Isn't that the carpenter's son?

[Beloved Servant]

There will be the same disbelief this go-around!

[micah7:9]

Not by all my friend.

[Molly]

2But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

3And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

--Malachi 4

[Nathan]

It wasn't "just" disbelief.  Identifying him as a carpenter's son is an attempt to discredit him for his message.  He wasn't considered to be one "schooled" in religious matters so they were trying to just write him off as a bluecollar worker . . . some hick from the sticks. 

And I think you're right, it's the same approach "this go around" from those with eyes and can't see, ears that can't hear . . . they've become as effective as the idols they've erected and worshiped.

[onlytruth]

hey wait a minute...I'm a carpenters son...no really

[Molly]

Was Jesus's father an architect?
PTI Apr 4, 2010, 01.21am IST

LONDON: Jesus Christ was the son of a middle class architect and not a carpenter and an "incorrect" translation had led to this confusion, a biblical scholar has claimed.

According to Adam Bradford, rather than being born in a stable to a carpenter father, Jesus was actually the son of a successful, middle class and highly intellectual architect.

It's a somewhat different version of the greatest story ever told about Jesus's life, the Daily Mail reported.

In his new book, 'The Jesus Discovery', Bradford also claimed that between the ages of 12 and 30 — the so-called "missing years" of Jesus's life for which little is known — he was studying at religious schools and became the highest-ranking rabbi in Judea.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-04-04/uk/28114249_1_architect-middle-class-carpenter

[Nathan]

Interesting . .. I'd heard that the trip they took into Jerusalem when he was 12 was also related to the fact that it's at that age that boys with aspiritions to dedicate their lives to the church went to the priests and were "interviewed" essentially and the fact that Jesus was leaving with his parents was evidence that the religious leaders, all though they were astounded at his understanding of the Scriptures, rejected him to be a part of the temple priesthood.

One really doesn't know how much of these things can be taken as historically accurate.  Scripture doesn't give any indication other than as he grew physically, he grew spiritually as well.  I also find it interesting that there's no mention of Joseph after this.  Some believe he died while Jesus was young but again, there's no Scriptural evidence supporting any of it.

[eaglesway]

If we suffer with Him we will also be glorified with Him



The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.  For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.  For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.

[Molly]

If we suffer with Him we will also be glorified with Him



The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.  For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.  For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.

We are 'heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ.'

Somebody has to die before the will goes into effect.  This is God's will that we are heirs to--therefore--

we see that Christ both died to kick the will into effect and then became a benefieciary of the will with us.  It's all legal.  :grin:

[eaglesway]

Ha ha    Well said!  :thumbsup:

[eaglesway]

Perhaps death can be the unifying factor that knowledge can never be :o)