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God's Creative Original.......the beginning of God's Creation.

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Originally Posted by eutychus  
Yeshua, is Gods creative original, it is by and through Him all things have been created.

HE is the beginning of all Gods creation.


Come, my friends, and go with me,
Away back to eternity!
Back beyond the days of youth
Where everything that was, was truth.

Go back til within the past
You finally find the place, at last,
Where "the beginning" you can see
Of the immense eternity.

Go back til there's not a trace
Of anything but God and space:
God all around--below, above,
Unlimited in pow'r and love.

Away back there, removed from sight,
Where everything that was, was right.
Away back there, removed from sin,
Is where our story will begin.

"""unknown"""


BEFORE EONIAN TIMES"

Of that time "before the eons" the Scriptures are clear and explicit, speaking of "grace," "eonian life," and a "secret...for our glory"--all given to us in Christ Jesus "before eonian times" began their course. Paul, in writing to Timothy, makes known the fact:

"God, Who saves us and calls us with a holy calling, not in accord with our acts, but in accord with His own purpose and the grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before eonian times" (2 Tim.1:9).

In Titus, he speaks further relative to this same thought, of God's

"chosen ONE,...in expectation of eonian life, which God, Who does not lie, promises before eonian times" (Titus 1:2).

And again, when speaking to those among the Corinthian saints who were mature and able to bear it, he tells of

"God's wisdom in a secret, which has been concealed, which God designates before the eons for our glory, which not one of the chief men of this eon has known, for if they knew, they would not crucified the Lord of glory" (1 Cor.2:7,.

These Scriptures are concise and emphatic in revealing a time "before the eons," leaving no room for quibble unless it be with God and His Word. The "eons," or "ages," were not eternal in the past, but had a definite beginning.

God's Eonian Purpose
Chapter 3



GOD'S CREATIVE ORIGINAL

Having ascertained from the Scriptures that the one God, the Father, was the origin or source of all things, the next question that engages us, is God's creative original. In other words, What was the "original" or "beginning" of God's creation? So without theorizing or philosophizing after the manner of men, let us appeal to God's Word for the true light upon this subject. In the Unveiling (Revelation) of Jesus Christ, chapter 3, verse 14, it is written:

"Now this He is saying, Who is the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, and God's creative Original." The underlying original and a literal sublinear of the latter part of the verse, "God's creative Original," reads Hee archee tees ktiseoos tou Theou, THE ORIGINAL OF-THE CREATION OF-THE God. Five times in the Unveiling we are expressly told that Jesus Christ is "the Alpha," "the First," "the Origin," "the Beginning of the creation of the God" (Rev.1:8,18; 3:14; 21: 6; 22:13). And we want to press this fact on our readers, that nowhere else in all the sacred original writings do we find the definite article "the" used in connection with "beginning" except in these references which point exclusively to the Lord Jesus Christ. So, for the earnest seeker of truth, this should settle the question of "the Beginning of the creation of the God." The faithful and True Witness, Jesus christ, Himself, is "God's creative Original."

peace
euty  

Euty, I don't know when you posted this, just now saw it.
It is classic and certainly should answer questions of
every honest seeker .........our fellowship is with the
Father and the Son.........through Sprit given understanding. Like in Daniel,
there are answers given to our to doubts. There is ONE who dissolves
doubts. I realize it is here a bit and there a bit, but
every honest seeker should re read this ........


Thanks for bringing it here.

It stirs in me the words to a song of the Christ whose
"is" God's SON:

The throne room looks the same
As I ascend back from whence I came
And there's a scepther that was mine before I left there
And as I sit with all the sages
I was enthroned with before the ages
Most of all, my Father out of whom I came.


Shalom!!!!


 

chuckt

who's this euty fellow? sounds like a heretic  :happy3:

thanks for posting RED,

http://www.gtft.org/Library/loudy/GodsEonianPurpose/GodsEonianPurpose00.htm

Come, my friends, and go with me,
     Away back to eternity!
Go back beyond the days of youth
     Where everything that was, was truth.

