? I noticed that some do not match from old testament that Jesus used in new testament like part Isaish. I can't remember the verse.
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: WhiteWings on February 08, 2009, 04:50:33 PM
Hi Ice,

Feeling frosty today?  :laughing7:

Maybe those thread answers your question.... (spoiler there are none)
http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/index.php?topic=3270.0
http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/index.php?topic=3320.0
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: IceDash on February 08, 2009, 04:55:17 PM
so what bible you used the most? I used An american tranlation by William F. Beck
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: sven on February 08, 2009, 05:10:47 PM
maybe the people these days both spoke Greek and Aramaic

but as far as i know LXX and NT fit better together than NT and hebrew masoretic text
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: WhiteWings on February 08, 2009, 05:14:11 PM
I prefer the more literal ones.
Youngs Literal Translation.
Rotherham

And for the 'contradictions' I use Brentons English LXX

All in electronic format. (free)

But better wait for an answer from someone with a solit Bible background.


In case you ever wondered what the Hebrew and Greek texts look like....
Free program.
http://www.scripture4all.org/
Program: http://www.scripture4all.org/download/download_ISA20.php
ebooks:
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm

A bit hard to read. But I think it makes you respect the translators...
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: claypot on February 08, 2009, 07:55:21 PM
Quote from: IceDash on February 08, 2009, 04:44:05 PM
What language Jesus used when he quote one of the old testament in the bible? I noticed that some do not match from old testament that Jesus used in new testament like part Isaish. I can't remember the verse.

ID, I am the first to admit that I know very little on an infinite number of issues BUT I think I actually know the exact language Jesus used in every single word He spoke. He spoke fluant Spiritualese. This is the language of God IMO. Every word written in the old testament perfectly works with each word of the new when viewed through spiritual eyes and heard with spiritual ears.

cp
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: WhiteWings on February 08, 2009, 08:03:38 PM
Claypot,

Is your Bible invisible for non-believers?  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: claypot on February 08, 2009, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on February 08, 2009, 08:03:38 PM
Claypot,

Is your Bible invisible for non-believers?  :laughing7:

It is only for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, you wise quacker!

cp
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: IceDash on February 08, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
why it called "LXX"

what about sterigust, the oldest greek language?
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: claypot on February 08, 2009, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: IceDash on February 08, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
why it called "LXX"

what about sterigust, the oldest greek language?

I'm serious ID. No matter what human language you read God's words in you will not get the spirit of the message unless graced with spiritual eyes like I hope to get some day! Truely, if a person has spiritual eyes then you could read Snow White and clearly hear God talking.

cp
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: WhiteWings on February 08, 2009, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: IceDash on February 08, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
why it called "LXX"

what about sterigust, the oldest greek language?

QuoteThe Septuagint was the first translation made of the Hebrew Old Testament into Greek.  What I did not know was that it often reads differently from the Masoretic texts, the Old Testament texts that became standardized for the Jews after A.D. 70., and that is the text most of us have in our bibles today.

LXX is the Roman number for 70. The number of translators.



Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: IceDash on February 08, 2009, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: claypot on February 08, 2009, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: IceDash on February 08, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
why it called "LXX"

what about sterigust, the oldest greek language?

I'm serious ID. No matter what human language you read God's words in you will not get the spirit of the message unless graced with spiritual eyes like I hope to get some day! Truely, if a person has spiritual eyes then you could read Snow White and clearly hear God talking.

cp

I know that but the tranlation of all bible are not the same and they get very confusing, because most of my friends in church not to trust the internet.
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: WhiteWings on February 08, 2009, 10:13:32 PM
Quotemost of my friends in church not to trust the internet.

http://truthinheart.com/Zondervan.htm

Quote'Largest' Christian Publisher Zondervan, is a Division of HarperCollins, which Publishes the Satanic Bible.
Plus other not so Christian stuff like porn mags.

Yep, it's best to stick with the printed KJV  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Jesus's language?
Post by: IceDash on February 08, 2009, 10:15:04 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on February 08, 2009, 10:13:32 PM
http://truthinheart.com/Zondervan.htm

Quote'Largest' Christian Publisher Zondervan, is a Division of HarperCollins, which Publishes the Satanic Bible.
Plus other not so Christian stuff like porn mags.

Yep, it's best to stick with the print KJV  :laughing7:

but it heavy on latin, not greek