how in the world can UR/CU be denied or missed!

[marie glen]

We know how it's missed.. "the god of this world.. blinds the minds.." 2 Cor.4:4, BUT! It says "of all unbelievers".

But Jesus (as witnessed to by John, in John 17) spells it out pretty conclusively (imo)! I'm sure this has been brought up before! But reading it today.. It seems very strange it goes so missed! "Teachings"! Are like, wow, so hard to pierce through.. But! His sWord of Truth WILL do it! All will "speak one language"! :banana:

1 When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son may glorify You. 2 For You granted Him authority over ALL humanity, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. 3 Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent....
:doh: :mshock: :faint:

[rosered]

  Amen !!   those  WORDS OF THE LORD JESUS ,  sure covers everyone  sister Marie!!   :HeartThrob:

[rosered]

I believe that GOD LOVES  everyone

  He  is teaching us to do the same
  we are to love that person trapped in evil  and ruling its heart

  we are to hate the evil not the person  , begin to hate the evil in ourselves  first and  be healed so we can become   of use to Gods glory though Jesus Christ our shining example  sent from above . 

GOD knows how to take the Sword of truth and  rightly divide

Romans 6 Dead to Sin, Alive to God

...12Therefore do not let sin control your mortal body so that you obey its desires.

13Do not present the parts of your body to sin as instruments of wickedness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and present the parts of your body to Him as instruments of righteousness.

14For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace....

  15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law, but under grace? Certainly not!...

I believe the overcomers in Christ are to be the shining  example  of Gods love and do good    and pray for the Spirit of the Holy Father to plant a seed of hope  in the hearts of those captive to sin , lest we also fall back into temptation of sin and pride 
over and over again , never learn  the truth  and   truth setting us free to do Gods desire and that is the  salvation message ...

Carry One Another's Burdens
1Brothers, if someone is caught in a trespass, you who are spiritual should restore him with a spirit of gentleness.

But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. 2Carry one another's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ....

Psalm 141:5
Let the righteous man strike me; let his rebuke be an act of loving devotion. It is oil for my head; let me not refuse it. For my prayer is ever against the deeds of the wicked.

Matthew 18:15
If your brother sins against you, go and confront him privately. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over.

1 Corinthians 2:15
The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone's judgment.

1 Corinthians 3:1
Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual, but as worldly--as infants in Christ.

1 Corinthians 4:21
Which do you prefer? Shall I come to you with a rod, or in love and with a gentle spirit?

2 Corinthians 2:7
So instead, you ought to forgive and comfort him, so that he will not be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow.
  Holy spirit  fruit / doing  by faith working in us 
Galatians 6:18
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers. Amen.

1 Thessalonians 4:1
Finally, brothers, we ask and encourage you in the Lord Jesus to live in a way that is pleasing to God, as you have received from us. This is how you already live, so you should do so all the more.

2 Thessalonians 3:15
Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.

2 Timothy 2:25
He must gently reprove those who oppose him, in the hope that God may grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth.

Hebrews 12:13
Make straight paths for your feet, so that the lame may not be debilitated, but rather healed.

James 5:19
My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back,  20  consider this:

Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and cover over a multitude of sins....

  :dsunny: :HeartThrob: :2c:

[darryl]

the first step is to  question everlasting punishment in hell.....e.g. the Greek word mistranslated as 'eternal', = 'aionios' doesn't actually mean 'eternal' ...understanding this fact was the first step in my freedom from this ECT doctrine that slanders God. BTW, how can there be 'day or night' in hell ( book of Revelation)...is there a sun in hell to light the day ?.....does the sun in hell go down so there is night ?....it doesnt make sense. The first step is to question. God DOES give the answers if we truly seek the Truth. :banana:

[marie glen]

Amen! I thought it was real good too, to think that worse case scenario, if humans in an afterlife lake of fire.. or 'punishment' - it would be for a duration.. definitely not that horrible boogie man 'forever'!
:Peace2:

...these days (P.S.) I am seriously, because of where in Rev. LOF is mentioned, thinking it may be the split atom(s) and whatever they have developed from it since.. And I think of 2 Pet.3:10-13 as being 2 events and bookends of our Lord's long second advent.. :dontknow: :Chinscratch:

[sheila]

 :2c: Secretsof Enoch ch65;v6-8..helps clear up a lot of confusion I feel.