Go back until within the past
     You fail to find the place, at last,
Where "the beginning" you can see
     Of the immense eternity.

Go back until there's not a trace
     Of anything but God and space:
God all around--below, above,
     Unlimited in pow'r and love.

Away back there, removed from sight,
     Where everything that was, was right.
Away back there, removed from sin,
     Is where our story will begin.


many blessings to all.

ps:

I LOVE THIS:

3. The One Truth hath many sides, and one seeth one side only, another seeth another, and some see more than others, according as it is given to them.


chuckt/euty

Cardinal

 :cloud9:  :thumbsup: Amen, yes He is, the Word that was Spirit/Christ, MADE flesh/Jesus. Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

WhiteWings

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

chuckt

Quote from: WhiteWings on August 10, 2009, 07:00:42 PM
Quote from: chuckt on August 10, 2009, 01:51:48 PM
who's this euty fellow? chuckt/euty
Are you Chakotay of Star Trek TNG? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Beltran  :winkgrin:



i am from the Demilitarized Zone  but NO i am NOT Chakotay, specially since i was born in 1963, not 2329  :bgdance:


may the force be with you.....er um sorry wrong movie  :happy3:

Redlettervoice

Quote from: chuckt on August 10, 2009, 01:51:48 PM
who's this euty fellow? sounds like a heretic  :happy3:

thanks for posting RED,

http://www.gtft.org/Library/loudy/GodsEonianPurpose/GodsEonianPurpose00.htm

Come, my friends, and go with me,
     Away back to eternity!
Go back beyond the days of youth
     Where everything that was, was truth.

Go back until within the past
     You find the place, that was,  at last,
Where "the beginning" you can see
     Of the immense eternity.

Go back until there's not a trace
     Of anything but God and space:
God all around--below, above,
     Unlimited in pow'r and love.

Away back there, removed from sight,
     Where everything that was, was right.
Away back there, removed from sin,
     Is where our story will begin.


many blessings to all.

ps:

I LOVE THIS:

3. The One Truth hath many sides, and one seeth one side only, another seeth another, and some see more than others, according as it is given to them.


chuckt/euty


Yeah, isn't that the truth? Who "is" this heritic.  Well, I didn't have the link
where it came from but I do now, will search that out. 
Chuck, I put it in several forums, hope that was alright.  It was just too good
not to share.  Some real good words there, I thought.  No one should be without figuring some things out after "that!" By/the/way, did you notice
I took that word "fail" out of that poem, was that a typo? Well, that's the poet
in ME! and since he was "unknown" I did it. ha

chuckt

Quote from: Redlettervoice on August 10, 2009, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: chuckt on August 10, 2009, 01:51:48 PM
who's this euty fellow? sounds like a heretic  :happy3:

thanks for posting RED,

http://www.gtft.org/Library/loudy/GodsEonianPurpose/GodsEonianPurpose00.htm

Come, my friends, and go with me,
     Away back to eternity!
Go back beyond the days of youth
     Where everything that was, was truth.

Go back until within the past
     You find the place, that was,  at last,
Where "the beginning" you can see
     Of the immense eternity.

Go back until there's not a trace
     Of anything but God and space:
God all around--below, above,
     Unlimited in pow'r and love.

Away back there, removed from sight,
     Where everything that was, was right.
Away back there, removed from sin,
     Is where our story will begin.


many blessings to all.

ps:

I LOVE THIS:

3. The One Truth hath many sides, and one seeth one side only, another seeth another, and some see more than others, according as it is given to them.


chuckt/euty


Yeah, isn't that the truth? Who "is" this heritic.  Well, I didn't have the link
where it came from but I do now, will search that out. 
Chuck, I put it in several forums, hope that was alright.  It was just too good
not to share.  Some real good words there, I thought.  No one should be without figuring some things out after "that!" By/the/way, did you notice
I took that word "fail" out of that poem, was that a typo? Well, that's the poet
in ME! and since he was "unknown" I did it. ha


OF course its alright!! AMEN AMEN.


God bless
euty