attacks from demons and devils

[anti_nietzsche]

Have you ever been personally assaulted by a devil? If so, how did you counter it? Are there any ways by which UR changes the way you act when dealing with such forces?

[WhiteWings]

I never had a spiritual encounter. Not positive and not negative. Or I'm just not aware of it.
Maybe you should define "assulted".
Does it mean visions of demons?
Or for example you think a demon caused a car accident?

[Nathan]

Not to sound cold, I know it's an intriguing subject to many, and even though I do have a much different take on the subject, regardless of what my perception of them are to be, the underlying truth is, we have way more power and authority over them than we give ourselves credit for.  If we put ALL of our energy into the productive things of the kingdom, the adversarial things will have no influence on us at all.

There's a passage that also eludes to this . . .
Luke 10
  18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.  19Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.  20Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

[micah7:9]

Not to sound cold, I know it's an intriguing subject to many, and even though I do have a much different take on the subject, regardless of what my perception of them are to be, the underlying truth is, we have way more power and authority over them than we give ourselves credit for.  If we put ALL of our energy into the productive things of the kingdom, the adversarial things will have no influence on us at all.

There's a passage that also eludes to this . . .
Luke 10
  18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.  19Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.  20Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

In the words of Rocky Balboa "ABSOLUTLY!"

[Paul Hazelwood]

Have you ever been personally assaulted by a devil? If so, how did you counter it? Are there any ways by which UR changes the way you act when dealing with such forces?

Yes.   There was a time when I was assaulted with evil images of hurting someone else.   I countered it by realizing I had a bad spirit towards these people and to realize how wrong that was and that those feelings are what allowed this to happen to me in the first place.

I do not think UR changes that much for me, this happened prior to me believing that God will save all.

[Nathan]

as for me, I've mentioned this in the past, but I've been on both sides of this . . .I've been in the delivering side as well as the "needing deliverance" side.  And since coming into not just UR but into the kingdom perspectives . . .In all the instances I've been personally a part of, they all could be explained by what I guess I'd call "subconscious manipulation".  I don't want to be one that would say demons simply don't exist at all because I'm just not confident enough to stand in that place because Scriptures are pretty open about them.

But for me, it's just that once you cross over into the spiritual threshold of life, there's a resistance in me now to desire to go back to the literal emphasis on things.  Mainly because we're called to leave the flesh and live in the spirit, and also, it's only in the spirit where the source of our dominion resides.  I can operate in the natural under the order of that dominion when the spiritual alignment is in it's proper order.  Which is to say, when I pursue the spirit, I'm empowered to overcome the power of the flesh.

[thinktank]

Think on his name Jesus and cry out help Jesus. His Hebrew name would also have way more power, knowing it though can be a challenge, beause Hebrew is a challenging language.

Praising God works well too.

I don't think UR helps a lot, but it does I think, help see God as completely victorious and there are no loopholes for demonic forces, that they are just there/exist by Gods permission.

[Nathan]

What???  Praying in Hebrew carries more power than my own native tongue?  Saying Jesus in Hebrew will get greater responses from the demonic world than if I used the name of Jesus in English???  You sure you want to build on that???

[thinktank]

There is more meaning behind each word in Hebrew. When you say YHVH, or YHSH, the name given to Moses, which is a tetragram of the fathers name, and Jesus came in His fathers name and came to reveal His father, which would include His name, ?I think that the priests in Jesus day made sure that the name of God is obscured, by using titles such as God and hiding the name of the father from the people, as Jesus said woe to the scribes and pharisses who hide the kingdom from the people. But I'm told the name of God is YaHuShuaH, I'm not quite fully understanding the ways of Hebrew yet, but I'm sure the devils know you speak of the creator eloihim. Words carry vibrations and the name of God in Hebrew would carry a greater vibration than a translated name, which unfortunate has not even been translated properly, I'm led to believe. I think that's why some priests have trouble casting out demons in His name because they are not using his true name.

Whether God speak s Hebrew is another matter, I would think that he would speak in a tongue far more advanced than what we are accustomed to, as the apostle Paul witnessed strange sounds in heaven, to wonderful to describe ( perhaps he was listening to an angel playing the electric guitar  :winkgrin:) But I know God can speak all the languages of the earth and heavens, but maybe he has a favourite one in earth and one in heaven.

[Molly]

Words carry vibrations

:thumbsup:
The power of his Holy Name!


12For we are not wrestling with [vibrating against] flesh and blood [contending only with physical opponents], but against the despotisms, against the powers, against [the master spirits who are] the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spirit forces of wickedness in the heavenly (supernatural) sphere.
--Eph 6

[Nathan]

While I do believe very much that words carry vibrations, I personally think that saying one language over another has a greater or less affect is a bit shaky at best.  Wouldn't this fall under "God is no respecter of persons"?  What difference does it make whether I know Hebrew or not?  I know the maker of all languages and now not only do I need to know the maker, but to me more effective, I need to know the language as well? 

Can't bring myself to accept that one.

[WhiteWings]

There is more meaning behind each word in Hebrew.

I agree. Often there are even hidden meanings in a paragraph. Maybe not really hidden for a Hebrew speaking person but all those gems simply get lost in translation. Usually those hidden words don't give info that isn't elsewhere in the Bible but at the very least it's very interesting. For me complexity points to divinity. But I can imaging that those hidden meanings can in some cases resolve a theological dispute.

[Nathan]

Don't doubt that . . .keeping in mind the Pharisees knew most about culture, languages and hidden meanings and they "still" couldn't identify Jesus for who he truly was.  Flesh and blood can't bring us into the revealing/illumination of the nature of Christ.

It's a lot like that game we have here in the states called "Mad Gab" where you can repeat a phrase over and over and over and consciously not realize what it is your mouth is saying.

[thinktank]

mad gab? You mean speaking in tongues  :grin:

[Cardinal]

There is more meaning behind each word in Hebrew.

I agree. Often there are even hidden meanings in a paragraph. Maybe not really hidden for a Hebrew speaking person but all those gems simply get lost in translation. Usually those hidden words don't give info that isn't elsewhere in the Bible but at the very least it's very interesting. For me complexity points to divinity. But I can imaging that those hidden meanings can in some cases resolve a theological dispute.

:thumbsup: