Wrong one?

[Quaesitor]

I was thinking about the fall.

The image I had was this one.

Let's say that a man control all of water. He bottles it in plastic bottles which can't be recycled in any way. Now every one who needs water will have to buy those bottles which when empty are thrown and pollute the earth.

Who is guilty of polluting?

The one throwing the bottle sure is polluting but he doesn't have the choice in any way except than to not drink and die.
The one prodcuing the bottles is guilty of polluting, even if he drinks by the source and never throw a single bottle.

Now, why didn't Adam point at God when God told him if he had eat from the tree?

God put the tree in the garden, made it that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom.
He also desired the serpent to be there.
Why didn't Adam or Eve accuse God of all of it?

[Molly]

They did. :laughing7:


12 The man said, "The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it."

--Gen 3

[thinktank]

And the woman blamed the serpent.

If you think about it women still do this today.

"It was that darn snake who did it",

"who" said wifes friend

err, my husband

:icon_jokercolor:

[anti_nietzsche]

I tend to believe this genesis account didn't happen literally. Instead it desribes a period of man's history when he knew innocence and a life that was really good and in all things like God wanted it. Then came the time of moving to another level.

Think of how we live now. We are supposed to not sin. But if we sin just once God doesn't throw us out immediately. Likewise I don't think the eating of the tree was just one particular sin which made God hate the whole human race and drive us away from our home. Instead it was a sin that the WHOLE of mankind engaged in. The birth of thinking of good and evil, instead of referring ourselves back to God and His ways. Leaving faith behind, leaving authentic love behind. It's effect was that the whole world changed, that death came and that nature became different within some time.

If you see it like that you might understand God's wrath here. It was something which was in a way comparable to a negative enlightenment, it changed us from little children into tyrant gods. It was profound. It was not just something little. And the blame is really on us .. God was in the garden with us every day, and taught us all things. And we just wanted to reason on our own. Based on nothing but "that delicious fruit". That's what we do now still, we hope for a kind of ecstacy when we think on our own. We believe it enlarges us, we think with lust. We want that fruit ... but it was God's, not ours.