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Wy were the ancient Hebrews, 'the chosen people"?

Started by Taffy, January 08, 2011, 12:27:57 AM

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Molly

Quote from: Micahhard for me to understand even phantom how you all with all your intellegence and insight preceive that natural Israel today is the chosen people, or that the Hebrews are the chosen people, and attempt to prove it.

Your question is about ancient Israel.

And, what Taffy said. :thumbsup:

jabcat

Apostle Paul said natural Israel has been set aside for a season, and will be provoked to jealousy - until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled, then all Israel will be saved.   As I understand, part of the plan of whole reconciliation.   :thumbsup:
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Taffy

Quote from: jabcat on January 08, 2011, 10:49:57 PM
Apostle Paul said natural Israel has been set aside for a season, and will be provoked to jealousy - until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled, then all Israel will be saved.   As I understand, part of the plan of whole reconciliation.   :thumbsup:
:icon_flower:Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
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thinktank

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Yes. I think the reason why God saves Israel and mentions their nation is because he promised he would and that's the only reason, for His own glory and faithfullness. Because in terms of faithfullness Israel has failed her duty and should according to old testment verses be destroyed or dispersed, but according to Gods mercy and promises, he brings them back again to their land, first the house of Judah northern kingdom (already fullfilled , 1948-1958, !guess), then the other remaining houses, called the house of Israel, the southern kingdom during the time of Solomon (Yet future).

It is intersting to know who are the other tribe house of Israel since they have lost their identity and do not know who they are in the natural, but they are supposed to eventually return to the land that was given to Abraham. This is a tough prophecy to work out, as to the timing of it, but I think that  it could happen during the 1000 year peace, after Christ returns, rather than before he returns, because one thing that Christ does at his return is destroy many armies of the son of perdition
Revelation 19:19
And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

, and this destruction could pave the way to open up the promised land, so that there is room for natural Israel to return to the lands of Abraham.

Again all of this is nothing to do with salvation (in a sense, but not whole), but more to do with Gods promises he made to the old testament prophets to bring the seed of Abraham into the promised land.


Cardinal

 :cloud9: Yet did you notice the part in there about Him restoring Sodom and Gomorrah? Natural Israel, the Jewish bloodline is to be restored as well. They are the tree the Christians were grafted onto. Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor