ghosts

[Nathan]

As for me Micah, what you've read from me is a result of what you just described.  I used to preach with a crow bar hanging off my pulpit, a visible reminder that before we can enter into the temple that Jesus raised up, we first need to yield to him and let him tear ours down.  The crow bar has since moved "from" my pulpit as I felt released to remove it from center-stage so to speak, but it is currently and perminently mounted on the wall off to the side . . a great conversation piece . . .not every church has a crowbar mounted to their wall. 

But like other things we've put on our walls, it's part of the archives of not just what God has brought us through, but what he's leading us into . . . the crowbar, the physical one, may be mounted to the wall, but I've found that there are still times when I need to whip out the inner one and do some demolition to areas in my understanding "prepare ye the way of the Lord . ." for him to continue to mature and nurture me to those higher and deeper places in him.

And the reason why you don't see me quoting Scripture as often as others is because again, "for me"  I see that God's word is written "in" us and we become living epistles as a result.  There are times I'll pull something up and post it, but for the most part, the Word I share is the one he wrote in my heart and I understand you may feel that the word "in" me doesn't line up with the Scriptures you percieve but truth be told, "if" I truly believed what I see was not God's nature, I wouldn't embrace it nor would I attempt to share it.  But I do believe what I see truly does line up with the Word, but it's the perspective, the positioning from which the Scriptures are read that makes it take on a completely different meaning.

I'm fully aware my take on things doesn't set well with some but we've all been given our lot to share with others so that we cause each other to stretch and grow  . .if we all had the same thinking on every thought, we'd bore ourselves to death.  At least "this" way, if we can keep it wrapped in love . . .it may be different packaging, but you'll never be bored at least. :bottlebump:

[jabcat]

-Eby would not die, Christ would come for him in rapture, and
-mankind would not have too much time left to choose between God's truth + eternal life, and Satan's lies + eternal hell.

Yet, to my understanding Richard Eby has passed away, and there will not be rapture anyway. Also, in his letter to Gary Amirault, Eby had written he believes in an eventual salvation of all mankind because of his experience.

How can Eby believe in eternal hell and UR?

I've been confused about that for a couple of years too.  From what I've read of his reported experience, first of all I've wondered about its accuracy, secondly, I didn't come away thinking he believed in UR.  Just clarifying in case someone doesn't know, Richard is J. Preston (strong UR teacher) Eby's brother.

[WhiteWings]

How can anyone being here for 2 years not know who Preston is.....
I didn't know Richard was Preston's brother.
But know I know that it becomes even more conflicting. Perhaps Richard spoke about UR without fully knowing what it is could be an argument. But not if his brother is Preston. Im sure of that :winkgrin:
In a way we all chose for the Son or the devil. But UR teaches Jesus snatches us out of the claws of th devil.
I didn't read the book. Maybe some who did can explain the contradiction. Maybe he was misquoted or changed believes. For example he was pro-UR before his NDE but changed when he saw hell in that NDE.

[Molly]

What book are we talking about? [Who's on first lol]

Cardinal was talking about Geo. Ritchie's book, Return from Tomorrow.

But she used the name eby by mistake.

Then it turns out there is a Richard Eby who is Preston's brother and who had a near death experience and wrote a book about it?

[micah7:9]

It was Just a Thought Micah- ALas if its to your likng or not- it will continue to  be spoken about while certain members on this Board remain at Tent :icon_flower:

What you wish to do about that is entirely upto you :dontknow:

This is LAST ill say on This Micah- youll not get a FIGHT from me-irrespective how many posts you make in Protest  :HeartThrob:

Blessings

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Please excuse me

[Taffy]

It was Just a Thought Micah- ALas if its to your likng or not- it will continue to  be spoken about while certain members on this Board remain at Tent :icon_flower:

What you wish to do about that is entirely upto you :dontknow:

This is LAST ill say on This Micah- youll not get a FIGHT from me-irrespective how many posts you make in Protest  :HeartThrob:

Blessings

:icon_flower:

Please excuse me

:icon_flower:

Theres surely nothing to excuse Micah  :HeartThrob:

Blessings :icon_flower:

[Taffy]

:cloud9: A man named Dr. Eby [edit- George Ritchie] published a book about his death experience. He was an athiest, I believe, died from pneumonia at 19, the day before he was to be sent by the army to study medicine. Anyway, he said he was flying over the earth by just taking thought to go somewhere, and he saw lights down below. He went into a small town, into a bar (the only thing lit up at that hour) and saw people in there drinking and smoking.

He was then startled to notice that next to someone drinking was someone else who grabbed for the drink but his hand went right thru it, after which the person let out a gut-wrenching howl. He saw the same thing with smokers. It was then he realized, that the dead were trying to take what they had desired in their lifetimes, from the living who were still doing it.

I petitioned the Lord for 4 months after my mother died, to show me the truth of what happens when we die. This book lined up with what He showed me. The "cave" many near death experience people describe, is their own stony heart that has deceived them and trapped them in sins of the flesh. The heart is deceitful above all else, and so we are told to guard our HEART with all diligence for out of it, come the issues of life.

Sin is weighty, it weighs us down, His burden is light (and light has no weight). The soul ladened down with sins, descends, the spirit ascends (the spirit returns back to the One who sent it), a "divorce" occurs between soul and spirit that is now evident, no longer veiled and hidden by the flesh. This divorce took place in the garden, the flesh covered up our awareness of it.

The meaning of the smoke ascending from the altar is that the soul (visible from the burning of the fire) ascends with the spirit, brought back into union, when we make of ourselves a LIVING sacrifice. Smoke in essence is particles of dust carried on the winds, no different than clouds. Dust is what makes them visible, the more dust, the darker the cloud. He comes in the clouds, we are to meet Him in the air (as ASCENDED dust = cloud of smoke from the altar).  :2c:

:icon_flower:MISSED THIS ONE--- praise the LORD Card- :icon_flower:

i was discussion today about the stoney heart-- awesome when you see a Post which witnessess it

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Yes, don't you love it when that happens?  :thumbsup: